
The Long Game is a weekly national security podcast hosted by Jake Sullivan, President Biden’s National Security Advisor, and Jon Finer, his Principal Deputy—senior aides who sat in on the classified Presidential Daily Brief each morning and translated raw intelligence into policy advice. Each week, Jake and Jon will pull back the curtain on how power really works helping you make sense of the nat... more
| Publishes | Weekly | Episodes | 29 | Founded | 7 months ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | GovernmentNews CommentaryNews | |||

President Trump is simultaneously pursuing peace talks with Iran while escalating U.S. military pressure in the region following recent strikes. Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer revisit the policy options most likely facing the administration and walk thr... more
President Trump is preparing to sign a major executive order on AI and cybersecurity at a moment of growing concern over cyber threats from China, Russia, Iran, and criminal ransomware gangs.
Jen Easterly, former Director of the Cybersecurity and In... more
President Trump heads to Beijing for a high-stakes summit with Xi Jinping at a moment of growing instability in the Middle East and rising anxiety across Asia.
In this episode, former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell joins Jake Sullivan ... more
Iran war developments, including new signs of a potential deal, UAE’s withdrawal from OPEC, and what weeks of conflict have revealed about U.S. leverage.
In this episode, Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer discuss:
- Why a deal with Iran may be inevitabl... more
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I was guided to this podcast when listening to another. I’m incredibly impressed with the conversation and knowledge of these people narrating the storyline and topics concerning the United States and the world writ large.
Extraordinary stuff! -Thank you.
No other way to put it—I love this show. It’s one thing for news reports or people you follow shape your notions on what’s happening to and with our relationships with other countries. It’s quite another to learn how diplomacy is strategized and executed in such a granular way by two guys who are so very good at it. I would also rate this as a nonpartisan show.
I really enjoy this podcast. I learn so much from them.
Followed this show from the start. Jake and Jon are excellent, researched, respectful. Always interesting but this latest episode with John Kerry was so thoughtful and even hopeful. Thank you for the time you spend putting this together for us. Highly highly recommend.
Kerry, Dems, and old Republicans practice diplomacy like intelligent and normal human beings.
But you guys sounded like you think or hope MAGA will take your advice and practice diplomacy like normal human beings.
MAGA DNA doesn’t work that way. Might makes right and only intelligent people read.
The core of Harding’s support, according to Mencken, was “small town yokels, of low political serfs, or morons scarcely able to understand a word of more than two syllables, and wholly unable t... more
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A weekly national security show that translates intelligence into policy for a broad audience. The hosts pull back the curtain on how decisions are made in diplomacy, defense, and intel, often pairing expert guests with rigorous, data-driven debates. Episodes frequently cover Iran, US-China competition, energy security, NATO and European defense, and the mechanics of executive decision-making, including red-team/blue-team exercises to test options. The format tends to blend on-the-record insights from former policymakers with high-profile guests and in-depth analysis, making it a go-to for listeners who want strategic context behind current events and long-range policy implications.
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Recent guests on The Long Game include:
1. Dan Wang
2. H.R. McMaster
3. Matt Pottinger
4. John Kerry
5. Ruben Gallego
6. Helima Croft
7. Danny Citrinowicz
8. Karim Sadjadpour
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