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How do we transform and transcend our biases? From judgments made unconsciously to complacency in systemic evil, we must learn how to see if we are to learn how to transform. Center for Action and Contemplation faculty member Brian McLaren hosts the podcast series Learning How to See. Listen and discover how seeing is social, political, and contemplative.

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Season Ten begins September 10th!

This season on Learning How to See, host Brian McLaren and co-hosts Randy and Edith Woodley will focus on experiencing the Biblical text with a heart of seeking and curiosity. Brief readings from the book of Genesis... more

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What do we do when life unravels in painful ways — like navigating an unexpected divorce?

On today's episode of Learning How to See, Carmen and Brian are joined by New York Times Bestselling author Jen Hatmaker. With great humor and authenticity, Je... more

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How can we see others, and ourselves, with love when anger, fear, depression, or division clouds our vision?

Today's episode of Learning How to See features an interview with Quaker elder Parker J. Palmer.  Parker helps us explore how love can becom... more

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How can we de-Westernize spirituality and honor our full humanity within systems that often diminish it?

On this episode of Learning How to See, Dr. Cindy Lee, a spiritual director and author, joins hosts Brian McLaren and Carmen Acevedo Butcher for... more

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Jen Hatmaker
Podcaster, speaker, advocate, educator, and author of 'Awake'
Jen Hatmaker Media
Episode: When Loving Means Letting Go with Jen Hatmaker
Parker J. Palmer
Author, speaker, activist, and founder of the Center for Courage and Renewal
Center for Courage and Renewal
Episode: Loving When We're Not At Our Best with Parker Palmer
Cindy Lee
Spiritual director, aspiring mystic, and proudly Taiwanese-American who leads retreats in Christian mysticism and BIPOC-centered spirituality.
Claremont School of Theology
Episode: Learning How to Hold Space for Others with Cindy Lee
Cassidy Hall
Author, podcaster, award-winning filmmaker, and a leading voice in contemplative spirituality
Episode: Loving People Who Oppose Our Values with Cassidy Hall
Kaitlin Curtice
Award-winning author, poet, storyteller, public speaker, and an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation.
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Episode: Seeing Ourselves with Eyes of Love with Kaitlin Curtice
Sister Simone Campbell
Advocate for social justice and a Sister of Social Service
Network Lobby for Catholic Social Justice
Episode: Seeing with the Help of a Soul-Optometrist with Sr. Simone Campbell
Father John Dear
A lifelong peace activist and Jesuit priest
Episode: Seeing Nonviolently with Rev. John Dear
Reverend Dr. Otis Moss III
Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, speaker and author
Trinity United Church of Christ
Episode: Seeing (and Dancing) in the Dark with Rev. Otis Moss III
Carrie Newcomer
Musician, songwriter, poet, and activist
Episode: Seeing (and Loving) the Divine in The Everyday with Carrie Newcomer

Hosts

Brian McLaren
Center for Action and Contemplation faculty member; host of the series focusing on seeing biases and social/spiritual transformation.
Carmen Acevedo Butcher
Co-host with background as translator and educator; contributes spiritual guidance and contemplative perspectives.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Balm for Soul

    This podcast was recently recommended to me by a friend, and I’m so grateful for the introduction. Brian McLaren and his co-host Carmen guide conversations with their guests in a way that is kind, curious, and deeply peace-filled. Their thoughtful questions, along with the stories and reflections they share themselves, feel like a balm for the soul—offering space for healing, growth, and fresh perspectives on living with greater peace and compassion.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CeeCeeN1
    United States9 months ago
  • A Lens of Learning to live More Lovingly

    This podcast should be on the list for Christians and others who want to grow as Christian and hold their denomination lightly. By that I mean Brian and his guests help us understand non-duality, being open to others’ points of view. Brian’s work on understanding bias is groundbreaking. And his guests are worth listening to. 👍👍

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ShoreURZ
    United States9 months ago
  • Beautiful and stirring

    Thank you for these beautiful and stirring conversations. They are a wonderful gift.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Edith Maria at Rowan
    United Kingdom9 months ago
  • Insightful and useful discussions!

    The "learning" is not intended to be abstract, but applicable to listeners .

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Funkrock8
    United States9 months ago
  • Activista

    I especially appreciate the plain spoken nature and believe it comes as the hosts and guests are engaged in doing the work of justice in addition to providing a spiritual framework for it

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CheekyMinder
    United States9 months ago

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Episodes are seen as a balm for the soul, offering healing and fresh perspectives.
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When Loving Means Letting Go with Jen Hatmaker
Q: Can you give us just a little bit of insight into first steps people can take to heal?
Begin experiencing healing through engaging in creative endeavors, as it fosters new life and new creation.
When Loving Means Letting Go with Jen Hatmaker
Q: Can you tell our audience a little bit more about what Awake is about?
Awake is a memoir that explores the loss of my marriage and the grief and recovery process that followed.
Loving People Who Oppose Our Values with Cassidy Hall
Q: What is our role in loving those who oppose the values of those who may have less privilege than us?
Our role involves using our privilege to help others and to love with an understanding of diverse experiences while avoiding assumptions.
Loving People Who Oppose Our Values with Cassidy Hall
Q: What do we mean by the word values when we say that?
Values are often abstract and can be relative, defined by what gives strength and health to individuals and communities.
Bonus: Listener Questions
Q: Do we lose something if we don't keep our anger?
Letting go of anger doesn't mean losing our moral compass or giving in; instead, it can lead to a more constructive way of engaging with the world.

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The show centers on transforming bias through contemplative and social lenses, blending spiritual inquiry with practical psychology. Episodes often feature intimate conversations with authors, activists, and spiritual leaders who explore love, empathy, and community in the face of division, bias, and difficult life experiences. A notable strength is the integration of personal storytelling with actionable insights, sometimes including guided practices, to help listeners see themselves and the world more clearly. This mix of faith-based reflection, civil discourse, and accessible guidance is likely to appeal to listeners seeking personal growth, deeper empathy, and a calmer approach to challenging issues.

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1. Jen Hatmaker
2. Parker J. Palmer
3. Cindy Lee
4. Cassidy Hall
5. Kaitlin Curtice
6. Sister Simone Campbell
7. Father John Dear
8. Reverend Dr. Otis Moss III

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