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Decoder with Nilay Patel

The Verge
Artificial Intelligence
Openai
Google
Generative AI
Elon Musk
Microsoft
Donald Trump
Trump Administration
Healthcare
Private Equity
Amazon
Youtube
Anthropic
AI Agents
Tiktok
First Amendment
Chatgpt
The Verge
Tesla
Electric Vehicles

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Recent Guests

Ali Berman
Co-head of Creators Division at United Talent Agency
United Talent Agency
Episode: Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Raina Penchansky
Co-head of Creators Division at United Talent Agency
United Talent Agency
Episode: Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Roger Dahle
CEO of Weber Blackstone
Weber Blackstone (Weber + Blackstone)
Episode: He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber
Jim Farley
CEO of Ford Motor Company
Ford Motor Company
Episode: Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble
Jack Conte
CEO and co-founder of Patreon (introduced as Patreon CEO in the episode)
Patreon
Episode: Can Patreon fight fire with social media fire?
Adam Bry
CEO and co-founder of Skydio
Skydio
Episode: Skydio CEO argues more drones will make us safer
Roger Lynch
CEO of Condé Nast
Condé Nast
Episode: Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala & his secret succession plan
Mustafa Suleyman
CEO of Microsoft AI
Microsoft
Episode: Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job
Ryan Mac
Technology reporter for The New York Times; co-author of Character Limit
The New York Times
Episode: Elon Musk is steamrolling Wall Street to become a trillionaire

Host

Nilay Patel
Host of the show; editor-in-chief at The Verge; long-time tech journalist and interviewer.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
  • Not Just For Techbros!!

    A podcast that talks about tech with normal people in mind? Who would have imagined such a thing could exist. It is refreshing to hear talk about tech take the social world into account instead of pretending it doesn’t exist. This podcast gives a way better perspective than most tech podcasts. The hosts care about “why” questions and not just bootlicking for billionaires

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    northshorestalker
    United States3 months ago
  • Great podcast delving into the intricacies of tech and business!

    Amazing and informative podcast. Please update the thumbnail resolution of the ad-free version!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sajiberjaber
    United States3 months ago
  • Identify?

    Very timely excellent interview. Our nonprofit is currently evaluating

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BalayAdvisory
    United States4 months ago
  • Satisfying

    It’s incredibly satisfying to watch Nilay hold tech leaders accountable while delivering real journalism on the most important tech developments of this era. Truly a refreshing approach to get to the bottom of critical issues, and avoid the classic canned talking points. Excellent conversation, journalism, and tech reporting.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    estuhldreher
    United States4 months ago
  • Superhuman=gross

    Listening to the CEO weasel around being caught dead to rights trying to exploit real journalists without compensation and while misleading users is disgusting.

    All these AI shills are just acting without any responsibility or thought beyond “make me money, AI”

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    0xbeepBoop
    United States4 months ago

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Audience appreciates tough, journalism-forward interviews with tech leaders and policymakers.
Some listeners feel recent episodes skew politically; others praise in-depth investigations and edge-case inquiries.
Listeners value accountability and thoughtful critique of AI and platform dynamics.

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#116
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#130
Canada/Business
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#154
Australia/Business
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#162
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#187
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber
Q: How is the merged entity structured in terms of brands and operations?
It's one company with two awesome brands, sharing centers of excellence (Chicago for finance, Logan for certain functions, and a newer Utah headquarters), with product development organized by grill type so both brands can benefit from shared engineering while maintaining brand-specific markets.
Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Q: How do you identify talent early and convince them to partner with your division?
We partner early with talent whose voice and audience are unique, value-building beyond brand deals, and we use a hands-on, collaborative pitch process that emphasizes long-term, multi-faceted opportunities rather than one-off sponsorships.
The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi
Q: Tell me about what you are hearing in these rooms that are leading to these crazy AI promises getting made.
Amy describes a flood of wild pitches and bargain deals in the marketplace, underscoring that many promises about free AI or platforms are not sustainable and that real value comes from disciplined, data-driven approaches and strong partnerships.
Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble
Q: How do you view government tariffs and subsidies affecting Ford's profitability?
He discusses the burden of imported parts tariffs, the need for tariff relief to keep vehicles affordable, and the importance of battery onshoring and battery manufacturing credits to remain competitive with China, while stressing a national-level standard for tailpipe emissions to simplify logistics.
Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble
Q: How do you decide to split the team and overhaul Ford's EV strategy?
Farley explains creating a separate Skunk Works group with autonomy, then gradually integrating its outputs into Ford, using a de-risked, minimalist initial software and hardware platform before adding complexity. This includes having a dedicated leader who can say no and a Gemba-driven approach to validate decisions.

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This show features high-profile tech leaders, policy makers, journalists, and researchers, with deep dives into how AI, platforms, regulation, and business strategy shape tech's future. Episodes frequently center on accountability, safety standards, labor implications, and the monetization of AI, often pairing tough questions with thoughtful context from industry insiders. Noteworthy is the willingness to challenge powerful figures, while keeping a broad lens on society, policy, and real-world impact. Listeners can expect rigorous interviews, a strong emphasis on governance and ethics, and a penchant for connecting complex tech trends to everyday consequences.

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