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That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton

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Public Health
Measles
Misinformation
Vaccination
Artificial Intelligence
Seed Oils
Child Marriage
Perimenopause
SNAP
Glp-1
Vaccines
Mental Health
Breast Cancer
Covid-19 Vaccines
Maternal Mortality Rates
Forced Marriage
Legislation
Maha Movement
Menopause
Infant Formula

Things are getting weird in the world of public health. Childhood vaccines are suddenly up for debate, fluoride is being described as industrial waste, and it feels like everyone is talking about raw milk! Navigate this chaotic time with public health expert Dr. Chelsea Clinton, who every week talks to doctors, dietitians, parenting experts and more to expose pseudoscience and help us sort fact fr... more

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Olga Khazan
Journalist and author known for The Atlantic piece The Dark Side of Mindfulness
The Atlantic
Episode: Can Meditation Hurt You? with Olga Khazan
Dr. Katherine Keyes
Professor of epidemiology at Columbia University
Columbia University
Episode: Why Gen Z is Drinking Less and Millennial Women are Drinking More with Dr. Katherine Keyes
Dr. Céline Gounder
Internist, infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, CBS News medical correspondent
Episode: Trump Wants ‘5 Little Shots.’ What Does That Mean? with Dr. Céline Gounder
Sammy Roth
Climate journalist, former LA Times climate reporter, founder of Climate Colored Goggles
Substack Climate Colored Goggles
Episode: Breaking Up With Your Gas Stove with Sammy Roth
Dana Suskind
Pediatric surgeon, professor, author, expert on early childhood development and language
University of Chicago, Too Small to Fail (context from intro)
Episode: Artificial Intelligence and Kids: Dos and Don'ts with Dr. Dana Suskind
Dr. Vonda Wright
Orthopedic surgeon focused on menopause and aging
Orthopaedic surgeon; menopause and aging expert
Episode: Your Sleep Is Broken, Here's the Fix | Introducing Better in Bed with The Sleep Doctor
Dr. Arti Thangudu
Board-certified endocrinologist and internal medicine physician based in Texas
Independent clinician
Episode: Low T, Adrenal Fatigue, and More Hormone Hype with Dr. Arti Thangudu
Dr. Morgan McSweeney
Medical communications expert and Dr. Noc
Independent medical educator / Dr. Noc
Episode: Black Market Peptides, a Blood Test to Predict Alzheimer’s and VO2Maxxing with Dr. Noc
Ashwin Vasan
Public health physician and leader, former NYC Health Commissioner
Yale University (Senior Fellow), Former NYC Health Commissioner
Episode: How AI Is Quietly Reshaping Healthcare with Dr. Ashwin Vasan

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Chelsea Clinton
Host of That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton; long-running host with a focus on public health misinformation and science-based discussion.

Reviews

3.4 out of 5 stars from 431 ratings
  • Always an informative listen

    Chelsea does a great job examining relevant health and social issues with trusted experts

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Whodatbe420
    United States2 months ago
  • Excellent

    The only thing I wish I had more of is health at any size nuance. There seems to be some weight stigma in this show and it would be great if it were addressed head on.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    teeny tiny safari
    Germany2 months ago
  • No depth of substance

    I listen to both sides on a subject, especially when it comes to health. Dr Andrea Love is one I try to listen to so I can get convinced on not buying organic, and yet during her interview there was nothing. She makes broad statements, no details or stats or articles referenced. Telling me it is a hype of this movement to make $$, when we know Big Ag and Big Food does the exact thing you claim organic does….ummmm… not convincing me. Then the podcast on breast cancer, if you actually listen to th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    kabess77
    United States3 months ago
  • Episode missing the mark

    I have been following the show and really appreciate the perspective but today’s episode w Andrea showed me again where democrats missed the mark and folks glommed on to the MAHA movement. As a former farmer the convo about organic food missed so much about the environmental impacts of industrial farming and the numerous studies on the chemicals that have impacted farmers health. Telling people that organic doesn’t matter but then being upset by trump gutting environmental protections is contrad... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Marigold pony
    United States6 months ago
  • Love it!

    Love what I have heard so far. I am a friend and follower of Dr. Andrea Love and am so grateful you are promoting public health backed by science on your podcast. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    two_mommas
    United States6 months ago

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Combines accessible discussion with debunking misinformation, though some reviews highlight perceived bias.
Audience appreciates data-backed parenting guidance, with some calls for more nuance on weight topics.
Informative and trusted expert-driven health insights.

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Can Meditation Hurt You? with Olga Khazan
Q: Can you meditate for too long, fact or fiction?
Fact; longer meditation can increase risk of adverse effects for some individuals.
Can Meditation Hurt You? with Olga Khazan
Q: Meditation can help everyone, fact or fiction?
Fiction; benefits exist for many, but not universally, and some people may experience negative side effects, especially with long practice or retreats.
How Measles Deaths Are Being Erased From the Record with Jessica Malaty Rivera
Q: What should listeners understand about the difference between 'measles-associated' versus 'measles-related' deaths?
These terms indicate that measles was part of the causal pathway for death rather than the sole agent; precise language matters because it affects interpretation of mortality data and the perceived severity of the outbreak.
How Measles Deaths Are Being Erased From the Record with Jessica Malaty Rivera
Q: What is your view on the public health risk when we see four deaths from measles in a short span?
Four deaths in a Pennsylvania outbreak, given measles' high transmissibility and complication rate, signals a significant public health event and raises concerns about undercounting, definitions, and the need for clear risk communication to the public and policymakers.
How Measles Deaths Are Being Erased From the Record with Jessica Malaty Rivera
Q: Can you walk us through how a death is recorded and who determines what someone died of?
Typically the providing doctor fills out the death certificate in a hospital or clinic, listing primary, secondary, and sometimes additional diagnoses to explain the course of illness; official definitions and categorizations come from public health bodies, but there can be discrepancies between state reports and federal dashboards that need careful interpretation, especially during outbreaks.

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A data-driven health and public-welfare show that pushes back on wellness misinformation by bringing in physicians, epidemiologists, parenting experts, and researchers. Episodes cover vaccines, sleep, menopause, childhood development, nutrition, and climate health, with a focus on practical guidance for families and policy-minded listeners. The host invites credible specialists to translate complex science into accessible advice, often layering public health perspectives with actionable tips for everyday life. The program tends to highlight evidence-based messaging, debunk common myths, and discuss how communication and policy shape health outcomes. A standout trait is its willingness to address controversial topics with nuance, while maint... more

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