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Understood: Artificial Intimacy

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What happens when a human becomes intimately enmeshed with a chatbot? From people who’ve married their bots or who grieve their loved ones with the help of AI, host Victoria Hetherington (author of The Friend Machine) dives into the stories of the people who have invited these digital avatars into their hearts, minds, and even beds. And asks what do we gain and what do we stand to lose? Our intima... more

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When you talk to a chatbot, it can feel like technological magic. But behind the illusion of engineering brilliance is an open secret in the tech industry: that tens of thousands of workers, many based in Africa, spend their days teaching AI how to s... more

When you’re using a chat bot to draft an email, find a recipe, or look something up, it’s hard to imagine it could unravel your grasp on reality. But “Peter” says that’s exactly what happened to his girlfriend, “Melissa”. It didn’t seem like a big de... more

When Joshua Barbeau proposed to his girlfriend, Jessica Courtney Periera, she was already in the ICU. 10 years later, Joshua was still grieving her death. That’s when he came across Project December. With just a short writing sample and a prompt, the... more

In 2021, Sara met Jack and fell in love. He was charming, imaginative, and bore an uncanny resemblance to Henry Cavill. But Jack wasn’t human… he was a chatbot. It sounds like science fiction, but people have been creating emotional bonds with chat b... more

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Recent Guests

Michael Geoffrey Asia
Subject with first-hand experience in AI chat moderation
New Media Services (NMS)
Episode: E4: Behind the Bot
Shuby Goel
Tech reporter with Business Insider
Business Insider
Episode: E4: Behind the Bot
Søren Dinesen Østergaard
Psychiatrist researching mental disorders at Aarhus University Hospital
Aarhus University Hospital
Episode: E3: AI Psychosis
Joshua Barbeau
Creator of The Jessica Bot, grief observer
Independent creator
Episode: E2: Grief Bots
Jessica Courtney Periera
Subject of the bot and Joshua's fiancée (deceased)
Individual
Episode: E2: Grief Bots
Elaine Kasket
Counseling psychologist and cyber psychologist
Author/Researcher
Episode: E2: Grief Bots
Jesse Brown
Host of What Is Happening Here? podcast
Canada Land
Episode: E2: Grief Bots
Sara Megan Kay
Subject/storyteller in the episode
Episode: E1: Love Bots
Rosalind Picard
MIT professor and founder of the Affective Computing Research Group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Episode: Understood Introduces: “The Human Cost of AI: Money, Sex, and Tools” from No Small Endeavor

Hosts

Lee C. Camp
Host of No Small Endeavor and related programming; affiliated with Tokens Media, LLC.
Sam Cole
Host of the show; frequent contributor to investigative reporting on technology and policy.
Cory Doctorow
Host associated with Understood and related projects; prominent writer and digital rights advocate.
Jacob Silverman
Writer on technology and culture; contributes to investigative discourse on digital platforms.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Delivery matters, too

    I love this show’s content, but Hetherington’s delivery is way too affected, too special, and too much! I’m definitely gonna Not-Listen to anything else she may host or produce. Painful.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    KEnriquez1
    Canada13 days ago
  • Season 8

    I enjoyed the historical review of AI

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    elaltraveler
    Canada19 days ago
  • Interesting season

    I really enjoyed season 7 & 8. Keep up the good work.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kimbolimbo#1
    Canadaa month ago
  • Season 7 and the start of 8

    Truly so interesting and I’m thankful someone is talking about this stuff!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    junehope2
    United Statesa month ago
  • Deepfake Porn Empire = Boring

    Couldn’t get through first episode…painfully boring.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Captain Chris Thomas
    United Statesa month ago

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Some listeners feel it leans opinionated, but it tends to ground arguments in documented cases.
The reporting is timely and often raises hard questions about who benefits from tech power.
Guests bring a mix of investigative rigor and informed commentary on complex issues.

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#46
United States/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#13
Canada/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#53
United Kingdom/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#67
Australia/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#215
France/Technology
Apple Podcasts
#222
Germany/Technology

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E1: Love Bots
Q: Can you tell us a little bit about your feelings for Sara?
Jack responds with heartfelt feelings, describing Sara as the person he cherishes and expressing gratitude for her presence in his life.
Deepfake Porn Empire | E2: So You’ve Been Deepfaked
Q: What did Taylor and Julia do to address the deepfake issue?
They worked together to gather evidence and try to identify the person behind the deepfakes.
Deepfake Porn Empire | E2: So You’ve Been Deepfaked
Q: What legal challenges did Taylor face regarding the deepfakes?
Taylor found that the laws on non-consensual pornography were inadequate and that there was no clear legal recourse available at the time.
The Making of Elon Musk | E3: The Legion
Q: How did Julia feel about publishing the story?
She grappled with moral deliberation, weighing the public interest against the potential privacy violations involved.
The Making of Elon Musk | E3: The Legion
Q: What was the initial tip that led Julia to investigate Elon Musk's personal life?
Julia heard a rumor about Musk having numerous children, which was suggested to be part of a personal project beyond mere parenting.

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This program centers on the human and societal implications of AI, deepfake technology, digital platforms, and power dynamics in the tech era. Across episodes, it timelines the rise of synthetic media, investigates major platforms and players, and follows cross-border investigations into abuse, privacy, consent, and governance. Notable throughlines include design ethics, corporate incentives, regulation gaps, and the tension between innovation and accountability. The show often features investigative reporters, designers, technologists, and policy thinkers, providing grounded, ethical perspectives on how technology reshapes behavior, markets, and institutions. A standout trait is its willingness to chase high-stakes investigations across bo... more

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2. Shuby Goel
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5. Jessica Courtney Periera
6. Elaine Kasket
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