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Autism
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The NDBI Navigator podcast features engaging interviews with leading experts, researchers, and community practitioners who share real-world strategies and insights on using Naturalistic Developmental Behavioral Interventions (NDBIs) with young autistic children. Hosted by Dr. Jamie Hughes-Lika, each episode offers practical, actionable ideas to inspire and support professionals in making a meaning... more

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In this episode of the NDBI Navigator Podcast, Dr. Jamie sits down with Dr. Ana Maria Hernandez Villalobos, a medical doctor, psychologist, pediatric neuropsychologist, and certified ESDM and JASPER therapist and trainer based in Monterrey, Mexico. D... more

In this episode, we’re joined by Christine Gomez, an NDBI mentor at the Southwest Autism Research & Resource Center (SARRC) in Phoenix, Arizona. Christine shares her journey into the field of autism intervention, how she discovered Naturalistic Devel... more

In this inspiring episode, Dr. Jamie is joined by Natalia Santamaría, a psychoeducator and expert in Naturalistic Developmental Behavioral Interventions (NDBIs), who shares her powerful journey into NDBI practice and her work to bring parent-mediated... more

In this episode of the NDBI Navigator Podcast, Dr. Jamie welcomes Dr. Grace Gengoux, a nationally recognized expert in evidence-based autism intervention, clinical psychologist, BCBA-D, and faculty member at Stanford University. Together, they explor... more

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jessica Brian, psychologist, senior clinician scientist at Holland Bloorview Kids Rehabilitation Hospital, and associate professor at the University of Toronto. A long-time champion of caregiver-mediated intervent... more

In this episode—Dr. Jamie welcomes international guest Enron Seiti from Tirana, Albania. Enron shares the incredible work being done at the Help the Life Association, a nonprofit parent-founded organization dedicated to providing services and support... more

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Tracy Raulston, Assistant Professor in the Applied Behavior Analysis program at Texas State University. She shares her journey from classroom teaching to doctoral research, and how her passion for developmental sc... more

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Ilene Schwartz, Professor Emeritus at the University of Washington and founding developer of the Project DATA model. With more than four decades of experience, Dr. Schwartz reflects on the evolution of Applied Beh... more

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Ana Maria Hernandez Villalobos
Medical doctor, psychologist with specialization in pediatric neuropsychology, ESDM certified therapist and trainer, Jasper certified therapist
Monterrey, Mexico clinic
Episode: Episode 31 Bridging Cultures and Science: Expanding NDBI in Latin America
Enron Seiti
Leader of Help the Life Association in Albania
Help the Life Association
Episode: Episode 17 Transforming Care in Albania: NDBI, ESDM, and Empowering Families
Natalia Santamaría
Expert in early intervention from Argentina, involved in disseminating NDBI and ESDM in Latin America
Motivatea, Argentina
Episode: Episode 15 Disseminating NDBI Across Latin America: Lessons in Language, Culture, and Connection
Grace Gengoux
Clinical psychologist, BCBA, director of autism intervention programs at Stanford
Stanford University
Episode: Episode 30 The Magic of Motivation: How PRT and NDBIs Transform Learning for Autistic Children
Jessica Brian
Psychologist and senior clinician scientist
Holland Bloorview Kids Rehab Hospital; University of Toronto
Episode: Episode 18 Coaching Caregivers and Supporting Early Development with Social ABCs
Tracy Raulston
Assistant Professor in Applied Behavior Analysis at Texas State University
Texas State University
Episode: Episode 14 Supporting Early Development Through Play and Naturalistic Intervention
Ilene Schwartz
Renowned behavior analyst and educator
University of Washington
Episode: Episode 13 Embedded Instruction, Joyful Learning & the Evolution of ABA
Deanna Swain
Assistant Professor, School of Medicine and Department of Pediatrics, University of Colorado; clinical psychologist
University of Colorado; Children's Hospital Colorado
Episode: Episode 29 Caregivers as Change Agents: Data, Innovation, and Expanding Access to NDBI
Ania Petrova
Founder of Comprehensive ABA
Comprehensive ABA
Episode: Episode 26 Stronger Together: Building Meaningful Partnerships to Support Children and Families

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Jamie Hughes-Lika
Host of the podcast series providing interviews with experts in NDBIs

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Episode 23: Play Dojo_Building Social Skills Through Strength-Based, Playful Connections
Q: What inspired you to start Play Dojo and take it into a research setting?
We saw families lacking access to group play opportunities and realized a one-on-one ABA focus wasn't addressing social needs; turning community play into a research framework allowed us to observe, measure, and scale social play in a way that benefits a wider range of children.
Episode 24: Supporting Neurodivergent Individuals Across the Lifespan with PRT
Q: How do you ensure interventions stay meaningful as clients age and life contexts change?
We maintain fidelity while adapting the pace and complexity of goals to the learner's age and environment, shifting from rapid, many-goal curricula in early childhood to more holistic, trial-based progress in adolescence and adulthood, always keeping goals relevant to daily living and future independence.
Episode 7: Scaling ESDM in Community‑Based Autism Centers
Q: Can you share how you got into NDBIs and what shaped your approach to scaling them in community settings?
Will describes a journey from early structured teaching to embracing naturalistic interventions, with extensive training at Vanderbilt and exposure to leading NDBI researchers. He emphasizes the importance of family‑ and play‑based strategies, the pivotal role of ESDM in the clinic, and how SOAR built standardized training, fidelity checks, and a clear care model to scale effectively.
Episode 10: Scaling Parent Coaching & NDBIs in Public Systems
Q: Where can people find out or stay up to date with NDBI resources and research?
Resources include the NDBI Special Interest Group (ABAI), the Penn Center for Mental Health Philly AIMS micro-trainings, workshops like Next Steps at CHOP, and the NDBI website with research articles and events, plus ongoing webinars such as Behavior University offerings.
Episode 10: Scaling Parent Coaching & NDBIs in Public Systems
Q: What made you get into NDBIs or what inspired you down this road?
The guest describes a long journey from traditional ABA toward caregiver coaching and child-led, developmentally oriented approaches, driven by observations that families often don't access high-quality evidence-based ABA and by recognizing the need for caregiver involvement, developmentally informed practices, and better support systems for families.

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The show concentrates on Naturalistic Developmental Behavioral Interventions (NDBIs) for autistic children, with a strong emphasis on real-world implementation across clinical, educational, and community settings. Episodes frequently explore practical strategies such as caregiver coaching, fidelity and training, translation and cultural adaptation, telehealth delivery, and cross-border dissemination. Across samples, discussions highlight the shift from traditional ABA to developmentally grounded, family-centered approaches, the integration of interventions like ESDM and PRT, and the importance of infrastructure for scalable adoption in diverse contexts. Notably, the podcast often features researchers and clinicians who share actionable guid... more

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