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Decoder with Nilay Patel

The Verge
Artificial Intelligence
Openai
Google
Elon Musk
Generative AI
Microsoft
Donald Trump
Healthcare
Youtube
Trump Administration
Amazon
Anthropic
AI Agents
Chatgpt
First Amendment
Tesla
The Verge
Tiktok
Electric Vehicles
Xbox

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Today, I’m talking with Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who is the world’s best-sourced Apple reporter. Earlier this month, Apple hosted its annual iPhone hardware event, and this event was special, for a number of reasons.

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The biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. The CEOs of all these companies have issued various calls to slow down development and develop regulation, including asking for antitrust exemptions so they c... more

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Recent Guests

Tom Conrad
CEO of Sonos
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Episode: How Sonos rebooted itself
Kathy Hochul
Governor of New York
Office of the Governor of New York
Episode: New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be ‘less evil’
Tim Cadogan
CEO of GoFundMe
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Episode: How GoFundMe became America's backup plan
Robert Hart
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Episode: Welcome to the AI crisis in math
Ben Smith
Editor-in-Chief of Semafor
Semafor
Episode: It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith
Lila Snyder
CEO of Bose
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Episode: Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio
Gaby Del Valle
Verge policy reporter
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Episode: The left and right agree on one thing: no data centers
Toni Schneider
CEO of Bluesky, venture partner at True Ventures
Bluesky, True Ventures
Episode: Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble
Charlie Warzel
Staff writer at The Atlantic and author of Galaxy Brain newsletter
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Episode: The end of the human internet

Host

Nilay Patel
Editor-in-chief of The Verge; host of this show, guiding conversations with policymakers, executives, and industry experts.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
  • Loved the creator economy interview

    I thought this interview did a great job of explaining how the business works from the creators' agents' POV while flagging the threat that AI may pose very soon to creators.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PhillyGirl99
    United States2 months ago
  • Your chat with Patreon’s CEO

    Straight talking, emotionally intelligent & realist commentary - more guests like this please, Decoder team

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DRBLDN
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • The eyes have it

    I don’t come for the guests or the topics or the tech. I come for the mellifluous voice, his yacht rock vibe and to get lost in his eyes. Oh, and of course, Taylor Swift. She’ll show. A 🧒 can hope?😘😎☺️🙈😏😁😳

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HadMadBadnSadRadGladDad
    United States3 months ago
  • just YouTube shows without video, still great though

    All of the Verge podcasts need a podcast app video option. This one is OK but the other shows have seemingly a dozen (fascinating and well-informed!) people interrupting each other, visual aids, and videos. At least make one available for The Verge subscribers, please, many of us don’t also subscribe to YouTube and find it completely unusable and even offensive.

    This particular podcast has some really great interviews with journalists and experts, and some absolutely infuriating interviews wi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Blizzard1s2d
    United States3 months ago
  • Not Just For Techbros!!

    A podcast that talks about tech with normal people in mind? Who would have imagined such a thing could exist. It is refreshing to hear talk about tech take the social world into account instead of pretending it doesn’t exist. This podcast gives a way better perspective than most tech podcasts. The hosts care about “why” questions and not just bootlicking for billionaires

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    northshorestalker
    United States5 months ago

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Listeners appreciate tough, accountability-focused interviews with tech leaders and reporters who challenge industry narratives.
The creator-economy and platform-economy episodes are frequently highlighted as insightful and practical for practitioners.
Some reviews caution about perceived political bias or lengthy ad breaks; feedback on pacing and balance varies.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#79
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#94
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OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner
Q: Explain who Greg Brockman is and why he's becoming a central figure at OpenAI.
He co-founded OpenAI, has long been influential, and through a series of leadership changes and a board crisis, he's taken on day-to-day control of most product lines, effectively becoming the operational heartbeat of the company.
How Sonos rebooted itself
Q: What led to the leadership change at Sonos and how was the transition handled?
The company faced a leadership crisis after the app disaster and the board chose to move on from the previous CEO, with Tom Conrad stepping in as interim CEO and later taking the permanent role. The process involved internal assessment, leadership interviews, and a strategic shift toward focusing on the software platform and system-level opportunities while preserving core hardware strengths.
New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be ‘less evil’
Q: How is the governor's office structured and how are decisions made?
She describes a top-down but input-rich model with a leadership team and agency overseers, emphasizing quick decision-making once facts are tested and inputs are gathered.
How GoFundMe became America's backup plan
Q: Who are the customers, the fundraisers or the donors, and how do you define success?
Both groups are customers; fundraisers initiate campaigns and donors provide the money, but success is measured by how much help is mobilized and how many people are supported, not just by revenue.
Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio
Q: How do you balance licensing Bose technology with maintaining brand integrity across different partners?
Licensing is part of a broader strategy where technology is the core value, and branding is applied selectively based on partner fit; Bose aims to protect its sound signature while leveraging B2B collaborations to expand reach without diluting the Bose brand.

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A thoughtful tech and policy program that surfaces conversations at the intersection of business strategy, regulation, and social impact. Recent episodes center on AI ethics and governance, data privacy, and how big tech, media, and creators navigate shifts in regulation, platform power, and consumer trust. The show often features senior reporters, industry executives, and policymakers who pull back the curtain on how decisions in AI, data, and digital commerce shape everyday life. Notable strengths include rigorous interviewing that challenges power, a newsroom-informed lens on technology's societal implications, and a willingness to cover hard questions facing industry leaders across sectors like advertising, automotive, and media. For po... more

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