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Decoder with Nilay Patel

The Verge
Artificial Intelligence
Openai
Elon Musk
Google
Generative AI
Donald Trump
Microsoft
Youtube
Anthropic
Trump Administration
AI Agents
Amazon
Chatgpt
Healthcare
Tiktok
The Verge
Xbox
Private Equity
First Amendment
Journalism

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Today, I’m joined by Joey Brookhart, an analyst at the chip and AI research firm SemiAnalysis, to help me dig into the story inside the massive Anthropic IPO filing.

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My guest today is Kevin Roose, a journalist and author of the new book The AGI Chronicles. Kevin was a longtime New York Times reporter and host of the popular podcast Hard Fork, but he and friend of the show Casey Newton just left The Times to start... more

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My guest today is Bill Gates, co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft and chairman of the Gates Foundation. You may have noticed Bill in the news more lately — he’s been on something of a tour for the past few months talking about AI risk, and how cru... more

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Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, has a lot of thoughts about AI, tech, and privacy. Those issues are driving a big and maybe kind of unexpected political realignment — and with the midterms coming up next month, and early voting already underway in a lot ... more

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Recent Guests

Joey Brookhart
Analyst at SemiAnalysis and co-lead of its tokenomics model.
SemiAnalysis
Episode: Inside Anthropic’s trillion-dollar AI gamble
Kevin Roose
Journalist, author of The AGI Chronicles, and co-founder and co-host of Machine Gods
Machine Gods
Episode: Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren't you?
Bill Gates
Co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft and chairman of the Gates Foundation
Gates Foundation
Episode: Bill Gates says to prepare for 20 years of ‘tumultuous’ AI disruption
JB Pritzker
Governor of Illinois and former businessman
State of Illinois
Episode: JB Pritzker thinks AI could help us live to 100 — or threaten us like nukes
Walter Piecyk
Telecom analyst and partner at LightShed Partners
LightShed Partners
Episode: Why Elon Musk wants to sell you cell service
Benn Jordan
Musician, YouTuber, researcher, and investigative journalist
Episode: Benn Jordan thinks the surveillance problem is much bigger than Flock
Ronan Farrow
Investigative journalist, The New Yorker contributor
The New Yorker
Episode: Rewind: Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstrained’ relationship with the truth
Peter Kafka
Chief Correspondent at Business Insider and host of the Channels Podcast
Business Insider
Episode: Another billionaire thinks he can fix Warner Bros.
Hayden Field
The Verge's senior AI reporter
The Verge
Episode: OpenAI has a Muse problem

Host

Nilay Patel
Editor-in-chief of The Verge; host of this show, guiding conversations with policymakers, executives, and industry experts.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
  • Your hard hitting Democrat left leaning interview left a lot unasked. You come across as this I ask tough questions unless it is a Democrat you want to see reelected.

    Podcast Addict
    3
    polwig
    15 days ago
  • Ethics and Tech Coverage

    I love Decoder for many reasons, but most because of the intensity behind The Verge’s ethics policy. Knowing that the opinions and coverage will be authentic and driven by motives other than ad dollars is so valuable.

    Aside from that, the Tech industry coverage is surprisingly broad and very high quality. Nilay is an incredible host.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Aurorkouzuki
    United Statesa month ago
  • Loved the creator economy interview

    I thought this interview did a great job of explaining how the business works from the creators' agents' POV while flagging the threat that AI may pose very soon to creators.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PhillyGirl99
    United States4 months ago
  • Your chat with Patreon’s CEO

    Straight talking, emotionally intelligent & realist commentary - more guests like this please, Decoder team

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DRBLDN
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • The eyes have it

    I don’t come for the guests or the topics or the tech. I come for the mellifluous voice, his yacht rock vibe and to get lost in his eyes. Oh, and of course, Taylor Swift. She’ll show. A 🧒 can hope?😘😎☺️🙈😏😁😳

    Apple Podcasts
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    HadMadBadnSadRadGladDad
    United States5 months ago

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Listeners appreciate tough, accountability-focused interviews with tech leaders and reporters who challenge industry narratives.
The creator-economy and platform-economy episodes are frequently highlighted as insightful and practical for practitioners.
Some reviews caution about perceived political bias or lengthy ad breaks; feedback on pacing and balance varies.

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#77
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#74
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#148
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#190
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Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren't you?
Q: If it's so dangerous, why are you doing it?
Roose says AI leaders often view development as inevitable and argue that trusted companies should build it first; some believe it can produce major benefits, while others are motivated by the challenge and enjoyment of the work.
Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren't you?
Q: What made you take the leap?
Roose says he wants to make YouTube and video journalism sustainable, experiment with new formats, and build in a media environment where he sees less competition than in text or podcasts.
Inside Anthropic’s trillion-dollar AI gamble
Q: Do you see them generating the revenues to pay off those commitments?
Brookhart expects revenue to scale enough to support the compute commitments, while noting that the outcome depends on continued compute efficiency, customer adoption, and how much capacity Anthropic devotes to training.
Inside Anthropic’s trillion-dollar AI gamble
Q: Where does the money come from to support Anthropic's ambition of reaching a trillion dollars in revenue?
Brookhart says growth would have to come from broader enterprise adoption and new verticals beyond coding, including cybersecurity and biotechnology, as well as AI augmenting or replacing white-collar work.
Benn Jordan thinks the surveillance problem is much bigger than Flock
Q: What is your relationship with Flock like now? Do you think it's changed how you view and evaluate the company?
Jordan says some employees dislike him, but he has spoken with the CEO and executives who are willing to discuss solutions. He reports vulnerabilities directly and believes solving the wider problem requires listening and setting guardrails, not simply driving Flock out of business.

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A thoughtful tech and policy program that surfaces conversations at the intersection of business strategy, regulation, and social impact. Recent episodes center on AI ethics and governance, data privacy, and how big tech, media, and creators navigate shifts in regulation, platform power, and consumer trust. The show often features senior reporters, industry executives, and policymakers who pull back the curtain on how decisions in AI, data, and digital commerce shape everyday life. Notable strengths include rigorous interviewing that challenges power, a newsroom-informed lens on technology's societal implications, and a willingness to cover hard questions facing industry leaders across sectors like advertising, automotive, and media. For po... more

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