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That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton

Lemonada Media & The Clinton Foundation
Public Health
Measles
Misinformation
Vaccination
Artificial Intelligence
Seed Oils
Child Marriage
SNAP
Perimenopause
Glp-1
Vaccines
Mental Health
Breast Cancer
Covid-19 Vaccines
Raw Milk
Maternal Mortality Rates
Forced Marriage
Legislation
MAHA Movement
Menopause

Things are getting weird in the world of public health. Childhood vaccines are suddenly up for debate, fluoride is being described as industrial waste, and it feels like everyone is talking about raw milk! Navigate this chaotic time with public health expert Dr. Chelsea Clinton, who every week talks to doctors, dietitians, parenting experts and more to expose pseudoscience and help us sort fact fr... more

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What if you could get pregnant in your 40s using eggs from your 20s or 30s? You can, and more and more people are doing it. Chelsea Clinton talks with OB-GYN and fertility specialist Dr. Lucky Sekhon about how egg freezing works, what a cycle costs, ... more

Peabody Award-winning physician Dr. Joel Bervell joins Chelsea Clinton to fact-check viral claims and headlines, from plague panic to raw goat’s milk to unregulated peptides, and explains why misinformation is harder to fight than ever. He also discu... more

More than 1 in 5 people diagnosed with HIV in 2024 already had AIDS, even though we have powerful tools to prevent and treat it. In honor of National PrEP Day (October 10), Chelsea talks with Dr. Demetre Daskalakis (former CDC and NYC Health Departme... more

Meditation gets recommended for everything, from anxiety and chronic pain to insomnia and addiction. But what if it's not always the harmless cure-all it's made out to be? Chelsea talks with journalist Olga Khazan, author of The Atlantic's "The Dark ... more

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Joel Bervell
Physician, Peabody Award-winning science communicator, and host of Myth or Medicine
MS Now
Episode: Plague Panic, Raw Milk, and Peptide Hype with Dr. Joel Bervell
Demetre Daskalakis
Public health leader, physician
New York City Health Department, CDC, White House National Immunopox Response
Episode: Why Taking PrEP Should Be As Normal As Birth Control
Tristan Schukraft
Founder and CEO of Mistr
Mistr
Episode: Why Taking PrEP Should Be As Normal As Birth Control
Olga Khazan
Journalist and author known for The Atlantic piece The Dark Side of Mindfulness
The Atlantic
Episode: Can Meditation Hurt You? with Olga Khazan
Jessica Malaty Rivera
Infectious disease epidemiologist and science communicator
Public health and epidemiology community
Episode: How Measles Deaths Are Being Erased From the Record with Jessica Malaty Rivera
Trisha Pasricha
Gastroenterologist and scientist
Harvard Medical School
Episode: Listener Favorite: Why Colorectal Cancer Rates are Up in Young Adults with Dr. Trisha Pasricha
Dr. Katherine Keyes
Professor of epidemiology at Columbia University
Columbia University
Episode: Why Gen Z is Drinking Less and Millennial Women are Drinking More with Dr. Katherine Keyes
Dr. Céline Gounder
Internist, infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, CBS News medical correspondent
Episode: Trump Wants ‘5 Little Shots.’ What Does That Mean? with Dr. Céline Gounder
Sammy Roth
Climate journalist, former LA Times climate reporter, founder of Climate Colored Goggles
Substack Climate Colored Goggles
Episode: Breaking Up With Your Gas Stove with Sammy Roth

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Chelsea Clinton
Host of That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton; long-running host with a focus on public health misinformation and science-based discussion.

Reviews

3.4 out of 5 stars from 434 ratings
  • Always an informative listen

    Chelsea does a great job examining relevant health and social issues with trusted experts

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Whodatbe420
    United States2 months ago
  • Excellent

    The only thing I wish I had more of is health at any size nuance. There seems to be some weight stigma in this show and it would be great if it were addressed head on.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    teeny tiny safari
    Germany3 months ago
  • No depth of substance

    I listen to both sides on a subject, especially when it comes to health. Dr Andrea Love is one I try to listen to so I can get convinced on not buying organic, and yet during her interview there was nothing. She makes broad statements, no details or stats or articles referenced. Telling me it is a hype of this movement to make $$, when we know Big Ag and Big Food does the exact thing you claim organic does….ummmm… not convincing me. Then the podcast on breast cancer, if you actually listen to th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    kabess77
    United States4 months ago
  • Episode missing the mark

    I have been following the show and really appreciate the perspective but today’s episode w Andrea showed me again where democrats missed the mark and folks glommed on to the MAHA movement. As a former farmer the convo about organic food missed so much about the environmental impacts of industrial farming and the numerous studies on the chemicals that have impacted farmers health. Telling people that organic doesn’t matter but then being upset by trump gutting environmental protections is contrad... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Marigold pony
    United States7 months ago
  • Love it!

    Love what I have heard so far. I am a friend and follower of Dr. Andrea Love and am so grateful you are promoting public health backed by science on your podcast. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    two_mommas
    United States7 months ago

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Combines accessible discussion with debunking misinformation, though some reviews highlight perceived bias.
Audience appreciates data-backed parenting guidance, with some calls for more nuance on weight topics.
Informative and trusted expert-driven health insights.

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#207
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Plague Panic, Raw Milk, and Peptide Hype with Dr. Joel Bervell
Q: Who is the default body? Why does it matter that we know who that is? And what happens when a patient isn't that default body?
Bervell says medicine has been built around a white, able-bodied male, shaping measures such as BMI, diagnostic training, and clinical research. He describes how that bias can affect diagnosis and treatment, including through AI systems trained on historical healthcare data.
Plague Panic, Raw Milk, and Peptide Hype with Dr. Joel Bervell
Q: What other health claims have you seen or heard recently that you totally understand kind of why it's gone viral and also are like, oh my gosh, I wish people had a little more context?
Bervell cites the claim that sunscreen causes cancer and the idea that beef tallow can replace sunscreen. He explains that darker-skinned people can still develop skin cancer, which may be diagnosed later because of misconceptions and unfamiliar warning signs.
Why Taking PrEP Should Be As Normal As Birth Control
Q: What needs to happen to reach universal access to HIV testing and PrEP?
The main barrier is not the science but the system; universal health care would remove access gaps, enabling testing and PrEP to be part of standard care, while reducing stigma and logistical barriers.
Can Meditation Hurt You? with Olga Khazan
Q: Can you meditate for too long, fact or fiction?
Fact; longer meditation can increase risk of adverse effects for some individuals.
Can Meditation Hurt You? with Olga Khazan
Q: Meditation can help everyone, fact or fiction?
Fiction; benefits exist for many, but not universally, and some people may experience negative side effects, especially with long practice or retreats.

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A data-driven health and public-welfare show that pushes back on wellness misinformation by bringing in physicians, epidemiologists, parenting experts, and researchers. Episodes cover vaccines, sleep, menopause, childhood development, nutrition, and climate health, with a focus on practical guidance for families and policy-minded listeners. The host invites credible specialists to translate complex science into accessible advice, often layering public health perspectives with actionable tips for everyday life. The program tends to highlight evidence-based messaging, debunk common myths, and discuss how communication and policy shape health outcomes. A standout trait is its willingness to address controversial topics with nuance, while maint... more

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