The 2x2 Podcast for Independent Consultants

What is customer success actually and where is it headed?

I sat down with Pablo Bernal, former product leader at Microsoft, to talk about the shift from reactive support to proactive services, and how AI is reshaping the way we align technology wit... more

Client work is only half the business. The other half? Contracts and rates. 

After working with hundreds of consultants, I realized that the ones who last aren't just talented. They know how to run the business side too. They know what agreements th... more

What does creativity have to do with consulting?

Paige Darby and I sat down with Susie deVille to talk about how tapping into intrinsic energy can change the way we lead, collaborate, and grow.

We also got into Susie’s leap into indie consulting, t... more

Here's why you should treat your indie practice like a startup.

I sat down with Pedro Girardi to talk about his journey from BCG and Delivery Hero to independent consulting—and the resilience it takes to make that leap.

We got into the value of str... more

What’s a day in the life of a fractional CRO like?

I sat down with Kristi Gaudioso to talk about her move from Microsoft to indie leadership—and what it takes to drive revenue without being full-time.

We covered sales strategy, adaptability, and wh... more

Hey—I’m Lauren Wambold Patel, and this is The 2x2 Podcast.

If you’re an independent consultant, strategist, or fractional exec who’s serious about building your business—not just picking up gigs—this channel is for you.

I’ve built an eight-figure c... more

Is ESG really that important?

I sat down with Cooper Wechkin, founder of RyeStrategy, to talk about climate accounting, sustainability, and why small and mid-sized companies shouldn’t sit this one out.

We got into Cooper’s journey from undergrad st... more