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The Divine Council Worldview Podcast

Dr. Ronn Johnson
Divine Council Worldview
Yahweh
Genesis
Jesus
Divine Council
Abraham
Christianity
Jacob
The Divine Council Worldview
Isaac
Old Testament
Michael S. Heiser
Judaism
Theology
Salvation
Esau
Joseph
John 5
Dr. Michael S. Heiser
Faith

Welcome to the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, where hosts Ronn Johnson and Mike Chu honor the legacy of their late friend and colleague Dr. Michael S. Heiser (author of the best-selling book The Unseen Realm). Our interest is the Bible, studying it through the lens of its original authors and audience. We will specifically take notice of created divine beings and the role they play in the physi... more

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In this episode, Ronn and Mike explore John 19, focusing on the crucifixion of Jesus, its historical and theological significance, and the archaeological insights into the location of Golgotha. They analyze the biblical narrative, its fulfillment of ... more

What if biblical geography is theology? Scott from Blk Shp Bible Talk unpacks Jesus' crossing into Gentile territory, Legion, spiritual warfare, and the cosmic geography of Mark's Gospel—then connects the Exodus, plagues, archaeology, and Egypt's dec... more

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In this episode of the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, Ronn and Mike delve into various theological questions, exploring the concepts of theosis and deification, the significance of Jesus' first miracle of turning water into wine, the humor present... more

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In this episode of the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, Ronn and Mike engage in a deep exploration of the concept of theosis, comparing its interpretations in Eastern Orthodoxy and Mormonism. They discuss the implications of salvation as a transform... more

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Recent Guests

Anthony Diastello
Guest, game designer of Allies of Majesty
Allies of Majesty / Chronicles
Episode: EP112: Exploring Allies of Majesty RPG
Emmanuel Dania
Pastor/evangelist from Nigeria who shares street ministry experiences
Independent ministry
Episode: EP104: Inside Supernatural Encounters in Nigeria with Emmanuel Dania
Drenna Heiser-Hollander
President of Michael S. Heiser Foundation
Michael S. Heiser Foundation
Episode: EP100: Celebrating Legacy: Drenna Heiser-Hollander on Michael Heiser's Journey
Sandra Alex
Translator and friend of Dr. Heiser, passionate about sharing theological insights in Portuguese.
Michael S. Heiser Foundation
Episode: EP092: Beyond Knowledge: When Theology Meets Real Life
Curt Ferrell
Works for the Indiana Department of Correction overseeing faith-based programs.
Indiana Department of Correction
Episode: EP088: Discipleship Beyond the Walls and Behind Bars
Jeff Lees
An artist and youth minister who transitioned from skepticism to embracing faith through art and theological exploration
Episode: EP056: From Skeptic to Storyteller: Jeff Lees on Faith, Art, and Reimagining the Image of God
Jeremy Keys
Pastor of Advanced Church and Director at Calgary Dream Center
Advanced Church, Calgary Dream Center
Episode: EP050: Healing, Faith & The Unseen Realm: A Pastor's Journey from Trauma to Transformation
Dr. Natalie Atwell
Private counselor and adjunct professor
Liberty University
Episode: EP032: Armor Up: Dr. Natalie Atwell's Journey in Counseling, Missions, and Spiritual Warfare
Anthony Delgado
Pastor at Palmdale Church and author of The Gospel Is Bigger Than You Think.
Palmdale Church
Episode: EP024: Christus Victor and the Divine Council: A Church's Journey in Palmdale, CA

Hosts

Ronn Johnson
Host with Mike Chu; long-standing voice guiding DCW discussions, often referencing Michael S. Heiser Foundation and Divine Council concepts.
Mike Chu
Co-host driving most discussions with Ronn, often drawing on scholarly DCW resources and background in Heiser's work.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 437 ratings
  • Jesus is Yahweh

    I have to reduce my rating. I have a critique. Jesus is Yahweh. I think that’s clear with many passages that refer to Yahweh in the Old Testament that the New Testament authors use to refer to Jesus. Especially in the book of revelation.. Maybe I heard you wrong Ronn but it seemed like you said that Jesus is sent by Yahweh, but he’s not Yahweh. This pains me because I love the divine council worldview, but not a view that says Jesus is not Yahweh.

