The Fourth Curtain
Alexander Seropian & Aaron MarroquinA GUIDED TOUR OF VIDEOGAME MAKERY! Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Art Director, Game Designer, part time magician) take you on a tour of the minds that create our favorite video games. We may also wander around in our own heads too. We aim to inspire, educate and entertain you about the games you love, the people that make them and hey, if you'... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 112 | Founded | 4 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | Video GamesLeisure | |||
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Founder and CEO of Young Horses Phil Tibitoski joined us to explain how you can succeed without greenlights! Their student project Octodad went on to IGF fame and solid sales, followed by the charming Bug Snax. We talk knowing when to ship and the ar... more
Our guest was chief creative officer at Blizzard and helped drive some of the biggest videogames ever, like StarCraft and World of Warcraft. Now CEO of Bonfire Studios, he's making a new title, Arkheron. We discuss smurfing, game seeds and cracking t... more
If your hilarious party game is laced with snark you know the work of this week's guest, Jackbox CEO Mike Bilder. One of the legion of the Midway diaspora, he saw the transition from coin-op to console. We discuss drive vs crunch, streaming platforms... more
We have an insight-packed and hopeful discussion with Owen Mahoney, CEO of Maplestory's Nexon. This Choplifter fan went on to acquire JAMDAT and DICE for EA, then saw the future with Embark. We discuss forever games, where stories come from and the h... more
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Apple Podcasts1Jorgan byorgan
United States10 months ago - great gaming cast
this is one of the best gaming podcast!! who’s who of great game makers!!!
Apple Podcasts5MarleyXUnited States10 months ago - Great games podcast
This is a great games podcast with fantastic guests. I was wondering why the overall rating was so low and saw it only had two ratings. Have no idea why someone would give this one star unless they had a personal grudge.
Apple Podcasts5Mobile Gamer 2001
Canadaa year ago - Presses all the right buttons!
I can’t imagine stories like these are being collected anywhere else. Listening to the hosts and their excellent guests is like a Who’s Who of the recent age of video games.
For those who remember it, listening to T4C gives me the same vibes I get from reading Levy’s “Hackers”.
Apple Podcasts5joecentricUnited States3 years ago - Filling a Delightful Need
For those of us that have *loved* games since we were wee lads and lasses… and have wondered about the behind the scenes innovators and journey-persons bringing these delightful experiences to us, Alex and his merry band of pirates are bringing those stories to our eyes and ears.
I’m particularly delighted by the fact they are highlighting some of the games most formative to my love of the medium— from Marathon on the Mac (I *loved* that game and burned many hours on it with joy) to Plants vs Z... more
Apple Podcasts5cumulusguyUnited States3 years ago
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Apple Podcasts | #185 |  France/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #19 |  South Korea/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #25 |  Taiwan/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #48 |  Indonesia/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #51 |  Israel/Leisure/Video Games |
Apple Podcasts | #129 |  Hong Kong/Leisure/Video Games |
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This show brings together veterans and rising stars from the video game industry to explore how games are made, published, and imagined. Episodes frequently cover career journeys, studio culture, development practices, and the changing economics of gaming, with thoughtful dives into indie paths, AAA transitions, and the impact of new tools like AI. Listeners can expect candid stories about creativity, leadership, and the realities of bringing games to market, often anchored by long-running studios and influential figures in publishing, technology, and game design. A standout thread across episodes is the balance between artistic risk and sustainable production, plus a recurring emphasis on mentorship, community, and the human side of making... more
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Recent guests on The Fourth Curtain include:
1. Mike Bilder
2. Owen Mahoney
3. Billy Basso
4. Patrick Söderlund
5. Trip Hawkins
6. Brian Fleming
7. Chris Zimmerman
8. Paul Sage
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