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The Hidden Third

Mariana van Zeller
Cocaine Trafficking
Prison Reform
Black Markets
Economy
Society
Crime
Skateboarding
Family Dynamics
Gang Violence
Oxycodone
Education
Hollywood
Drug Addiction
Florida
George Brothers
Healthcare Fraud
Medicare
American Opioid Crisis
Mental Health
Socrates

From Emmy and Peabody Award–winning journalist Mariana van Zeller comes THE HIDDEN THIRD, a weekly dive into the underground markets that quietly power a third of the global economy. Every episode Mariana sits down with people who know these worlds firsthand - the hustlers, smugglers, scammers, kingpins, and those trying to shut them down. The series reveals how they function, why they endure, and... more

PublishesTwice weeklyEpisodes6Foundeda month ago
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From Cocaine Trafficker to Prison Reformer | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: Can you tell us how you positioned yourself for a successful life after prison?
He focused on education, writing, and gaining the support of mentors to establish a new path.
From Cocaine Trafficker to Prison Reformer | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: How much money did you make in your drug trafficking endeavors?
He estimated making around $3 to $4 million during his trafficking days before being arrested.
From Cocaine Trafficker to Prison Reformer | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: What was your childhood like?
He grew up in North Seattle, faced family struggles during his adolescence, and turned to drug trafficking influenced by peers.

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