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The Deal with Animals with Marika S. Bell

Marika S. Bell
Animal Welfare
Animal Communication
Animal Behavior
Dog Training
Animal Advocacy
Dogs
Human-Animal Connection
Dog Behavior
Chickens
Sex and Animals
Animal Reproduction
Human Intervention
Aggression
Emotional Connection
Animal Consciousness
Mother Cow
Ethics
Predation Behavior
Veganism
Animals

Humans interact with animals every day of our lives: diet, wildlife, clothes and even medicines, are all intersections we often don’t think about. This is a podcast about the interactions and connections between humans and non-human animals. Our mission is to make research more accessible to the public while sharing the voices and lived experience of our human connection with animals.

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes170Founded5 years ago
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Episode 6 of Series 16: The Captivity Conversation- Transcript

Dogs live under profound human control and their wellbeing depends on how we understand their agency, sensory world, and autonomy. This conversation asks us to observe our dogs like eth... more

Episode 5 of Series 16: The Captivity Conversation- Transcript

Victoria Stilwell joins me to talk about how we shape dogs’ lives through training, communication, and the choices that determine whether they feel safe, understood, and able to express ... more

Episode 5 looks outward: how to apply the psychology of eating animals, behaviour‑change research, and cross‑disciplinary insights to build a more effective, culturally aware, globally relevant animal‑advocacy movement. The episode argues that progre... more

Episode 4 examines the tension and opportunity where animal-advocacy goals and research on the psychology of eating animals overlap, drawing on conversations from the PHAIR conference. Researchers and advocates discuss credibility, bias, conflicts of... more

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Recent Guests

Tobias Linnart
Advocate emphasizing collaboration across disciplines
Advocacy and education communities
Episode: 150. Building the Future of Animal Advocacy: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 5/5
Joshua Rotman
Researcher advocating for environment-enabled behavior change
Academic and advocacy circles
Episode: 150. Building the Future of Animal Advocacy: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 5/5
Katja Liebal
Researcher focusing on children's attitudes toward living beings
University/Research context mentioned
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5
Joshua Rottman
Associate professor of psychology and philosophical studies of mind
Franklin and Marshall College
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5
Tobias Leenaert
Animal advocate, Pro-Veg International co-founder, author
Pro-Veg International
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5
Brooke Haggerty
Executive Director of Faunalytics
Faunalytics
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5
Matthew Ruby
Senior lecturer in psychology, La Trobe University
La Trobe University
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5
Sue O'Neill
Researcher focusing on violence toward humans and animals and safety decisions
St. Mary's University / University of New Brunswick (as described)
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5
Jared Piazza
Psychologist at Lancaster University, co-founder of the PHAIR Society
Lancaster University / PHAIR Society
Episode: 148. What Actually Changes Behaviour: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 3/5

Host

Marika S. Bell
Host with expertise in animal behavior and welfare, focusing on ethics, captivity, and public engagement.

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149. The Science/Advocacy Tension: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 4/5
Q: What does it look like in practice for academics to engage with the public and with advocacy groups?
It involves partnerships with advocacy organizations, designing interventions and policies, and ensuring findings are interpreted and reported objectively to maintain trust while accelerating real-world impact.
149. The Science/Advocacy Tension: PHAIR Animal Advocacy Conference 4/5
Q: Can researchers be advocates without losing the trust of the public?
The guests discuss balancing advocacy with objectivity, noting conflicts of interest and the need for transparency about biases, while emphasizing practical collaboration to make research more accessible and useful for advocates.
144. Engineered for Exploitation with Amber Canavan (S16)
Q: How accurate are cage-free and free-range labels in reflecting the birds' actual living conditions?
Labels like cage-free often mean little in practice, as birds are still kept in overcrowded sheds with minimal outdoor access, and the marketing creates a misleading perception of freedom that hides ongoing welfare issues.
144. Engineered for Exploitation with Amber Canavan (S16)
Q: What do you think most people would be genuinely surprised to learn about the egg production process?
The most shocking reality is that the harm starts long before hens are visible in a cage-free setting—genetic manipulation and intensive selective breeding drive production, leading to severe health issues and a life spent primarily on a reproductive treadmill.
142. Creating a Multispecies Community with Animal Welfare Scientist, Lauri Torgerson-White (S16)
Q: What three practical steps should someone take first if they want to start a sanctuary?
1) Do thorough research to understand the scale and implications; 2) Prepare for substantial ongoing financial needs and fundraising; 3) Learn animal welfare science and husbandry to keep animal numbers low enough for individualized care.

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This show centers on the human-animal relationship, exploring how interactions with animals shape society, ethics, science, and daily life. Recent episodes span captivity, welfare, and sanctuary design; primate care and ethics; humane training; animal communication; and the cognitive and social lives of birds and reptiles. The host frequently chats with researchers, practitioners, and advocates who bring practical guidance, ethical frameworks, and firsthand experiences, making complex topics accessible for a broad audience. A standout throughline is a commitment to animal welfare and scientific transparency, often challenging traditional norms and encouraging listeners to rethink how they connect with non-human life. The show tends to blend... more

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