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The Two Matts

The New World
Keir Starmer
Donald Trump
Brexit
Labour Party
Nigel Farage
Andy Burnham
Gaza
The New World
Artificial Intelligence
Iran
Ukraine
BBC
Rachel Reeves
Israel
UK Politics
Climate Change
European Union
Jeffrey Epstein
NATO
United Kingdom

Join The New World's Matt Kelly and Matt d'Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people.

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The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode including: is welfare out of control? Is Andy Burnham really setting us up for a quick return to Europe? Has the Israeli election improved chances of a two-state so... more

The Matts argue their case for why the Budget was either a) a dismal failure to seize an opportunity for radical change in Britain or b) breathing space for a government with bigger swings to come. And they examine Andy Burnham's stunning proposal to... more

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The Matts answer listeners' questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including: should John Healey raise capital gains tax in the Budget? Why are the Lib Dems plotting against Ed Davey? Why did BBC Three and Radio 4 Extra exist in... more

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The Matts consider the violent protests sweeping the continent and try to understand where it is coming from and what it signifies. Could they spread here? What can progressive governments do to stop them? Is Andy Burnham's approach any different to ... more

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Recent Guests

Alastair Campbell
Editor-at-large of The New World magazine; author
The New World
Episode: Is AI really coming to eat us all... and how do we stop it?
Mishal Husain
Journalist and broadcaster; host of Mishal Husain podcast
Bloomberg (former BBC)
Episode: Is AI really coming to eat us all... and how do we stop it?
Emily Maitlis
Journalist joining The New World as a diary contributor
The New World magazine
Episode: An historic shift in UK foreign policy towards Israel. Now what?
Paul Mason
Contributing editor, columnist to The New World and author of Reds
The New World magazine
Episode: REDS - the best political book of the year? With Paul Mason
James Ball
Political editor, Touching Grass collaborator
The New World
Episode: Have you been Touching Grass? You should be
Lucy Reade
Staff writer, Touching Grass collaborator
The New World
Episode: Have you been Touching Grass? You should be
Tommy in Fleetwood
Caller asking how to improve the caliber of politicians
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?
Tinfoil Tim in Peckham
Caller with culture/UFOs interest and alien question
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?
Francine in Alderley Edge
Caller asking about BBC cuts
Listener
Episode: The Two Matts Q&A: Where is Burnham weak? And is America humiliated?

Hosts

Matt Kelly
Co-host with strong policy and political analysis, often driving the conversation with brisk, direct takes.
Matt d'Ancona
Co-host known for thoughtful, sometimes provocative political commentary and culture-focused observations.

Reviews

4.2 out of 5 stars from 937 ratings
  • Book Recommendations

    This is a great suggestion from today's episode and would love to see this included in the Podcast.

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    AMP243
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Hilarious

    Nippy Chorthner and Pammering Studge compete for the crown of Sanctimonious Sad Sack. Studge normally wins.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ❤️Radio4Comedy
    Netherlands2 months ago
  • Jason Arday

    Matt D may feel himself expert on the matter of Cambridge dons, but he clearly knows nothing about mental health. I’m sure worse things were said in the whole debate, but his repeated insistence that Arday was a “bad man” was certainly one of the most foolish. Whilst armchair psychology is a losing game, it should at the very least occurred to him that this was a man who at least MIGHT have some sort of issues going on based merely upon the fantastical nature of some of his claims. As someone wi... more

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    2
    Fullerton42
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Jason Arday

    “There’ll be a time and a place” … “it’s all very complex”… “there should be a full enquiry”… What sort of response is that? Matt D why not just show a little humanity and say “if the pile on by, among others, podcasters like me, in any way contributed to this then I am really sorry”. Read Matthew Syed in the Times for an example of how to do it.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Rob Levine
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Clear, thoughtful and funny.

    My favourite dissection of the news by two friendly and knowledgeable blokes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Vendosian
    United Kingdom3 months ago

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Engaging, witty, and informative debates with strong host personalities.
Listeners appreciate thoughtful takes on media, politics, and culture, with occasional controversial stances.
Guests and episodes with deep policy analysis are highly valued by the audience.
Audio quality and interruptions are frequently cited as a shortcoming by some listeners.

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#24
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#114
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#130
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#51
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#89
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The Two Matts Q&A: Iz it okay to be excited about Europe?
Q: Am I right to be as excited as I am about Andy Burnham's apparent open mindedness to a real change of direction on our relationship with Europe?
Both hosts are excited by Burnham's willingness to discuss freedom of movement, seeing it as a bold and concrete direction for closer European ties. They say it will take sustained negotiations and a clear route map.
The Two Matts Q&A: Iz it okay to be excited about Europe?
Q: Do the Matts agree that the amount of welfare these nations dole out is both economically and psychologically catastrophic?
They say welfare spending presents real affordability and social policy challenges, but argue that cutting it is difficult and that reform should reduce people's need for support. They also debate whether some claims and benefits have become excessive.
The Two Matts Q&A: Palestine Action lunacy and made up words
Q: Should any private citizen have the power to degrade a nation's ability to defend itself from aggression?
The hosts argue that Elon Musk's control over services including Starlink demonstrates the risks of private individuals holding power over national security and essential infrastructure. They call for Europe to develop its own systems and reduce dependence on dominant technology companies.
The Two Matts Q&A: Palestine Action lunacy and made up words
Q: What's more important, negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine or standing shoulder to shoulder with Zelensky?
Both hosts argue that supporting Zelensky can help secure a lasting negotiated end to the war, while weakening Ukraine could encourage Russia to continue its aggression.
The Two Matts Q&A: Is John Healey's big day going to be a nothingburger?
Q: A lot of the talk about AI is very abstract and intellectual, and I guess that's fine up to a point. But shouldn't there be more emphasis upon what this all means for energy and water consumption?
The Matts agree that AI's resource use deserves more attention. They discuss estimates of rapidly rising electricity consumption and explain how data centers can compete with farmers and communities for water. They warn that localized effects could provoke public backlash if policymakers fail to address them.

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Two sharp political commentators co-host a weekly, irreverent yet thoughtful discussion that blends UK politics, media scrutiny, and cultural commentary with listener Q&As and occasional guests. Across recent episodes they bounce between policy debates (care, public funding, governance), international events, and media trust, all delivered with brisk banter and a willingness to rile both audiences and opponents. Noteworthy are their incisive takes, strong personalities, and a habit of weaving pop culture into policy conversations, making it likely to appeal to listeners who enjoy lively, well-informed debates with a human, sometimes provocative edge.

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2. Mishal Husain
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