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The Divine Council Worldview Podcast

Dr. Ronn Johnson
Divine Council Worldview
Yahweh
Genesis
Jesus
Divine Council
Abraham
Christianity
Jacob
The Divine Council Worldview
Isaac
Old Testament
Michael S. Heiser
Judaism
Theology
Salvation
Esau
Joseph
John 5
Dr. Michael S. Heiser
Faith

Welcome to the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, where hosts Ronn Johnson and Mike Chu honor the legacy of their late friend and colleague Dr. Michael S. Heiser (author of the best-selling book The Unseen Realm). Our interest is the Bible, studying it through the lens of its original authors and audience. We will specifically take notice of created divine beings and the role they play in the physi... more

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In this episode of the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, Ronn and Mike engage in a deep exploration of the concept of theosis, comparing its interpretations in Eastern Orthodoxy and Mormonism. They discuss the implications of salvation as a transform... more

Angels, Watchers, divine councils, and holy imagination collide in this conversation with Anthony Diastello. Through his game "Allies of Majesty", we explore how biblical stories, DCW, and Christian fantasy can open fresh ways to understand the Spiri... more

In this episode of the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, hosts Ron Johnson and Mike Chu engage in a thought-provoking discussion on theological questions submitted by listeners. The conversation begins with an exploration of the concept of atonement,... more

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In this episode of the Divine Council Worldview podcast, Ronn & Mike delve into John 18, exploring the final hours of Jesus' life. They discuss the transition from the high priestly prayer in John 17 to the events leading to Jesus' arrest, the signif... more

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Recent Guests

Emmanuel Dania
Pastor/evangelist from Nigeria who shares street ministry experiences
Independent ministry
Episode: EP104: Inside Supernatural Encounters in Nigeria with Emmanuel Dania
Drenna Heiser-Hollander
President of Michael S. Heiser Foundation
Michael S. Heiser Foundation
Episode: EP100: Celebrating Legacy: Drenna Heiser-Hollander on Michael Heiser's Journey
Sandra Alex
Translator and friend of Dr. Heiser, passionate about sharing theological insights in Portuguese.
Michael S. Heiser Foundation
Episode: EP092: Beyond Knowledge: When Theology Meets Real Life
Curt Ferrell
Works for the Indiana Department of Correction overseeing faith-based programs.
Indiana Department of Correction
Episode: EP088: Discipleship Beyond the Walls and Behind Bars
Anthony Diastello
Creator of the tabletop role-playing game 'Allies of Majesty'
Episode: EP076: Gaming the Unseen Realm: Faith and Fantasy in Allies of Majesty
Matthew Bates
Professor of New Testament and author of 'Beyond the Salvation Wars'
Northern Seminary
Episode: EP059: Interview w/Dr. Matthew Bates on "Beyond the Salvation Wars"
Jeff Lees
An artist and youth minister who transitioned from skepticism to embracing faith through art and theological exploration
Episode: EP056: From Skeptic to Storyteller: Jeff Lees on Faith, Art, and Reimagining the Image of God
Jeremy Keys
Pastor of Advanced Church and Director at Calgary Dream Center
Advanced Church, Calgary Dream Center
Episode: EP050: Healing, Faith & The Unseen Realm: A Pastor's Journey from Trauma to Transformation
Dr. Natalie Atwell
Private counselor and adjunct professor
Liberty University
Episode: EP032: Armor Up: Dr. Natalie Atwell's Journey in Counseling, Missions, and Spiritual Warfare

Hosts

Ronn Johnson
Host with Mike Chu; long-standing voice guiding DCW discussions, often referencing Michael S. Heiser Foundation and Divine Council concepts.
Mike Chu
Co-host driving most discussions with Ronn, often drawing on scholarly DCW resources and background in Heiser's work.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 437 ratings
  • Jesus is Yahweh

    I have to reduce my rating. I have a critique. Jesus is Yahweh. I think that’s clear with many passages that refer to Yahweh in the Old Testament that the New Testament authors use to refer to Jesus. Especially in the book of revelation.. Maybe I heard you wrong Ronn but it seemed like you said that Jesus is sent by Yahweh, but he’s not Yahweh. This pains me because I love the divine council worldview, but not a view that says Jesus is not Yahweh.

