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The Two Matts

The New World
Donald Trump
Keir Starmer
Brexit
Labour Party
Nigel Farage
Gaza
Andy Burnham
Artificial Intelligence
Iran
The New World
Ukraine
Israel
European Union
UK Politics
BBC
Rachel Reeves
Climate Change
NATO
Jeffrey Epstein
Liverpool

Join The New World's Matt Kelly and Matt d'Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people.

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The Matts answer listener questions including: Is the Kelly Plan for an early election a non-starter? Is Richard Tice a secret Labour asset? How should we respond to the huge numbers of suicides in the UK each year? And is Wetherspoons right to ban s... more

The Matts discuss the government’s response to the severe heat this summer in England and Wales (sorry Scotland!)… and whether this year will be a turning point in the public’s perception of urgency around the changing climate. But first, they deal w... more

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The Matts answer listener questions in their regular Sunday morning episode, including the tragic death of Jason Arday, whether Nigel Farage has lost his touch, what Andy Burnham is trying to do on social media and whether the solar eclipse was all i... more

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The Matts remember an astonishing letter of 45 years ago which provides stark contrast with Andy Burnham’s politics of place. Also - how the Jason Arday saga has shamed not just one academic but an entire university… and much of the liberal establish... more

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Recent Guests

Lucy Reade
Staff writer, Touching Grass collaborator
The New World
Episode: Have you been Touching Grass? You should be
Mark in Slough
Listener who asks about Andy Burnham's vulnerabilities
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?
Tommy in Fleetwood
Caller asking how to improve the caliber of politicians
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?
Francine in Alderley Edge
Caller asking about BBC cuts
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?
Tinfoil Tim in Peckham
Caller with culture/UFOs interest and alien question
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?
Misan Harriman
Artist and activist, chair of the Southbank Centre
Southbank Centre
Episode: SPECIAL with Misan Harriman: Under attack from the UK’s right wing press
Phil Tinline
Author of The Ghosts of Iron Mountain
Author, The Ghosts of Iron Mountain
Episode: Special: Exploring the Ghosts of Iron Mountain with Phil Tinline
John Kampfner
Author of Braver New World; discusses global case studies in governance and democracy
Episode: Is a brave new world possible? With John Kampfner
Alan Rusbridger
Editor-at-large at The New World; lead journalist on investigation into GB News' regulatory breaches
The New World
Episode: Inside the GB News scandal - with Alan Rusbridger

Hosts

Matt Kelly
Co-host with strong policy and political analysis, often driving the conversation with brisk, direct takes.
Matt d'Ancona
Co-host known for thoughtful, sometimes provocative political commentary and culture-focused observations.

Reviews

4.2 out of 5 stars from 927 ratings
  • Clear, thoughtful and funny.

    My favourite dissection of the news by two friendly and knowledgeable blokes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Vendosian
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Disappointing argument about Artemis

    I'll take the optimism right now over cynicism and pessimism. I think its more healthy. Generally a worthwhile listen but sometimes seems badly informed. The Artemis episode was like listening to a bad prolonged argument with my other half and a lots of statements about the programme were plain wrong. I'm unsubscribing for a period

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Adrian1423
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Decent podcast…terrible audio

    Lively discussion but something has changed of late and the sound quality is terrible. Matt d’Ancona sounds muffled and barely audible. Can you fix this asap?

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    uncletupelo
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Worth a listen

    If only to know how highly informed and educated people end up in the cul-de-sac of confusion searching for meaning and clarity. Unintentionally amusing.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    ❤️Radio4Comedy
    Netherlands6 months ago
  • D’Ancona Drivel

    The most oppressed muddled thinking I have ever heard.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    ❤️Radio4Comedy
    Netherlands6 months ago

Listeners Say

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Engaging, witty, and informative debates with strong host personalities.
Listeners appreciate thoughtful takes on media, politics, and culture, with occasional controversial stances.
Guests and episodes with deep policy analysis are highly valued by the audience.
Audio quality and interruptions are frequently cited as a shortcoming by some listeners.

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#38
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#94
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#134
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#168
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#231
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#23
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The Two Matts Q&A: Why tell ourselves lies about prison time? And what do we miss about the 70s?
Q: What do you miss from the 1970s, and what would you bring back to the present?
One host wants local, community-focused printed newspapers delivered door-to-door to rebuild community cohesion and local democracy, while the other longs for periods of digital detachment (like Sabbatarianism) to regain personal space and isolation when needed.
The Two Matts Q&A: Why tell ourselves lies about prison time? And what do we miss about the 70s?
Q: Should prisoners be released early in any circumstances, or should sentencing be honest about actual time served?
They argue for clearer, more transparent sentencing; the distrust arises when headlines say a person is sentenced to 25 years but they will serve far less due to remission. They compare to honest sentencing models in the US where time served matches the sentence, cautioning about incentives for good behavior and the practical limits of prison capacity.
The Two Matts Q&A: Why tell ourselves lies about prison time? And what do we miss about the 70s?
Q: Has Burnham made a mistake in sacking so many loyalists and appointing rebels?
The hosts suggest Burnham is aiming to assemble a capable team aligned with his program, not simply rewarding loyalty; the emphasis is on ability to execute and the belief that those chosen can deliver results, with some caveats about early appointments and balancing experience.
The Two Matts Q&A: Will Self on football and audiobook recommendations
Q: Any final thoughts on how Burnham should communicate with the nation?
The hosts suggest an immediate, visible outreach strategy—meeting people directly, using media to reflect real-country issues, and presenting a clear, aggressive, but collaborative mandate against reform.
The Two Matts Q&A: Will Self on football and audiobook recommendations
Q: Do audio books count as reading, and what are some recommendations?
They agree audiobooks are a different medium but can complement reading; recommendations include Lincoln in the Bardo and Bodies by Ian Wynwood, with broader reflections on IP and AI voice licensing in the industry.

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Two sharp political commentators co-host a weekly, irreverent yet thoughtful discussion that blends UK politics, media scrutiny, and cultural commentary with listener Q&As and occasional guests. Across recent episodes they bounce between policy debates (care, public funding, governance), international events, and media trust, all delivered with brisk banter and a willingness to rile both audiences and opponents. Noteworthy are their incisive takes, strong personalities, and a habit of weaving pop culture into policy conversations, making it likely to appeal to listeners who enjoy lively, well-informed debates with a human, sometimes provocative edge.

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2. Mark in Slough
3. Tommy in Fleetwood
4. Francine in Alderley Edge
5. Tinfoil Tim in Peckham
6. Misan Harriman
7. Phil Tinline
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