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Co-Living
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Property Management
Passive Income
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Coliving
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Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, ​ strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and exec... more

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Latest Episodes

The Co-Living Insurance Gap (and How to Fix It) | ft. Matthew Osman

Co-living is growing fast—but insurance hasn’t caught up.

In this episode, we sit down with Matthew Osman, a co-living realtor and operator who’s been working on one of the most ov... more

In this episode of The Co-Living Show, we sit down with Franco Montano, a seasoned operator managing 600+ co-living rooms (and owning 150+ himself), to break down what it actually takes to scale a co-living portfolio.

Franco shares how he transition... more

The Co-Living Lending Playbook: How Smart Investors Structure Deals

Financing is the part of co-living that most investors underestimate… until a deal almost falls apart.

In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit d... more

In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Alfredo Goytia, a co-living operator who scaled from 0 to 800 doors in just 12 months.

This is not theory—this is real-world execution.

Alfredo breaks down exactl... more

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Recent Guests

Franco Montano
Co-Living operator and real estate investor
Highest Management (co-living portfolio manager)
Episode: EP 11 - From 0 to 600+ Rooms: How Franco Scaled Co-Living Across the U.S.
Jessica Khani
Mortgage broker and real estate investor
Homes with Jessica Khani
Episode: EP 10 - The Co-Living Lending Playbook: How Smart Investors Structure Deals (Most Miss This)
Alfredo Goytia
Co-Living operator and property manager with rapid scale in Texas
Self-managed co-living portfolio
Episode: EP 9 - How Alfredo Scaled to 800 Co-Living Doors in 12 Months (Systems, Ops & Strategy)
Jordan Smith
Co-living operator featured on the episode
Co-Living Operator, Denver/Philly area
Episode: EP 6 - The Co-Living Operator’s Secret Weapon: Systems, Automation, and Scale
Harrison DeMaira
Operator of large multifamily co-living and furnished housing; former director at Common Living
Visual Property Management / Etsyco Management
Episode: EP 4 - 500 Rooms. One Strategy: How Harrison Scales Co-Living in 100+ Unit Buildings
Tanner Pyle
Colorado Springs real estate investor and agent with co-living experience
Colorado Springs real estate market
Episode: EP 3 - How Tanner Bought a $1.3M Property With Just $5K Down
Caitlyn Verdugo
Real estate agent, investor, and operator specializing in co-living.
Episode: EP 2 - CoLiving Cait: The Systems, The Stories, The Reality
Jim Boad
Real estate investor specializing in sober living homes
Group Home Accelerator
Episode: Episode 263 - Real Estate With Purpose: Building Sober Living Homes & Grants Explained with Jim Boad
Yoni Kaszynski
Real estate investor and house hacker
Personal investor
Episode: Episode 262 - Yoni Kaszynski’s Scrappy House Hack Playbook in Seattle–Tacoma: $623,000 Triplex, $6,300 Gross, Camper Hack, 5% Down, Pierce County ADU Puzzles, and More

Hosts

Craig Curelop
Co-host focused on acquisitions, underwriting, and market strategy with a background as a real estate investor and educator.
Miller McSwain
Co-host implementing operations, pricing systems, and standardization frameworks to scale co-living.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 201 ratings
  • Warning: May Cause Passive Income

    Listening to Invest2Fi is like finding out your broke uncle suddenly became a millionaire—except instead of awkward Thanksgiving advice, you actually learn how to build wealth. The host is smart, funny, and somehow make talking about loans and leverage feel like shotgunning a beer at a frat party… except you come out richer. 10/10 would recommend—unless you enjoy staying broke, in which case, stick to TikTok.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Nikkijames1
    United States8 months ago
  • Great podcast

    Great podcast for a beginner or seasoned real estate investor!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RentecNate
    United Statesa year ago
  • 10/10

    Just an amazing podcast with a ton of actionable insights from Craig and his guests. I’m in the beginning phases of my journey to financial independence learned a ton from this show that I’ll use to help get

    me there. Highly recommended.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TonyNYK
    United Statesa year ago
  • Listen to this Podcast!

    Craig is one of the smartest most genuine people out there. If you want to elevate your investing career, this is the place you need to be!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Nathan Robbins
    United Statesa year ago
  • Amazing Podcasts and Guests

    Craig is awesome! Love listening to his podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jakebaker.re
    United Statesa year ago

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Guests consistently provide practical, implementable strategies rather than hype.
Show is valued for its deep-dive, operator-focused conversations on co-living.
Listeners praise actionable insights and clear systems for real estate growth.

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EP 9 - How Alfredo Scaled to 800 Co-Living Doors in 12 Months (Systems, Ops & Strategy)
Q: What's one tool or system you use in your business that you couldn't live without?
Claude AI serves as a right-hand employee for drafting responses, creating flyers, coding tasks, and brainstorming features, enabling rapid product and process development with strong automation and coding capabilities.
EP 8 - Co-Living Operations Explained: Lessons from Managing 400+ Rooms
Q: Under what conditions should someone consider PadSplit versus off-path split, especially for a first property?
Dave suggests PadSplit works well when there is a strong pipeline or connection to a specific audience (e.g., veterans, military bases) and mass-market demand, whereas off-path split can be viable if a clear, scalable pipeline exists and you can standardize processes across markets.
EP 8 - Co-Living Operations Explained: Lessons from Managing 400+ Rooms
Q: What immediate systems should a first-time co-living operator set up in their first property?
Dave advises starting with reliable locks, then upgrading to more scalable systems like CYFLY for remote access and standardized SOPs, while planning for ongoing vendor management and a robust floor plan; furniture decisions should align with occupancy goals and platform requirements.
EP 7 - From $400K Loss to Millions: The Co-Living Lending Comeback Story
Q: What loan product would you recommend for a W2 employee looking to start co-living with a fourplex and house-hack?
Use a primary residence loan with 3.5% down for a fourplex, house-hack the unit you inhabit, and convert the rest into co-living spaces for higher cash flow; this leverages owner-occupied financing to maximize units under one loan.
EP 3 - How Tanner Bought a $1.3M Property With Just $5K Down
Q: What is your current focus and what's next for you?
My focus is scaling a co-living portfolio and exploring self-storage as a broader real estate play, while continuing to work as an agent and pursuing off-market opportunities that fit co-living criteria.

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This show focuses on co-living as a scalable, data-driven real estate strategy. Episodes explore deal structures, regulatory considerations, operations, and market analysis for high-density, room-by-room rental models. Listeners get practical frameworks—from underwriting and tenant strategy to zoning and design—delivered by experienced operators and investors who share actionable lessons, real-world case studies, and systems that turn co-living into a repeatable business. Noteworthy is the emphasis on moving beyond hype to a disciplined, businesslike approach, with guests who bring hands-on expertise in co-living management, financing, and growth through partnerships.

A standout aspect is the blend of operator-centric insight with educator... more

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2. Jessica Khani
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5. Harrison DeMaira
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