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The 1958 Lawyer

Ron Bockstahler
Law Firms
Ediscovery
Amata Law Office Suites
Artificial Intelligence
Family Law
Amata
Executive Assistant
Complete Legal
Law Firm Growth
Employee Benefits
Chicago, United States
Billable Hour
Onboarding
Consultative Selling
Gregg Garofalo
Philadelphia
Law Firm Business
Community
Technology
Health Insurance

In 1958 the ABA published a pamphlet with an article titled “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. Prior to 1960, most attorney engagements were project based. As a result, many lawyers felt their pay scale was falling behind that of other professional service providers. For many lawyers, this article spurred them to change the way they billed... more

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Recent Guests

Rick Rivero
Marketing expert with Connections Marketing
Connections Marketing
Episode: Rick Rivero: Turning SEO into Answer Engine Optimization for Law Firms
Marian Kelly
Plaintiff personal injury attorney, managing partner at Pop Joy and Kelly, LLC
Pop Joy and Kelly, LLC (New Jersey)
Episode: Marian I. Kelly: Turning Trusted Relationships into a Personal Injury Referral Engine
Maurice Vincent
Managing partner at Complete Legal, Chicago hub
Complete Legal
Episode: Maurice Vincent and Ron Robinson: Building E‑Discovery Partnerships for Solo and Small Firms
Ron Robinson
Director of eDiscovery Sales at Complete Legal
Complete Legal
Episode: Maurice Vincent and Ron Robinson: Building E‑Discovery Partnerships for Solo and Small Firms
Gregg Garofalo
Chicago attorney, managing partner of Garofalo Law Group; guardian at Lytton; innovator in legal tech
Garofalo Law Group
Episode: Gregg Garofalo: Building a Tech-Forward, Human-Centered Estate Practice
Evan Polin
Founder of Polin Performance Group, author of Nobody Ever Told Me I'd Have to Sell
Polin Performance Group
Episode: Evan Polin: The Mindset and Methods Behind Law Firm Business Development
Katy Mickelson
Family law equity partner at Beerman LLP, mediator and litigator
Beerman LLP
Episode: Katy Mickelson: Family Law, Mediation, And The Business Of Divorce
Rampus Richie Marrero
Chicago-based professional in employee benefits; speaker on the show
360 Benefits / Mantra / Amata (partner roles as discussed)
Episode: Richie Marrero: Rethinking Benefits for Law Firms
Gary Savine
Founder of Savine Employment Law, advisor on employment-law and EPLI for growing firms
Savine Employment Law
Episode: Gary Savine: The Hidden Risks of Growing a Law Firm

Hosts

Ron Bockstahler
Host and founder/CEO of Amata Law Office Suites; longtime advisor to law firms on expenses, technology, and growth.
Rebecca Bockstahler
Co-host; HR director at Amata, involvement in firm operations and staffing models.
Clinton End
Co-host and business partner; involved in Amata-related operations and show content.
Clinton Ind
Co-host and partner at Amata; contributes to show format and strategy.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 3 ratings
  • Valuable perspective for solo small firms

    Each episode packages timely lessons from lawyers from all corners of the profession. From Dan Cotter to Lori Levin, Tracy Coenen to Amy Gardner and all the guests in between, listen and learn about what the law can mean and do for you.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Corinne Heggie
    United States5 years ago

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The format emphasizes actionable playbooks and real-world outcomes for growing law practices.
Shows provide timely, practitioner-focused lessons for solo and small firms.
Guests include a mix of marketing, tech, and legal practitioners, adding practical credibility.
Sponsorship and guest insights are valued for practical, cost-effective improvements for small firms.

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Welcome Back to The 1958 Lawyer
Q: Clinton, how did you first get started and what has changed in your practice since joining Amata?
Clinton explains his varied background in solo practice and big firms, the pressures of meeting 2,000 hours, and how Amata's community and resources have helped reduce isolation and accelerate growth.
Gary Savine: The Hidden Risks of Growing a Law Firm
Q: Can you talk about what you're doing there and how you're rolling out EPLI-focused client education and services?
We offer a complimentary review of EPLI coverage and guidance on what it does and doesn't cover, plus coaching to help clients communicate effectively with brokers and tailor their insurance portfolios to employment-law needs, ensuring better insurability as they grow.
Ricardo Santiago: Profitable Practice, Purposeful Impact
Q: What changes are you making to the traditional billing model at your firm?
We're exploring flat fees and limited-scope representations where appropriate, using technology to keep costs down and make services accessible, with the goal of ditching the billable hour altogether.
Ricardo Santiago: Profitable Practice, Purposeful Impact
Q: Ricardo, welcome to the show. Can you introduce yourself and describe the type of law you practice?
I'm Ricardo Santiago, a family law attorney who started my own firm about nine months ago, focusing on serving traditionally underserved communities.
Rick Rivero: Turning SEO into Answer Engine Optimization for Law Firms
Q: What is AEO and why should small law firms care about it?
AEO stands for Answer Engine Optimization. It focuses on content that answers specific user questions and ranks across multiple surfaces like Google, YouTube, and social platforms, helping small firms compete with larger players by being discoverable where potential clients are looking for answers.

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The show centers on how law firms and their clients navigate a shifting business landscape, with a strong emphasis on practical marketing, technology adoption, and sustainable firm operations for solo practitioners and small firms. Episodes explore topics like modern marketing for lawyers, workflow automation, eDiscovery strategies for smaller firms, AI-assisted practice management, and innovative delivery models such as fractional staffing and value-based pricing. Guests range from marketing and sales experts to attorneys and technologists, all focused on making legal services more efficient, client-centered, and scalable. Notable strengths include actionable playbooks, case studies from small-firm perspectives, a sponsor-supported ecosyst... more

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2. Marian Kelly
3. Maurice Vincent
4. Ron Robinson
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7. Katy Mickelson
8. Rampus Richie Marrero

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