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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Recent Guests

Hayden Field
The Verge senior AI reporter
The Verge
Episode: The AI industry's existential race for profits
Chuck Robbins
CEO of Cisco
Cisco
Episode: Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
Lauren Feiner
Verge Senior Policy Reporter and court expert
The Verge
Episode: Everyone hates Ticketmaster. Why'd Trump go easy on them?
Shishir Mehrotra
CEO of Superhuman (formerly Grammarly), on the board of directors at Spotify
Superhuman
Episode: Confronting the CEO of the AI company that impersonated me
Rich Greenfield
Co-founder and analyst at LightShed Partners
LightShed Partners
Episode: Paramount's $110 billion Warner Bros. gamble
Jim Lanzone
CEO of Yahoo
Yahoo
Episode: Yahoo CEO Jim Lanzone on reviving the web's homepage
Mike Masnick
Founder and CEO of Techdirt, tech policy analyst
Techdirt
Episode: Anthropic doesn't trust the Pentagon, and neither should you
Helen Havlick
Publisher of The Verge
The Verge
Episode: Anthropic doesn't trust the Pentagon, and neither should you
Chris Cox
CEO of Hasbro
Hasbro
Episode: Hasbro's CEO lets AI Peppa Pig help design toys

Host

Nilay Patel
Editor-in-Chief of The Verge, known for his engaging interviews with decision-makers across technology and business, aiming to uncover deeper societal insights and implications.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 5.5k ratings
  • Not much politics

    Love this show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hukd5
    United Statesa month ago
  • Too much politics

    Is it really that hard to talk about cool tech stuff without injecting politics?

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Murphycj
    United States3 months ago
  • Too much AI slop

    Too big a focus on AI. There are other interesting things happening in tech.

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    SM Miah
    United Kingdom5 months ago
  • As good as it gets

    Nilay is a welcoming and engaging host to some of the most important and/or interesting decision makers in business and government. Illuminating the internal structures and external pressures these corporations and institutions are facing, he‘s asking tough questions that go to the core of a variety of societal concerns. Journalism that deserves the name. Entertaining and revealing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    brilliantcorner
    Germany6 months ago
  • Awesome interrogation of Lexis N guy. They have no guard rails. Best discussion of AI and the law

    Outstanding

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sue fanning
    United Kingdom6 months ago

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Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
Q: How does Cisco view the edge vs data center balance in AI deployments?
Robbins: Expect ongoing growth in both edge and data center compute; distributed architectures and secure connectivity are crucial as AI workloads diversify and move closer to users and devices.
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
Q: What does preparation for space data centers look like at Cisco?
Robbins: Early stages of preparation, focusing on atmospheric conditions, temperatures, and interfaces for satellite technology; engineering teams would assess and iterate before committing to a full program.
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
Q: Should we put data centers in space?
Robbins: Absolutely. He argues that space-based data centers could solve power and community-compatibility issues, given unlimited solar power and no local grid constraints, though there are significant atmospheric and cooling challenges to solve.
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?
Q: What are the policy makers doing in reaction to these verdicts?
Lawmakers are pushing for new safety laws and potential repeal or reform of Section 230, while some argue for a slower, more measured approach; the episode notes significant state-level activity, with federal action still uncertain.
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?
Q: Lauren, at the high level, you were in the room for at least the trial in California. Describe what happened in those trials and what you saw in the courtroom while you were there.
Lauren explains the core issue was whether design decisions, not just content, drove harm; evidence showed extensive internal documents and prominent figures testified, with some settlements in other cases and ongoing implications for how platforms may be regulated.

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