    That was episode 36 “The Two Powers in heaven” more

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    Bfwteacher
    United States10 months ago
  • New to DCW? Don’t start here!

    If you are new to the Divine council worldview, don’t start by listening to this podcast. Start with the naked Bible podcast by Michael Heiser he is the one who brought the Divine Council world view to the attention of non scholars.

    You should start with the best scholarship possible when delving into this and while I like Ronn Johnson and he was a guest on the naked Bible podcast his scholarship and understanding of the divine council worldview and the ancient near eastern world in general pal... more

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    paulnevi
    United States10 months ago
  • Thank you so much for this content! Heiser's work changed my life for the better and I greatly appreciate this podcast continuing to further biblical education and critical thinking. Keep up the good work!

    Audible
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    Kendra Conway
    United Statesa year ago
  • Love it!

    Thank you so much for this content! Heiser's work changed my life for the better and I greatly appreciate this podcast continuing to further biblical education and critical thinking. Keep up the good work!

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    Kendra Conway
    United Statesa year ago
  • Insightful

    Thank you for this great resource

    Apple Podcasts
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    NavySteve87!
    United Statesa year ago

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Thoughtful, scholarly debate with accessible explanations.
Positive reception of DCW lens, some calls for broader platform distribution (e.g., YouTube).
Listeners value preserving Dr. Heiser's legacy while engaging new topics.

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EP102: Q&A Session #17
Q: What is the DCW stance on the phrase 'the Righteous One' in Acts and 1 John 2:1?
They explain that the phrase 'the Righteous One' is best understood as a title denoting loyalty to Yahweh, not a doctrinal imputation of righteousness. Jesus is portrayed as the faithful one, with the term used to highlight his loyalty and vindication, while noting the difference between moral perfection and faithful loyalty in Old Testament usage.
EP102: Q&A Session #17
Q: Is Psalm 45 verse 6 referring to Jesus?
The hosts acknowledge that Psalm 45 is traditionally seen as referring to Jesus in Christian interpretation, but they discuss the possibility that the author originally wrote with a coming Messiah in mind, allowing the text to develop its messianic sense without forcing a NT-framework onto the Psalm.
EP103: Q&A Session #18
Q: What is the significance of the intertestamental period for understanding Matthew 1 and the coming of Jesus?
Understanding the intertestamental period clarifies the expectations and tensions surrounding the Messiah, the Messiah's lineage, and how Jewish readers would interpret Jesus' emergence within a history of prophecy, exile, and restoration.
EP103: Q&A Session #18
Q: Was God silent during the intertestamental period, or were there ongoing prophetic activities and historical acts shaping the environment for the New Testament?
The hosts argue that God was not silent; there were significant acts and developments—oral traditions, the Maccabean Revolt, rise of rabbis and synagogues, and apocalyptic literature—that provided a rich backdrop for Jesus and the Gospel writers.
EP103: Q&A Session #18
Q: Would you be willing to think of Joseph in Genesis 35 or 37 through 50 as a partial fulfillment of the promises made to Abraham?
Yes, the discussion frames Joseph as a key conduit, showing how the Abrahamic blessing extends through his life and sustains the family through famine, eventually enabling the tribal inheritance and the spread of blessing to Egypt and beyond.

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Listeners engage with a rigorous, scripture-focused discussion of divine beings, creation, and Yahweh's cosmos through a Divine Council worldview. Episodes consistently thread verse-by-verse exegesis with broad biblical theology, ancient Near Eastern context, and debates about monotheit, deity, and Christology. The show often blends scholarly references with accessible explanations and practical faith reflections, making it appealing to serious Bible students, clergy, and educators seeking a DCW-informed perspective. A notable strength is carrying a late scholar's legacy forward, while maintaining approachable dialogue and ongoing exploration of complex topics like the Two Powers doctrine, Spirit, and covenantal life.

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