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The Integrated Schools Podcast

Andrew Lefkowits, Val Brown, Courtney Mykytyn
School Integration
Public Education
Desegregation
Integrated Schools
Community Engagement
School Segregation
Education
Brown V. Board Of Education
Educational Equity
Civil Rights Movement
Integration
Racial Justice
Systemic Racism
Whiteness
Racial Identity
Community Support
Public Schools
Racial Equity
2024 Election
Community Organizing

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversations strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

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ParentingEducationKids & FamilySelf-Improvement

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Latest Episodes

We all want what's best for our kids. But who do we include when we say "our kids"? Just the children in our homes? The kids at our school? In our district? How big are we willing to draw that circle? It might seem like a strange place to start a con... more

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Ten years ago, Nikole Hannah-Jones wrote a powerful essay about choosing a predominantly Black, low-income public school for her daughter, Najya. That piece helped inspire a generation of parents to think differently about school choice, including ma... more

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We are back! Welcome to Season 13 of The Integrated Schools Podcast. It’s been almost eight years and over 170 episodes, but as we kick off this new season, we are reflecting on where we find ourselves—as a country, as an organization, and in our own... more

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As we wrap up another school year, we're taking a moment to reflect on the conversations, challenges, and lessons that shaped Season 12.

This year, we explored what it means to build belonging, strengthen community, advocate for public education, an... more

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Recent Guests

Zahava Stadler
Director of the Education Funding Equity Initiative at New America.
New America
Episode: Demystifying School Funding
Marian Dingle
Longtime elementary school educator, Black mother of two adult children, and advocate for educational justice.
Episode: Reflecting on Nikole Hannah-Jones and the Choice for Integration
Jenny Devenny
Social worker, children's book author, and leader of Integrated Schools' NYC chapter.
Integrated Schools
Episode: Reflecting on Nikole Hannah-Jones and the Choice for Integration
Claire Dozier
Listener from Atlanta who referenced the Spatial Injustice episode and school closure experiences
Atlanta, Georgia (community member)
Episode: Reflections on Season 12
Cecilia Marshall
Granddaughter of Thurgood Marshall; founder of The Thurgood Marshall Foundation
The Thurgood Marshall Foundation
Episode: Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective
Loretta Ross
Associate Professor at Smith College; activist and author of Calling In
Smith College
Episode: REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross
Heather McGhee
Author of The Sum of Us; creator of The Sum of Us podcast and related audio documentary
Author, The Sum of Us; Podcast Creator
Episode: REVISIT: Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee
Maria Dolores Águila
Chicana writer from San Diego; author of A Sea of Lemon Trees, Men of La Sunday, and Radio Rising
Author
Episode: Seeds of Resistance: The Lemon Grove Legacy
Mara Tieken
Professor of Education at Bates College
Bates College
Episode: Spatial Injustice: School Closures as a Form of Educational Redlining

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 256 ratings
  • 100th Episode

    I am connecting David Bohm’s “On Dialogue” with one of many reasons why I love the Integrated Schools group.

    “When we come together to talk, or otherwise to act in common, can each of us be aware of the subtle fear and pleasure sensations that “block” his ability to listen freely? Without this awareness, the injunction to listen to the whole of what is said will have little meaning. But if each of us can give full attention to what is actually “blocking” communication while he is also attending... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Holistic surfer
    United States4 years ago
  • Every episode feels like a new truth followed by a hug

    If you are in pursuit of justice of any kind, this podcast is for you. I get tongue tied when I try to write a review for WHY Everyone should drop what they’re doing and listen to Integrated Schools NOW…so I usually just say, “trust me—listen to it.” And I think it’s because school integration intersects so much of our lives (even if you don’t have kids) that I just don’t know where to start.

    The interviews are always educational, eye opening, and sometimes sad. My brain makes a new connection... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jess-in-Oakland
    United States4 years ago
  • Amazing!

    You keep giving me words, explanations, ideas, and perspective to the stuff I am thinking about and dealing with right now as a black mom of three kids.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Black Mom from Denver
    United States4 years ago
  • This podcast inspires and challenges me to do better

    Thank you, thank you. I’m a white parent who graduated from a global-majority district, where my kids attend school now. Much has changed; much is the same. Fewer white families use the district since I was a student, and black excellence and equity is at the forefront of administrative policy. The education my kids and their fellow students are receiving is enriching, thoughtful, and imperfect. Such is the real, wrought world. When white parents who don’t use the public schools question my deci... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    thw local wizard
    United States5 years ago
  • Reckoning with Plessy

    Thank you for sharing this thoughtful conversation with Paula Forbes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Djm2516
    United States5 years ago

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Guests are noted for expertise and relatable storytelling.
Audiences value the mix of personal stories with policy context.
Listeners praise nuanced, empathetic discussions on race and education.
Shows are seen as a vital entry point for white and BIPOC listeners to discuss desegregation and equity.

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Talking Points

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Demystifying School Funding
Q: Why is segregation so closely connected to school funding?
Policies shaped residential segregation and housing wealth, while neighborhood schools and property-tax funding tied those local disparities to school resources. District boundaries determine both the students served and the local tax base, and school quality and funding can also drive families' residential choices, further reinforcing segregation.
Demystifying School Funding
Q: Why does funding matter in education, given that some high-funded schools do poorly and some low-funded schools do well?
Research on school finance reforms finds that funding can improve students' opportunities and long-term outcomes, including educational attainment and lifetime earnings. Resources are necessary but not sufficient: good choices still matter, but educators cannot reliably provide strong opportunities without adequate funding.
Reflecting on Nikole Hannah-Jones and the Choice for Integration
Q: What was your reaction when you read the piece?
Jenny worried that White parents might treat Hannah-Jones's experience as permission to disengage from integration. She emphasized that her family's choices and her children's experiences are not equivalent to those of a Black family.
Reflecting on Nikole Hannah-Jones and the Choice for Integration
Q: How did you think about making choices for your kids when it came to school?
Marian describes choosing among public and private schools based on her children's needs, drawing on her mother's guidance and her own experience as an educator. She prioritized academic opportunity, a supportive environment, and a mix of students, while supplementing what schools did not provide.
REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross
Q: What is Calling In, and how does it differ from Calling Out?
Calling In is a practice of engaging with others through love, respect, and understanding, choosing constructive dialogue over public shaming, and recognizing that accountability can happen privately and compassionately.

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1. Zahava Stadler
2. Marian Dingle
3. Jenny Devenny
4. Claire Dozier
5. Cecilia Marshall
6. Loretta Ross
7. Heather McGhee
8. Maria Dolores Águila

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