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The Gray Divorce Podcast

Andrew Hatherley
Divorce
Gray Divorce
Financial Planning
Mediation
International Divorce
Family Law
Divorce CFO
Late Life Divorce
Retirement Planning
Social Security
Communication
Life Insurance
Emotional Health
Divorce Financial Analysis
Emotional Challenges In Divorce
Annuities
Stock Market Volatility
Support Networks
Expatriate Couples
Cross-Cultural Issues

Welcome to The Gray Divorce Podcast. Join Divorce Financial Advisor and Retirement Planning Counsellor Andrew Hatherley and guest experts as they help late life divorcees build the financial foundation for a meaningful life after divorce. There is life after divorce!

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes98Founded4 years ago
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Latest Episodes

Episode 98 explores the emotional and financial realities families face when a parent decides to remarry later in life. Why do adult children often react so strongly? How can parents protect both a new spouse and their children? And what estate plann... more

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Gray divorce doesn't just divide assets—it often transfers decades of financial responsibility overnight. 

In Episode 97, Andrew Hatherley shines a light on a growing issue facing women after divorce: the gap between the financial responsibility the... more

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How do finances shape dating and relationships after gray divorce? 

In Episode 95, Andrew Hatherley sits down with Dr. Lauren Harris, researcher and Assistant Professor of Human Development and Family Studies at the University of New Hampshire, to e... more

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High-conflict divorce can feel endless, emotionally exhausting, and financially devastating, especially later in life. 

In Episode 96, Andrew Hatherley welcomes Karen McMahon, high-conflict divorce strategist, to explore emotional regulation, post-t... more

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Lauren Harris
Assistant Professor of Human Development and Family Studies at the University of New Hampshire
University of New Hampshire
Episode: Money and Romance after Gray Divorce with Lauren Harris, PhD
Karen McMahon
high-conflict divorce strategist, certified divorce coach, founder of Journey Beyond Divorce
Journey Beyond Divorce
Episode: Navigating High Conflict Divorce with Karen McMahon
Melissa Murphy Pavone
Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Certified Financial Planner; founder of Mindful Divorce Partners
Mindful Divorce Partners
Episode: Divorce by Design with Melissa Pavone, CDFA
Regina Hess
CDFA, founder of Forge Wealth Management, author and podcast host
Forge Wealth Management
Episode: A Deep Dive into Social Security with Regina Hess, CDFA
Oona Metz
Therapist, writer, and speaker who specializes in treating women navigating divorce
Based in Boston; author of Unhitched
Episode: Unhitched - Navigating the Emotions of Divorce with Oona Metz
Greg Schwem
A veteran stand-up comedian and author
Author of Turning Gut Punches into Punchlines
Episode: Turning the Divorce Punch into Punchlines with Greg Schwem
Janna Hefty
Family law attorney in Minnesota
Collaborative Law Institute of Minnesota
Episode: Divorce with Respect Week with The Collaborative Law Institute of MN
Michelle Leisen
Certified divorce financial analyst; financial neutral in collaborative settings
11 Wealth Advisory; Divorce Smart
Episode: Divorce with Respect Week with The Collaborative Law Institute of MN
Brian Burns
Marriage and family therapist; emotional and parenting coach in collaborative settings
Mn Relationship Repair
Episode: Divorce with Respect Week with The Collaborative Law Institute of MN

Host

Andrew Hatherley
Host of The Gray Divorce Podcast

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 22 ratings
  • Balanced and informative!

    This has been my How-to-guide with throughout my (surprise!) divorce situation. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    T Drinker
    United States2 months ago
  • Gray Divorce - Difficult, yet Andrew tackles the conversation

    Andrew boldly steps into a difficult conversations, but breaks it down - and creates steps, practices and amicable ways to tackle divorce at a later age.

    This podcast is a great “listen” — your time will be well spent learning how to systematically “uncouple” in the best way possible for all of those involved.

    Divorce in no way has to be messy and nasty. This is why I love Andrew’s open and honest conversation about Gray Divorce.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Suzanne Campi
    United Statesa year ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Listeners appreciate practical steps and compassionate tone around difficult conversations about gray divorce.
The host balances financial prudence with emotional resilience, resonating with long-term planners and those seeking less adversarial approaches.
Guests with diverse expertise help translate complex topics into actionable guidance.

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Money and Romance after Gray Divorce with Lauren Harris, PhD
Q: What are the key differences between younger and older adults in approaching finances in dating and repartnering?
Older adults prioritize keeping finances separate due to accumulated assets and long work histories, whereas younger adults are more open to merging finances and building a shared life, reflecting a shift in financial priorities with age.
Money and Romance after Gray Divorce with Lauren Harris, PhD
Q: How did you come to study how financial preferences impact dating in later life?
Lauren describes how the topic chose her after she pursued family formation in graduate school, shifting focus to older adults as a largely overlooked group and realizing the importance of independence in finances when repartnering.
Navigating High Conflict Divorce with Karen McMahon
Q: How would you place high-conflict divorce on a spectrum from 1 to 10, and what characterizes the edges of that spectrum?
High-conflict divorce often spans the upper end of the spectrum, characterized by entrenched communication breakdowns, manipulation, and a lack of willingness to collaborate, which can prolong proceedings and financial costs; the line between lower-conflict and high-conflict is drawn where partners struggle to communicate and coordinate in the best interests of children or shared finances.
Divorce by Design with Melissa Pavone, CDFA
Q: How does the timing of involving a CDFA affect long-term outcomes for clients in gray divorce scenarios?
Involving a CDFA early helps map cash flow, deficits, and future implications of settlements, reducing the chance of costly mistakes and rework later.
Unhitched - Navigating the Emotions of Divorce with Oona Metz
Q: What is the first phase of your four-stage model for divorce grief, and why is it important to acknowledge it even if the divorce was initiated by one partner?
Heartbreak is the starting point for everyone, regardless of who initiated the divorce; recognizing heartbreak helps validate feelings and sets the stage for healthier processing rather than denial.

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What is The Gray Divorce Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A show focused on late-life separation, blending practical financial guidance with emotional and relational perspectives. Episodes frequently cover how to navigate gray divorce through a collaborative, less adversarial lens—discussing topics like mortgage strategies, equity compensation, and life-centered financial planning, often with experts in law, finance, therapy, and real estate. A standout trait is its emphasis on resilience, reinvention, and compassionate approaches to post-divorce life, including humor, caregiving after divorce, and navigating intimacy after 50. Listeners are likely professionals planning for retirement-era transitions and seeking actionable steps to protect assets, simplify processes, and rebuild purpose after div... more

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3. Melissa Murphy Pavone
4. Regina Hess
5. Oona Metz
6. Greg Schwem
7. Janna Hefty
8. Michelle Leisen

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