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Decoder with Nilay Patel

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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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My guest today is Lila Snyder, the CEO of Bose. Lila was last on the show about four years ago, and since then she’s dramatically rearchitected the company — she sold off Bose Professional, acquired the high end audio brands McIntosh Labs and Sonus f... more

Our guest today is Gaby Del Valle, a policy reporter here at The Verge, and we’re discussing the growing backlash against AI data centers. Gaby recently reported a fantastic piece about Hernando County, Florida, where last month the county commission... more

Today, I’m talking with Toni Schneider, the new head of social platform Bluesky who formally took over after a short stint as interim CEO. This is one of my favorite kinds of interviews, because a couple years ago we had Bluesky’s prior CEO, Jay Grab... more

Hey everyone, this is Nick Statt, senior producer on Decoder. We’re taking a brief publishing break while Nilay is out on vacation. We’ll resume regular programming next week, and we’ve got some great episodes in the works.

In the meantime, we wante... more

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Recent Guests

Gaby Del Valle
Verge policy reporter
The Verge
Episode: The left and right agree on one thing: no data centers
Charlie Warzel
Staff writer at The Atlantic and author of Galaxy Brain newsletter
The Atlantic
Episode: The end of the human internet
Jill Lepore
Harvard historian, professor of history and law, author
Harvard University, The New Yorker
Episode: Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital for the future
Bart Butler
Chief Technology Officer, Proton
Proton
Episode: Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you
Xinzhou Wu
Head of Automotive, Nvidia
Nvidia
Episode: Yes, even Nvidia's head of automotive is fighting for compute
Ali Berman
Co-head of Creators Division at United Talent Agency
United Talent Agency
Episode: Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Raina Penchansky
Co-head of Creators Division at United Talent Agency
United Talent Agency
Episode: Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Amy Lanzi
CEO of Digitas North America
Digitas North America, Publicis Groupe
Episode: The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi
Roger Dahle
CEO of Weber Blackstone
Weber Blackstone (Weber + Blackstone)
Episode: He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber

Host

Nilay Patel
Host of the show; editor-in-chief at The Verge; long-time tech journalist and interviewer.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
  • Loved the creator economy interview

    I thought this interview did a great job of explaining how the business works from the creators' agents' POV while flagging the threat that AI may pose very soon to creators.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PhillyGirl99
    United Statesa month ago
  • Your chat with Patreon’s CEO

    Straight talking, emotionally intelligent & realist commentary - more guests like this please, Decoder team

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DRBLDN
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • The eyes have it

    I don’t come for the guests or the topics or the tech. I come for the mellifluous voice, his yacht rock vibe and to get lost in his eyes. Oh, and of course, Taylor Swift. She’ll show. A 🧒 can hope?😘😎☺️🙈😏😁😳

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HadMadBadnSadRadGladDad
    United States2 months ago
  • just YouTube shows without video, still great though

    All of the Verge podcasts need a podcast app video option. This one is OK but the other shows have seemingly a dozen (fascinating and well-informed!) people interrupting each other, visual aids, and videos. At least make one available for The Verge subscribers, please, many of us don’t also subscribe to YouTube and find it completely unusable and even offensive.

    This particular podcast has some really great interviews with journalists and experts, and some absolutely infuriating interviews wi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Blizzard1s2d
    United States2 months ago
  • Not Just For Techbros!!

    A podcast that talks about tech with normal people in mind? Who would have imagined such a thing could exist. It is refreshing to hear talk about tech take the social world into account instead of pretending it doesn’t exist. This podcast gives a way better perspective than most tech podcasts. The hosts care about “why” questions and not just bootlicking for billionaires

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    northshorestalker
    United States3 months ago

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Audience appreciates tough, journalism-forward interviews with tech leaders and policymakers.
Some listeners feel recent episodes skew politically; others praise in-depth investigations and edge-case inquiries.
Listeners value accountability and thoughtful critique of AI and platform dynamics.

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#198
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#86
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#115
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#100
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#115
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#150
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Yes, even Nvidia's head of automotive is fighting for compute
Q: What does revenue per mile look like in Nvidia's model for autonomy?
Nvidia envisions a mix of revenue streams, including robotaxi fleets and continued consumer ownership, with potential monetization through a scalable platform that supports both fleet services and in-car AI capabilities.
He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber
Q: How is the merged entity structured in terms of brands and operations?
It's one company with two awesome brands, sharing centers of excellence (Chicago for finance, Logan for certain functions, and a newer Utah headquarters), with product development organized by grill type so both brands can benefit from shared engineering while maintaining brand-specific markets.
Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Q: How do you identify talent early and convince them to partner with your division?
We partner early with talent whose voice and audience are unique, value-building beyond brand deals, and we use a hands-on, collaborative pitch process that emphasizes long-term, multi-faceted opportunities rather than one-off sponsorships.
The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi
Q: Tell me about what you are hearing in these rooms that are leading to these crazy AI promises getting made.
Amy describes a flood of wild pitches and bargain deals in the marketplace, underscoring that many promises about free AI or platforms are not sustainable and that real value comes from disciplined, data-driven approaches and strong partnerships.
Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble
Q: How do you view government tariffs and subsidies affecting Ford's profitability?
He discusses the burden of imported parts tariffs, the need for tariff relief to keep vehicles affordable, and the importance of battery onshoring and battery manufacturing credits to remain competitive with China, while stressing a national-level standard for tailpipe emissions to simplify logistics.

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This show features high-profile tech leaders, policy makers, journalists, and researchers, with deep dives into how AI, platforms, regulation, and business strategy shape tech's future. Episodes frequently center on accountability, safety standards, labor implications, and the monetization of AI, often pairing tough questions with thoughtful context from industry insiders. Noteworthy is the willingness to challenge powerful figures, while keeping a broad lens on society, policy, and real-world impact. Listeners can expect rigorous interviews, a strong emphasis on governance and ethics, and a penchant for connecting complex tech trends to everyday consequences.

A standout aspect is the guest mix: from CEOs and founders to regulators and res... more

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