    That was episode 36 “The Two Powers in heaven” more

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    Bfwteacher
    United States10 months ago
  • New to DCW? Don’t start here!

    If you are new to the Divine council worldview, don’t start by listening to this podcast. Start with the naked Bible podcast by Michael Heiser he is the one who brought the Divine Council world view to the attention of non scholars.

    You should start with the best scholarship possible when delving into this and while I like Ronn Johnson and he was a guest on the naked Bible podcast his scholarship and understanding of the divine council worldview and the ancient near eastern world in general pal... more

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    paulnevi
    United Statesa year ago
  • Thank you so much for this content! Heiser's work changed my life for the better and I greatly appreciate this podcast continuing to further biblical education and critical thinking. Keep up the good work!

    Audible
    5
    Kendra Conway
    United Statesa year ago
  • Love it!

    Thank you so much for this content! Heiser's work changed my life for the better and I greatly appreciate this podcast continuing to further biblical education and critical thinking. Keep up the good work!

    Audible
    5
    Kendra Conway
    United Statesa year ago
  • Insightful

    Thank you for this great resource

    Apple Podcasts
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    NavySteve87!
    United Statesa year ago

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Thoughtful, scholarly debate with accessible explanations.
Positive reception of DCW lens, some calls for broader platform distribution (e.g., YouTube).
Listeners value preserving Dr. Heiser's legacy while engaging new topics.

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EP114: Theosis, the Incarnation & Idols (Q&A #21)
Q: David asks about idols and their power in the biblical narrative; do idols have power?
The discussion covers historical practice of idols as localized manifestations of spiritual beings, the dangers of idolatry, and the way biblical writers acknowledge power behind idols while ultimately directing worship to Yahweh, plus the idea that people can attribute power to idols regardless of their real ontological status.
EP114: Theosis, the Incarnation & Idols (Q&A #21)
Q: Hunter asks about Jesus' humor as described in Elton Trueblood's book; how does humor fit into the Incarnation?
They summarize Trueblood's view that Jesus used humor, exaggeration, and relatable humanity as a teaching tool, showing that humor can illuminate truth and counter pretension, while also being attractive to ordinary people.
EP114: Theosis, the Incarnation & Idols (Q&A #21)
Q: First question, Nathan asks, why did Jesus turn water into wine?
The hosts discuss that Jesus' statement about the hour not being yet come points to timing and Jesus' larger redemptive plan; the miracle is framed as a sign pointing to his glory, with Mary's expectation and cultural context shaping the moment rather than a straightforward command.
EP112: Exploring Allies of Majesty RPG
Q: How does the storytelling structure of the prologue and Thomas's doubt function in teaching the Divine Council concepts?
Thomas serves as a reader's surrogate in a dynamic exchange with an Elohim guide, allowing questions about God's integrity and the material to emerge naturally, rather than through long didactic sermons, thereby making theological exploration more organic and immersive.
EP112: Exploring Allies of Majesty RPG
Q: What's the premises of the Allies of Majesty game, and how does it relate to the Divine Council Worldview?
The game is a storytelling system where players role-play as loyal Elohim who influence human affairs from behind the scenes, blending biblical imagery with Near Eastern myth to explore questions about authority, angels, and how God interacts with creation.

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Listeners engage with a rigorous, scripture-focused discussion of divine beings, creation, and Yahweh's cosmos through a Divine Council worldview. Episodes consistently thread verse-by-verse exegesis with broad biblical theology, ancient Near Eastern context, and debates about monotheit, deity, and Christology. The show often blends scholarly references with accessible explanations and practical faith reflections, making it appealing to serious Bible students, clergy, and educators seeking a DCW-informed perspective. A notable strength is carrying a late scholar's legacy forward, while maintaining approachable dialogue and ongoing exploration of complex topics like the Two Powers doctrine, Spirit, and covenantal life.

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