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Decoder with Nilay Patel

The Verge
Artificial Intelligence
Openai
Google
Elon Musk
Generative AI
Microsoft
Donald Trump
Healthcare
Trump Administration
Amazon
Youtube
Anthropic
AI Agents
Chatgpt
First Amendment
Tesla
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Electric Vehicles
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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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It’s an election year, with a shocking amount of tech policy at stake, and Gov.Hochul has taken strong positions on almost every major tech issue there is. You'll hear us talk about the settlement Meta reached with dozens of states, including New Yor... more

Today, I’m talking with Hayden Field, The Verge’s senior AI reporter, about some pure Decoder bait: the seemingly-endless org chart changes at OpenAI, and how all of them seem to consolidate power under cofounder Greg Brockman, the company’s presiden... more

Tim Cadogan is CEO of GoFundMe, the for-profit platform where you can donate to help people with everything from medical expenses to little league uniforms to starting a new business.

Tim took over as CEO in March 2020 — a chaotic moment when GoFund... more

My guest today is Robert Hart, The Verge’s London-based AI reporter. Robert recently wrote a fantastic story for us about the debate raging inside the world of mathematics — and the existential crisis over what it means that new frontier AI models ha... more

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Recent Guests

Tim Cadogan
CEO of GoFundMe
GoFundMe
Episode: How GoFundMe became America's backup plan
Robert Hart
London-based AI reporter for The Verge
The Verge
Episode: Welcome to the AI crisis in math
Ben Smith
Editor-in-Chief of Semafor
Semafor
Episode: It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith
Lila Snyder
CEO of Bose
Bose
Episode: Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio
Gaby Del Valle
Verge policy reporter
The Verge
Episode: The left and right agree on one thing: no data centers
Toni Schneider
CEO of Bluesky, venture partner at True Ventures
Bluesky, True Ventures
Episode: Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble
Charlie Warzel
Staff writer at The Atlantic and author of Galaxy Brain newsletter
The Atlantic
Episode: The end of the human internet
Jill Lepore
Harvard historian, professor of history and law, author
Harvard University, The New Yorker
Episode: Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital for the future
Bart Butler
Chief Technology Officer, Proton
Proton
Episode: Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you

Host

Nilay Patel
Editor-in-chief of The Verge; host of this show, guiding conversations with policymakers, executives, and industry experts.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
  • Loved the creator economy interview

    I thought this interview did a great job of explaining how the business works from the creators' agents' POV while flagging the threat that AI may pose very soon to creators.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PhillyGirl99
    United States2 months ago
  • Your chat with Patreon’s CEO

    Straight talking, emotionally intelligent & realist commentary - more guests like this please, Decoder team

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DRBLDN
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • The eyes have it

    I don’t come for the guests or the topics or the tech. I come for the mellifluous voice, his yacht rock vibe and to get lost in his eyes. Oh, and of course, Taylor Swift. She’ll show. A 🧒 can hope?😘😎☺️🙈😏😁😳

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HadMadBadnSadRadGladDad
    United States3 months ago
  • just YouTube shows without video, still great though

    All of the Verge podcasts need a podcast app video option. This one is OK but the other shows have seemingly a dozen (fascinating and well-informed!) people interrupting each other, visual aids, and videos. At least make one available for The Verge subscribers, please, many of us don’t also subscribe to YouTube and find it completely unusable and even offensive.

    This particular podcast has some really great interviews with journalists and experts, and some absolutely infuriating interviews wi... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Blizzard1s2d
    United States3 months ago
  • Not Just For Techbros!!

    A podcast that talks about tech with normal people in mind? Who would have imagined such a thing could exist. It is refreshing to hear talk about tech take the social world into account instead of pretending it doesn’t exist. This podcast gives a way better perspective than most tech podcasts. The hosts care about “why” questions and not just bootlicking for billionaires

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    northshorestalker
    United States4 months ago

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Listeners appreciate tough, accountability-focused interviews with tech leaders and reporters who challenge industry narratives.
The creator-economy and platform-economy episodes are frequently highlighted as insightful and practical for practitioners.
Some reviews caution about perceived political bias or lengthy ad breaks; feedback on pacing and balance varies.

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#145
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How GoFundMe became America's backup plan
Q: Who are the customers, the fundraisers or the donors, and how do you define success?
Both groups are customers; fundraisers initiate campaigns and donors provide the money, but success is measured by how much help is mobilized and how many people are supported, not just by revenue.
Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio
Q: How do you balance licensing Bose technology with maintaining brand integrity across different partners?
Licensing is part of a broader strategy where technology is the core value, and branding is applied selectively based on partner fit; Bose aims to protect its sound signature while leveraging B2B collaborations to expand reach without diluting the Bose brand.
Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio
Q: How is Bose structured today?
Bose now operates with a hybrid structure across four business units, supported by global functions for core engineering, marketing, and supply chain, to serve three brands (Bose, McIntosh, Sonus Faber) and a growing Audio Tech division.
It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith
Q: Why did Semafor pursue an anti-scale model and convening as a core revenue stream?
The founders believed that targeting a specific, elite audience and building a profitable convening business could sustain high-quality journalism without sacrificing independence, contrasting the traditional chase for massive scale through ad-driven models.
It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith
Q: How big is Semafor now and how is it structured?
Semafor has about 60 journalists and more than 100 employees, with a balanced mix of editorial and commercial teams. The company emphasizes a global network and in-house execution across journalism, events, and business operations.

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A thoughtful tech and policy program that surfaces conversations at the intersection of business strategy, regulation, and social impact. Recent episodes center on AI ethics and governance, data privacy, and how big tech, media, and creators navigate shifts in regulation, platform power, and consumer trust. The show often features senior reporters, industry executives, and policymakers who pull back the curtain on how decisions in AI, data, and digital commerce shape everyday life. Notable strengths include rigorous interviewing that challenges power, a newsroom-informed lens on technology's societal implications, and a willingness to cover hard questions facing industry leaders across sectors like advertising, automotive, and media. For po... more

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