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The Road to Accountable AI

Kevin Werbach
Artificial Intelligence
AI Governance
Generative AI
AI Ethics
Responsible AI
Data Privacy
EU AI Act
Accountable AI
Machine Learning
AI Regulation
AI Principles
AI Safety
Trustworthy AI
Data Science
Sony
Bias In AI
AI Companions
Deepfakes
AI Accountability
Technology Policy

Artificial intelligence is changing business, and the world. How can you navigate through the hype to understand AI's true potential, and the ways it can be implemented effectively, responsibly, and safely? Wharton Professor and Chair of Legal Studies and Business Ethics Kevin Werbach has analyzed emerging technologies for thirty years, and created one of the first business school course on legal ... more

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Munmun De Choudhury
Professor at Georgia Tech researching digital technology and mental health
Georgia Institute of Technology
Episode: Munmun De Choudhury (Georgia Tech): Conversational AI and Mental Health
Emre Kazim
Co-founder and CEO of Holistic AI
Holistic AI
Episode: Emre Kazim (Holistic AI): Why AI Governance is Life Cybersecurity
Rumman Chowdhury
CEO and founder-focused leader in responsible AI, co-founder of Humane Intelligence
Humane Intelligence (Public Benefit Corporation); former Director of ML Ethics at Twitter
Episode: Rumman Chowdhury (Humane Intelligence): The Need for Discernment
Var Shankar
Executive Director of the Council on AI Governance; former leader at Responsible AI Institute and Enzai; AI governance expert
Council on AI Governance
Episode: Var Shankar: AI Governance for Smaller Organizations
Katie Fowler
Director of Responsible Business at the Thomson Reuters Foundation
Thomson Reuters Foundation
Episode: Katie Fowler (Thomson Reuters Foundation): How 3,000 Companies Approach AI Governance
Henry Ajder
expert on deepfakes and synthetic media
Latent Space Advisory
Episode: Henry Ajder, Latent Space Advisory: Deepfakes and the Crisis of Digital Trust
Phil Dawson
Head of AI Policy and Partnerships at Armilla AI
Armilla AI
Episode: Phil Dawson, Armilla AI: Insurance for AI Risks
Walter Haydock
Founder of StackAware, AI risk management and governance expert
StackAware
Episode: Walter Haydock, StackAware: In Search Of AI Governance Certification
Richa Kaul
CEO and founder of Compliance with a Y, an AI-first governance, risk and compliance platform for enterprises
Compliance with a Y
Episode: Richa Kaul, Complyance: Asking the Right Questions

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Kevin Werbach
Host of the show, Professor of Legal Studies and Business Ethics at Wharton

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  • Enjoy the learning

    Form this podcast, I have gained a nuanced understanding of opportunities and ethical considerations when companies implement AI.

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Thoughtful and clearly explains complex governance topics.
High-quality guests with deep domain expertise.
Practical takeaways for building accountable AI programs.

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Rumman Chowdhury (Humane Intelligence): The Need for Discernment
Q: What are the practical steps for enterprises to balance governance with the need to deploy AI at scale?
Adopt modular tooling, focus on context-rich evaluation, and build governance that scales with hundreds of AI systems, while ensuring liability and third-party procurement considerations are addressed.
Rumman Chowdhury (Humane Intelligence): The Need for Discernment
Q: Just in general, how do you see the environment that we're in right now in terms AI regulation and accountability?
The environment is a push-pull with sensible regulations and bodies being formed, plus ongoing debates about how to implement audits and standards in a scalable way.
Katie Fowler (Thomson Reuters Foundation): How 3,000 Companies Approach AI Governance
Q: What role do investors play in incentivizing responsible AI practice based on your findings?
Investors are a crucial signaling and potential pressure point; transparency about governance acts as a proxy for risk management. The data could feed into materiality assessments or responsible AI indices, enabling investors to reward companies that demonstrate robust governance and real workforce preparedness.
Katie Fowler (Thomson Reuters Foundation): How 3,000 Companies Approach AI Governance
Q: How did you ensure the data's reliability when using AI to process disclosures?
We used publicly available disclosures, applied precise prompts to identify relevant information, and most importantly maintained heavy human oversight to link outputs back to exact source text and guard against misinterpretation. This combination allowed scale while preserving traceability and accuracy.
Katie Fowler (Thomson Reuters Foundation): How 3,000 Companies Approach AI Governance
Q: The governance data comes from a large, publicly disclosed dataset; what are the top big takeaways about how companies are actually approaching AI governance?
There is a governance gap between what companies say in strategy and what they implement operationally. Many have AI strategies but very few have formal governance frameworks, and there is widespread reliance on outside regulatory models like the EU AI Act to guide internal practices. There is also a regional variation, with Europe showing more safeguards for workers and more formal reporting channels than other regions.

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