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The Integrated Schools Podcast

Andrew Lefkowits, Val Brown, Courtney Mykytyn
School Integration
Desegregation
Public Education
Community Engagement
Integrated Schools
Education
Brown V. Board Of Education
School Segregation
Educational Equity
Integration
Civil Rights Movement
Racial Justice
Systemic Racism
Whiteness
Racial Identity
Community Support
Public Schools
Racial Equity
2024 Election
Community Organizing

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversations strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

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As we wrap up another school year, we're taking a moment to reflect on the conversations, challenges, and lessons that shaped Season 12.

This year, we explored what it means to build belonging, strengthen community, advocate for public education, an... more

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On the 72nd anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education, Andrew and Dr. Val sit down with Cecilia Marshall — granddaughter of Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall and founder of the newly launched Thurgood Marshall Foundation. Together, they reflec... more

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We're revisiting our conversation with Dr. Loretta Ross because her book, Calling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You’d Rather Cancel, is the Integrated Schools book club pick for this month. You can register for one of our amazing, free bo... more

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We’re going back to the archives today to revisit a conversation with Heather McGhee. In February of 2021, Heather McGhee’s book, The Sum of Us came out. With a focus on the ways in which racism harms everyone, and the potential good that can come fr... more

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Recent Guests

Cecilia Marshall
Granddaughter of Thurgood Marshall; founder of The Thurgood Marshall Foundation
The Thurgood Marshall Foundation
Episode: Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective
Loretta Ross
Associate Professor at Smith College; activist and author of Calling In
Smith College
Episode: REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross
Heather McGhee
Author of The Sum of Us; creator of The Sum of Us podcast and related audio documentary
Author, The Sum of Us; Podcast Creator
Episode: REVISIT: Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee
Maria Dolores Águila
Chicana writer from San Diego; author of A Sea of Lemon Trees, Men of La Sunday, and Radio Rising
Author
Episode: Seeds of Resistance: The Lemon Grove Legacy
Mara Tieken
Professor of Education at Bates College
Bates College
Episode: Spatial Injustice: School Closures as a Form of Educational Redlining
Logan Tilton
Junior at North Carolina Central University, history major focusing on African American studies
Levine Museum fellowship participant
Episode: Legacy and Community: Bridging Generations through History
Dr. Danielle Wingfield
A legal historian and law professor
University of Virginia
Episode: Staying Power with Danielle Wingfield
Emily Ladau
Disability rights activist and author of 'Demystifying Disability'
Episode: Demystifying Disability with Emily Ladau
Keri Rodrigues
President of the National Parents Union, community organizer, and advocate for parent engagement in education
National Parents Union
Episode: A Big Tent: Parent Voice for Public Educatiion

Hosts

Andrew White
Host focused on race, parenting, and school integration; multiple episodes feature his perspectives and collaborations.
Val Brown
Co-host who brings personal experience as a Black mom and advocates for inclusive education and parent involvement.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 254 ratings
  • 100th Episode

    I am connecting David Bohm’s “On Dialogue” with one of many reasons why I love the Integrated Schools group.

    “When we come together to talk, or otherwise to act in common, can each of us be aware of the subtle fear and pleasure sensations that “block” his ability to listen freely? Without this awareness, the injunction to listen to the whole of what is said will have little meaning. But if each of us can give full attention to what is actually “blocking” communication while he is also attending... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Holistic surfer
    United States3 years ago
  • Every episode feels like a new truth followed by a hug

    If you are in pursuit of justice of any kind, this podcast is for you. I get tongue tied when I try to write a review for WHY Everyone should drop what they’re doing and listen to Integrated Schools NOW…so I usually just say, “trust me—listen to it.” And I think it’s because school integration intersects so much of our lives (even if you don’t have kids) that I just don’t know where to start.

    The interviews are always educational, eye opening, and sometimes sad. My brain makes a new connection... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jess-in-Oakland
    United States3 years ago
  • Amazing!

    You keep giving me words, explanations, ideas, and perspective to the stuff I am thinking about and dealing with right now as a black mom of three kids.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Black Mom from Denver
    United States4 years ago
  • This podcast inspires and challenges me to do better

    Thank you, thank you. I’m a white parent who graduated from a global-majority district, where my kids attend school now. Much has changed; much is the same. Fewer white families use the district since I was a student, and black excellence and equity is at the forefront of administrative policy. The education my kids and their fellow students are receiving is enriching, thoughtful, and imperfect. Such is the real, wrought world. When white parents who don’t use the public schools question my deci... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    thw local wizard
    United States5 years ago
  • Reckoning with Plessy

    Thank you for sharing this thoughtful conversation with Paula Forbes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Djm2516
    United States5 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Listeners praise nuanced discussions of race and education, with many noting actionable insights for parents and educators.
The show is valued for its empathy and willingness to tackle tough topics, though some critics wish for broader diversity of perspectives.
Guests are consistently described as credible and their stories impactful, often blending personal experience with research.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross
Q: What is Calling In, and how does it differ from Calling Out?
Calling In is a practice of engaging with others through love, respect, and understanding, choosing constructive dialogue over public shaming, and recognizing that accountability can happen privately and compassionately.
Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective
Q: What is the traveling museum project and how will it serve students?
The traveling museum aims to bring civics education to 42 cities over the year, parked on campuses and offering field trips for K-12 students with community days on weekends, to reach thousands who may not be able to visit a major museum, highlighting Marshall's cases and the broader civil rights narrative.
Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective
Q: Why did you decide to found the Thurgood Marshall Foundation and tell this story now?
Cecilia explains she was hesitant at first because her grandfather did not want to be centered, but over time she felt a moral obligation to preserve the clients' stories and to educate students about the justice struggle, emphasizing that storytelling is a form of power and a way to inspire future civil rights leaders.
Staying Power with Danielle Wingfield
Q: Why focus on the intersection of families, civil rights, and education?
It's personal; I was born in Prince Edward County, a key site for Brown v. Board. My family experienced the effects of school closures due to desegregation efforts, and I felt compelled to study these intersections.
Demystifying Disability with Emily Ladau
Q: What is ableism and how can we be on the lookout for it?
Emily defines ableism as attitudes and actions that devalue people based on disability, mentioning that it's deeply ingrained in our language and systems.

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What is The Integrated Schools Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful, education-focused show exploring race, parenting, and school integration through conversations with researchers, activists, parents, and educators. Episodes consistently center on cross-racial solidarity, equitable schooling, and the human stories behind policy decisions, often balancing historical context with practical steps for families and communities. Notable is a steady emphasis on real-world activism, storytelling, and coalition-building, making complex systemic topics accessible for listeners who want to engage more deeply with their schools and neighborhoods.

A standout aspect is the sustained focus on allyship, equity, and public education as a shared social good, with guests ranging from scholars to parent advocate... more

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Recent guests on The Integrated Schools Podcast include:

1. Cecilia Marshall
2. Loretta Ross
3. Heather McGhee
4. Maria Dolores Águila
5. Mara Tieken
6. Logan Tilton
7. Dr. Danielle Wingfield
8. Emily Ladau

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