The Fourth Curtain
Alexander Seropian & Aaron MarroquinA GUIDED TOUR OF VIDEOGAME MAKERY! Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Art Director, Game Designer, part time magician) take you on a tour of the minds that create our favorite video games. We may also wander around in our own heads too. We aim to inspire, educate and entertain you about the games you love, the people that make them and hey, if you'... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 109 | Founded | 3 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | LeisureVideo Games | |||
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We have an insight-packed and hopeful discussion with Owen Mahoney, CEO of Maplestory's Nexon. This Choplifter fan went on to acquire JAMDAT and DICE for EA, then saw the future with Embark. We discuss forever games, where stories come from and the h... more
We're hyped to talk secrets with Billy Basso, creator of the award-winning smash Animal Well. Beginning with educational and medical games he went on to solo develop Animal Well, which delivers a huge game in less than 40 MB. Surgery, celebrity and a... more
We kick off Season 4 with Patrick Söderlund, CEO/founder of Embark Studios and maker of the hit Arc Raiders. Former head of DICE and Battlefield at EA, he found faster ways to build. We discuss owing the community, AI, and incredible value - this wee... more
Our intrepid hosts provide a prologue to the fourth season of the podcast with a wide-ranging conversation on the state of the videogame industry. With appreciation for GDC, Resident Evil 9 and Phil Spencer, they also talk (of course) AI and signs we... more
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Apple Podcasts1Jorgan byorgan
United States8 months ago - great gaming cast
this is one of the best gaming podcast!! who’s who of great game makers!!!
Apple Podcasts5MarleyXUnited States8 months ago - Great games podcast
This is a great games podcast with fantastic guests. I was wondering why the overall rating was so low and saw it only had two ratings. Have no idea why someone would give this one star unless they had a personal grudge.
Apple Podcasts5Mobile Gamer 2001
Canadaa year ago - Presses all the right buttons!
I can’t imagine stories like these are being collected anywhere else. Listening to the hosts and their excellent guests is like a Who’s Who of the recent age of video games.
For those who remember it, listening to T4C gives me the same vibes I get from reading Levy’s “Hackers”.
Apple Podcasts5joecentricUnited States3 years ago - Filling a Delightful Need
For those of us that have *loved* games since we were wee lads and lasses… and have wondered about the behind the scenes innovators and journey-persons bringing these delightful experiences to us, Alex and his merry band of pirates are bringing those stories to our eyes and ears.
I’m particularly delighted by the fact they are highlighting some of the games most formative to my love of the medium— from Marathon on the Mac (I *loved* that game and burned many hours on it with joy) to Plants vs Z... more
Apple Podcasts5cumulusguyUnited States3 years ago
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Apple Podcasts | #173 | United States/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #193 | Canada/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #250 |  United Kingdom/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #153 |  Australia/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #197 |  France/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #18 |  Hong Kong/Leisure/Video Games |
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A show that pulls back the curtain on how video games are created, featuring candid conversations with studio founders, developers, executives, and creators. Topics span studio journeys, design philosophy, industry evolution, and the realities of bringing ambitious games to life, often blending technical insight with personal anecdotes. Listeners likely value behind-the-scenes storytelling, practical lessons for game development, and an industry-forward mindset that covers entrepreneurship, publishing dynamics, and AI's role in creative work. A standout trait is the hosts' veteran perspectives from multiple leading studios, which yields deep context and a willingness to explore both creative and business angles.
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Recent guests on The Fourth Curtain include:
1. Owen Mahoney
2. Billy Basso
3. Patrick Söderlund
4. Trip Hawkins
5. Brian Fleming
6. Chris Zimmerman
7. Paul Sage
8. Kelly Wallick
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