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HORSE, FIRST - with Lockie Phillips

Lockie Phillips
Emotional Horsemanship
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Equestrian Industry
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Yes, but let's put the horse first! Taking a clear, ethical stance on horsemanship without judgement. We are observant, humble, clear eyed, regulated and deeply respectful of our equine partners. This podcast is not: Not human self-help using horses as metaphors Not romantic liberty training mythology Not moral superiority Not training evangelism This podcast is: Deep listening Thoughtful question... more

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Can horses get too much of a "good" thing?  In our effort to be ethical have we become blind to the stressors we place on a horses capacities when they live in perpetual turn-out?

I wrote a difficult post that went viral online and this podcast I re... more

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In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by horsewoman, educator, and movement specialist Jillian Kreinbring for a thoughtful conversation about the evolution of horsemans... more

A conversation about confidence, community, thoughtful training, and the next chapter of Emotional Horsemanship. From my first UK clinics to the launch of Homecoming 4.0, this episode explores why sequencing, training plans and purposeful practice ar... more

In this special episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips reads a chapter from his forthcoming book exploring the origins of his professional objection to whips.

Part memoir, part reflection on horsemanship, this chapter traces the early experiences t... more

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Recent Guests

Jillian Kreinbring
Expert in classical horsemanship, functional anatomy, and neuroanatomy
Independent researcher/faculty in equine movement and posture
Episode: The Future Isn't Anti-Tradition (With Jillian Kreinbring, M.S.)
Kim Hallin
Horsewoman and team thinker, focused on the future of horses and systems
Unbridled LLC / kimhallin.com
Episode: The End of Horse Ownership as We Know It (with Kim Hallin)
Remy Burley
Canadian horse trainer specializing in operant conditioning and clicker training
Reflective Equine
Episode: Clickers, Culture, and Common Ground (With Remy Burley)
Cat Roy Stanley
Horse trainer, high school teacher, equestrian relationship coach
Independent / UK clinics
Episode: The Internship Effect (Cat Roy Stanley)
Hayley Josephs
Horse woman, former jeweller, Mustang owner, and teaching team member
Teaching Team (Horsemanship)
Episode: Mustangs, Mistakes, and Becoming
Lori Halliday
Longtime collaborator on Horse First; stepping into Emotional Horsemanship teaching team
Horse and Heart, Santa Cruz Mountains, California
Episode: The Underground Railroad of Being Horse First (With Lori Halliday)
Leslie Desmond
Pioneer in modern horsemanship, studied and documented horse-training traditions
Worked with Bill Dorrance; associated with faquero tradition
Episode: Horsemanship Must Evolve (with Leslie Desmond)
Amanda Held
Horsewoman working at the intersection of therapeutic horsemanship and horse behavior
EH School / Hooves program
Episode: Who Is Taking Care of the Therapy Horse? (With Amanda Held)
Becks Nairn
Equine dissectionist, educator, and longtime advocate based in New Zealand
Emotional Horsemanship
Episode: The Cost of Ignoring the Body (with Becks Nairn)

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Lockie Phillips
Host of the show, guiding conversations and explorations of horsemanship philosophy

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 182 ratings
  • I Appreciate You

    I look forward to doing my barn chores every day with your voice in my back pocket. I’ll be sad when I have reached the end of all the episodes and will have to wait a week for the next. Thank you for your dedication to all of us going through a period of reform. Your message is important, you are important and you convinced me my voice is more important than ever in fighting the good fight.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Blake’s Pony Farm
    United States3 months ago
  • Feels like sharing your story

    This episode was hard to listen… when I was a child I also experienced some horrible stories in riding schools so I stopped riding for a long time.

    At the age of 60 I bought my first own horse 🦄❤️ and I am working as an osteopath with horses and dogs, hoping to give something back, for all the kindness and love I experienced with them through my whole life!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Marsipulami
    Germany9 months ago
  • Puts Horses First

    Lockie’s depth of knowledge and genuine care for horses make him a rare treasure in the equestrian world. This podcast is essential listening for anyone committed to improving their partnership and practices with horses.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jenloveshorses4ever
    United Statesa year ago
  • Well worth a listen

    I have thoroughly enjoyed many of Lockie‘s podcasts. I just finished one in particular with he and his guest Louise that I thought was such a great representation of respectful, thorough and analytical sharing between two professionals. So many great subjects that resonate strongly with me throughout all the podcast. And so many great guests!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SRHLusitano
    United Statesa year ago
  • Finally

    Locke is everything the horse world is missing. In an industry that often feels rushed, image-obsessed, and disconnected from the horse, this podcast is a breath of fresh air. It goes back to the basics — honoring the horse as a partner, not just a performer. What makes Locke stand out is his honesty. He openly shares what he’s gotten right, what he’s gotten wrong, and how he’s learning through it. In the clinic, teaching, and learning space, it’s rare to find someone so grounded in true horsema... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    iValerie
    United Statesa year ago

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The host's depth of knowledge and care for horses stands out, making it essential listening for ethical horsemanship.
Quality guests and rigorous, compassionate discussions have consistently earned positive reception from the audience.
Listeners appreciate thoughtful, well-structured questions that invite guests to share both expertise and lived experience.

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Clickers, Culture, and Common Ground (With Remy Burley)
Q: How has your personal identity informed your approach to horse training and collaboration with Remy?
Identity shapes perception and practice; by sharing my experiences as a trans man, I aim to illuminate how lived experience influences timing, consent, and the pace of training, while maintaining a strong commitment to humane, relationship-centered horsemanship.
Clickers, Culture, and Common Ground (With Remy Burley)
Q: Why do you think there is reticence around discussing clicker training publicly, and how would you describe your stance to a new listener?
The reticence stems from a history of ethical and verbal attacks from parts of the clicker community; my stance is nuanced: I value food rewards and clicker training, acknowledge its limits, and advocate for clear, civil dialogue and safety for both horses and people.
Feels Like the Future of Advocacy with Shelby Dennis
Q: How do you envision the future of advocacy in the horse industry?
I see it leading towards a renaissance period where more empathy and ethical considerations are adopted in training and competition practices.
Feels Like the Future of Advocacy with Shelby Dennis
Q: What do you do and how do you do it?
I train horses professionally as an IAABC certified equine behavior consultant and I've become very involved in welfare advocacy, aiming to improve horse welfare particularly in competitive sports.
Feels Like a Raw First Draft with Emily Frost
Q: What is one thing today if you had the power to do so to take something out of the equestrian industry, what would you use that power to do?
The need to grow up so damn fast.

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A thoughtful, ethics-forward discussion around horsemanship, prioritizing the horse as the authority in training and partnership. Episodes frequently explore humane practices, pedagogy, and systemic change in the horse world, highlighting how science, compassion, and community shape safer, more effective relationships between humans and horses. Notable threads include reframing safety through consent and dialogue, critiquing traditional training models, and spotlighting guest perspectives from researchers, clinicians, and experienced coaches who advocate for sustainable, horse-centered approaches. Listeners are likely drawn to nuanced conversations that balance technique with welfare, and to show formats that emphasize humility, critical th... more

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