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There is no such thing as a perfect leader. We invite the country's most admired leaders to talk about their imperfections and leadership journey.

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What if the key to better sleep, faster recovery, and long-term brain health is a trace mineral that was once in your drinking water — and quietly removed? In this episode, I sit down with Sudhir, a board-certified psychiatrist, Navy veteran, and co-... more

In this episode of Imperfect Leaders, host Jeff Cohn sits down with Dr. Bradley Schlaggar — physician, neuroscientist, and President and CEO of the Kennedy Krieger Institute in Baltimore, one of the world's premier institutions for children and young... more

Big law is changing fast, but one thing hasn’t: the firms that win still recruit – and keep – talent better than everyone else. In this episode, John Cashman breaks down how elite law firms actually close top laterals—mindset shifts, process, culture... more

Some CEOs hide behind the veil of invulnerability.

Michael Paul, Ph.D., does the opposite—he believes that real leadership starts with choosing trust over armor. Michael was deeply influenced by the wisdom of Patrick Lencioni, never choose "invulne... more

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Bradley Schlaggar
Neuroscientist, physician, and CEO of Kennedy Krieger Institute
Kennedy Krieger Institute
Episode: Thinking About Thinking: What a World-Class Neuroscientist Learned When His Own Child Got Sick, with Dr. Bradley Schlaggar, CEO of the Kennedy Krieger Institute
John Cashman
CEO of Major Lindsey & Africa
Major Lindsey & Africa
Episode: Winning the War for Rainmakers & Law Firm Leaders, with John Cashman, President Major, Lindsey, & Africa
Michael Paul
CEO of MARAbio, leading a biotech company focused on maternal autoantibody related autism
MARAbio
Episode: Michael Paul, CEO of MaraBio - Finding 'Ability' in Disability
Chris Johnson
CEO of Bluebird Kid's Health
Bluebird Kid's Health
Episode: Molded from Clay – Chris Johnson Brings Bluebird Kids Health to Families Across America
Amanda Lukof
Founder of Eleplan, caregiver advocate
Eleplan
Episode: “From Care to Character with Amanda Lukof: How Eleplan Transforms Families – and Ourselves”
Keivan Stassun
Professor, founder and director of the Frist Center for Autism and Innovation at Vanderbilt University
Vanderbilt University / Frist Center for Autism and Innovation
Episode: The Neurodiverse Leadership Challenge – with Professor Keivan Stassun, Founder of Frist Center for Autism and Innovation at Vanderbilt University
Chris Male
Co-Founder & Managing Partner of the Autism Impact Fund
Autism Impact Fund
Episode: A True North Leader – Chris Male – Co-Founder & Managing Partner, Autism Impact Fund
Dave Boehmer
CEO & Founder of Banff Advisors
Banff Advisors
Episode: Like a Hollywood Talent Agency but for Top Business Leaders – with Dave Boehmer, CEO & Founder of Banff Advisors
Adrian Jones
Chairman & Co-Head, Global Private Equity & Asset Management at Goldman Sachs
Goldman Sachs
Episode: My Autistic Son Taught Me to Be a More Resilient Leader – with Adrian Jones, Goldman Sachs – Chairman & Co-Head, Global Private Equity, Asset Management

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Jeffrey Cohn
Host of Imperfect Leaders

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 38 ratings
  • Very intriguing

    It’s very interesting how you dive into multiple people perspectives and allow them to tell their story.

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    ;4;<>$
    United States3 years ago
  • Great! Look forward to each episode

    So interesting, engaging, informational yet entertaining which is hard to find!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hteems
    United States4 years ago
  • Great podcast

    Easy to listen to and always learn something new from a variety of leaders across different industries.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bennsjsjdnx
    United States4 years ago
  • Perfect Podcast

    A diverse collection of candid, smart and fun conversations. The imperfect leaders (guests), facilitated by Jeff to deliver a cornucopia assortment for real life practical stories for business and/or life/personal in a non intimidating way! It’s real! The podcasts are less than a half an hour….any and all listeners will benefit for sure! Whether in the car for your big meeting or driving your kids in the car!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MeBBMe
    United States4 years ago
  • Like an MBA in a Box!

    Love Jeff's Podcast! This feels like an ‘MBA in a box’ … so many leaders across disciplines who share practical advice.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    yardley mama
    United States4 years ago

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How His Autistic Son – Caleb – Helped Him Become a Better CEO – with Brian Harper, CEO of 11 North Partners.
Q: How did Caleb's diagnosis influence your leadership style and company culture?
Caleb's journey taught him to prioritize strengths, foster inclusive leadership, and build a culture where vulnerability and openness are safe, which in turn improves trust and performance across the organization.
How His Autistic Son – Caleb – Helped Him Become a Better CEO – with Brian Harper, CEO of 11 North Partners.
Q: What surprised you most about leading with empathy in such a competitive industry?
Harper explains that empathy does not weaken execution; it strengthens decision-making, alignment, and accountability, enabling teams to perform at a high level while staying true to core values.
Blair Berk – How Does a Jewish Girl from North Carolina Grow Up to Become One of the Country's Top Criminal Defense Lawyers?
Q: What is a problem that you might hear at 3 in the morning?
Typically a client has been arrested or a warrant is present, and the goal is to defuse the situation and avoid an arrest where possible, while coordinating with agents and authorities.
Winning the War for Rainmakers & Law Firm Leaders, with John Cashman, President Major, Lindsey, & Africa
Q: What should firms do in the first year to keep a star recruiter-hire happy and engaged?
Implement a concrete business plan, follow through on commitments (employees need ongoing support, not just promises), and maintain engagement with both clients and the new partner.
Winning the War for Rainmakers & Law Firm Leaders, with John Cashman, President Major, Lindsey, & Africa
Q: What separates firms that consistently win the lateral hires from those that are always in the mix?
He emphasizes the importance of a fast, thoughtful process, visible leadership involvement, and a clear, differentiated value proposition beyond generic culture talk.

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What is Imperfect Leaders about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A leadership-focused series featuring high-profile executives and thinkers who share imperfect moments from their journeys, the challenges of leading diverse organizations, and how personal experiences shape leadership philosophy. Episodes commonly explore topics like organizational culture, resilience, ethics, talent strategy, and the role of empathy and neurodiversity in building strong teams. Noteworthy angles include mission-driven and family-centered approaches to leadership, the impact of personal adversity on decision-making, and practical takeaways for scaling values-led organizations across industries such as healthcare, finance, technology, and law. Potential listeners can expect candid stories, actionable leadership lessons, and ... more

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Recent guests on Imperfect Leaders include:

1. Bradley Schlaggar
2. John Cashman
3. Michael Paul
4. Chris Johnson
5. Amanda Lukof
6. Keivan Stassun
7. Chris Male
8. Dave Boehmer

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