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Enneagram
Relationships
Personal Growth
Connection
Self-Awareness
Wisdom
Loneliness
Conflict Resolution
Vulnerability
Empathy
Communication
Team Dynamics
Anxiety
Instincts
Love Languages
Enneagram Type 3
Emotional Intelligence
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Enneagram Type 6
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The Art of Growth started by Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman works with teams to develop Team Health and individuals for self-mastery and social awareness. We are an IEA (International Enneagram Association) school for Enneagram Certification. With organizations, we have a detailed roadmap to change the culture of your team and improve communication, conflict, trust, and personality

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Book with any of our coaches HERE.

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What if everything you believe about why you are the way you are is only half the story? In this episode, Joel and Jim take on the most common explanation people give for their own personality: I am this way because of what happened to me. It is not ... more

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Tamra Evangelista
Coach, enneagram Type Three
The Art of Growth coaching panel
Episode: Lila, Tamra, Barbara- Coach Pod
Lila Asante-Appiah
Coach, enneagram Type Three
The Art of Growth coaching panel
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Barbara Zerbe
Coach, enneagram Type Three
The Art of Growth coaching panel
Episode: Lila, Tamra, Barbara- Coach Pod
Belinda Gore
Psychologist, coach, and artist, well known in the Enneagram world.
Self-employed
Episode: Ancient Wisdom and Modern Practices with Belinda Gore
Ben Campbell
Founder of Wild Enneagram
Wild Enneagram
Episode: Wisdom of Nature- With Ben Campbell
Joan Ryan
Expert in Internal Family Systems and Enneagram education
Episode: IFS and the Enneagram with Guest Joan Ryan
Jeff Cook
Philosophy professor, co-host of the Around the Circle podcast, and author
Around the Circle
Episode: Wisdom of Desire- with Jeff Cook
Serena Heroy
A guest contributor in the discussion, representing the heart center and providing insights on empathy.
Episode: Wisdom of the Three Centers
Wes Simons
Former therapist and director at a social service agency, has a background in pastoral counseling and family therapy
Episode: Type 9 RELATIONSHIPS Panel

Hosts

Joel Hubbard
Co-founder and host with co-presenter; frequent presence across episodes; central in Enneagram discussions and team-health focus.
Jim Zartman
Co-founder and co-host; key co-presenter; anchors many Enneagram discussions and coaching sessions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 611 ratings
  • The BEST Enneagram podcast

    I’ve been listening to the AOG podcast for several years. I go back to some of the episodes again and again, and I often recommend it to others. They have the best info on instincts that I have found, and I believe that understanding the instincts is crucial. I was thrilled to listen to their latest episode and can’t wait for this next season! Looking forward to the deeper dive into the 54 possible instinct stacks. Thank you, Joel and Jim, for the work you do! You are making a valuable contribut... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    akhath
    United Statesa month ago
  • Great Content

    Excellent episodes with no fluff - really love all the panels of the different enneagram types. Thanks for what you guys do, just purchased your book Hunters/Farmers/Teamers

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Adam_Jordan
    United States7 months ago
  • Best Enneagram Podcast

    This is the best enneagram podcast that I’ve heard and that one I keep coming back to!! And I appreciate continuing to bring in more and more female voices!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    moralesgcg
    United Statesa year ago
  • Fabulous podcast

    Wow so glad I found your podcast. Love the content, real information and easy to understand. I appreciate both the host style and choice of words. Also thankful for the awesome sound quality. Congratulations on your new book. Looking forward to checking it out.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bigmo1969
    Canadaa year ago
  • Uncommon Type 8

    I love getting to hear type 8’s and how they move through the world. I also am a female 8 and can relate to a lot of what is discussed… however I am a cryer! 🤣 I don’t know if it’s cuz I am a woman, because I was raised by a type 4 mom, or just because I am so intense and passionate about what I care about but after breaking through my hard exterior I have a really gooey middle! I am a nurse and after being in health care for 22yrs caring for those at their most vulnerable I often find myself t... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WhitRyKrieZeKai1718
    United States2 years ago

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High-quality insights; hosts create a compassionate space for growth.
Engaging and practical. Panels feel seen and grow my understanding.
Intimate and rich discussions; useful for personal and team development.
Diverse listener feedback shows real impact across types and experiences.
Thoughtful, actionable, and deeply human.

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Lila, Tamra, Barbara- Coach Pod
Q: How has certification influenced your coaching practice with teams and individuals?
They describe expanding from personal transformation to applying Enneagram insights in teams, leadership development, and creating healthier workplace cultures, including practical tools and ongoing education.
Lila, Tamra, Barbara- Coach Pod
Q: What made you decide to pursue certification with The Art of Growth?
Guests explain the resonance with The Art of Growth's approach, the desire to deepen their coaching practice, and the realization that Enneagram work could be integrated with leadership development and personal growth to benefit clients.
Lila, Tamra, Barbara- Coach Pod
Q: What initially drew you to the Enneagram and when did you first hear about it?
Each guest shares their awakening moment, detailing personal loss, a search for self-awareness, or a curiosity about personality assessments that led them to the Enneagram, with specific dates and experiences that shaped their path.
Type 5 Panel Live
Q: How can loved ones connect more closely with a five?
Fives appreciate intellectual discussions and activities done together, which allows for a more open connection without overwhelming emotional displays.
Type 7 Panel Live
Q: When you talked about feeling depression, so can you describe what that looks like? And also, what's the way through it?
Depression for me is a lack of desire to be engaged with life, which translates into anger. The way through it has been entering therapy and diving into deeper emotional processing.

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A practical, impact-focused show exploring the Enneagram through in-depth panel conversations and coaching insights. Across episodes, listeners encounter real-life experiences from multiple Enneagram types, with a strong emphasis on self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and personal growth. The format often centers on three-center intelligence (head, heart, body), burnout and resilience, and how to apply Enneagram understanding to teams, relationships, and leadership. A notable strength is the blend of lived-panel storytelling with actionable growth strategies, plus occasional coaching takeaways and guest perspectives that make complex personality work accessible. Potential sponsors or guests may appreciate the emphasis on team health, wo... more

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