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Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

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Murder
Lizzie Borden
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World War II
Historical True Crime
Jack the Ripper
Mental Health
Family Dynamics
Rebecca Briggs Cornell
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Incel Community
Relisha Rudd
Stephanie St. Clair
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Wrongful Conviction
John Chiswell
Bertha Manchester
Crime Investigation

Welcome to Tenfold More Wicked Presents: Wicked Words, Kate Winkler Dawson's true crime talk show. On each new episode of Wicked Words, Kate interviews journalists, podcasters and authors about their fascinating behind-the-scenes stories from their investigations in the world of true crime, many of which have never been shared before. Kate interviews Patricia Cornwell, the prolific true crime auth... more

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The 1975 murder of 15-year-old Martha Moxley made national headlines because of its brutality, but also because the main suspect was a cousin of the Kennedys. Michael Skakel was tried, convicted and then released from prison. Many felt like he might ... more

My next guest has done something extraordinary: she traveled across America collecting stories of criminalized survival. Shocked to find how many women were convicted for protecting themselves against abuse. Author Justine van der Leun tells me the s... more

If you followed the so-called Black Swan murder case, you probably saw a teenage girl, trying to get justice for her father. In 2020, Ashley Benefield shot and killed her estranged husband, Doug, in Florida. Eva Benefield had already gone through so ... more

Author Emily Winslow is a fabulous crime novelist and she’s also a sexual assault survivor. In 1992, she was a young drama student at an elite conservatory in Pittsburgh. One January night, she was brutally raped by a stranger. More than 20 years la... more

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Recent Guests

Eva Benefield
Survivor and author of Ghost Girl, Surviving the Black Swan Murder
Author, Speaker, Entrepreneur
Episode: Eva Benefield: Ghost Girl
Emily Winslow
Crime novelist and sexual assault survivor
Author, Jane Doe January
Episode: Emily Winslow: Jane Doe January
Pam Colloff
Criminal justice reporter and author of Catch the Devil
Author, Catch the Devil
Episode: Pamela Colloff: Catch the Devil
Michelle Pitcher
Journalist with the Texas Observer, contributor to Unforgiven podcast
Texas Observer
Episode: Michelle Pitcher: Riding Shotgun
Axton Betz-Hamilton
Author of The Less People Know About Us
Author, identity theft expert by experience
Episode: Axton Betz-Hamilton: The Less People Know About Us
Robert Hilland
Former FBI agent and author, investigator on the Fran and Janice cases
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Episode: Robert Hilland: Chasing Evil
Jessica McDiarmid
Journalist from the Highway of Tears region and author of Highway of Tears, A True Story of Racism, Indifference, and the Pursuit of Justice for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls
Journalist/Author
Episode: Jessica McDiarmid: Highway of Tears
Liam Le Guillou
Filmmaker who created An Unknown Compelling Force
Filmmaker, known for An Unknown Compelling Force
Episode: Liam Le Guillou: An Unknown Compelling Force PT 1
Naomi Clifford
Historian and author of Women and the Gallows
Author, Historian
Episode: Naomi Clifford: Women and the Gallows

Host

Kate Winkler Dawson
Host of Wicked Words, interviewing journalists, authors, and filmmakers about behind-the-scenes stories from true crime investigations

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 11k ratings
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    Ew.

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    Prawn Travolta
    United States5 days ago
  • I was hoping she wouldn’t suck

    But I’m disgusted. I was disgusted by Paul Holes and his prejudice and misogyny and homophobia…. And now I’m listening to this “black swan” episode with a daughter deeply attracted to her father and exuding her father’s violence (firing a gun to tell someone to shut up is great!!!!! REALLY)

    This is awful. Gross.

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    it was recommended
    United States11 days ago
  • Emily Winslow

    Started out liking it. I knew things were going south when she reiterated several times: “I was deeply religious but now I’m still religious just in a different way.” That quote preceded her discussion about how her OB/GYN prescribed the morning after pill following her sexual assault and she refused to take it on the grounds of her “religious beliefs.” Then she goes on to tell us that this practitioner slipped her a Mickey. A concoction or a pill that prevented conception. And she says two or... more

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    NikkiPonce
    United States17 days ago
  • Just okay

    Listened to several episodes, and this just isn’t up to the standard set by Kate with Buried Bones. Some authors are interesting, but most are dry and never hold my interest to listen to the end.

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    Rock Jayhawk
    United States2 months ago
  • Such an insightful show

    The double episode about the Dyatlov Pass mystery was one of the best examples of why this show is so good. Going deep into the story but also the work of the documentary maker, what he included and what he didn’t, but most importantly why, is so fascinating and his leading theory makes so much sense. A great extended interview with Kate’s sharp interviewing style so beautifully matched.

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    Fail log
    Australia3 months ago

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Guests are consistently described as well-chosen and insightful, with strong research and ethical storytelling.
Episodes covering historical cases and international perspectives are frequently highlighted as standout.
Listeners praise deep investigative storytelling and the host's sharp interviewing style.
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Emily Winslow: Jane Doe January
Q: What was it like to revisit the case years later when the DNA match finally emerged?
It was a mix of shock and relief, plus a careful reckoning with how long justice had taken and how much the people around me had to carry as the story unfolded again through the trial and the media.
Emily Winslow: Jane Doe January
Q: How did you first decide to tell your story in memoir form, and what were you hoping to achieve by writing Jane Doe January?
I wanted to map my emotional journey, to search for an explanation that would help me understand what happened, and to honor the people—detectives, lawyers, friends—who supported me along the way, even as the story evolved beyond my initial expectations.
Pamela Colloff: Catch the Devil
Q: Tell me what the criteria is for prosecutors to agree to this.
Pam explains that there must be some limit to the release and that, historically, there was little to no verification or Daubert-like scrutiny at the time, making jailhouse informants a convenient but dangerous tool for prosecutors.
Michelle Pitcher: Riding Shotgun
Q: What was it like reporting on a case where eyewitnesses and a dramatic car were central to the narrative?
The reporting highlighted conflicting witness timelines, the infamous car description, and how those elements intertwined with the drug-angle and a highly scrutinized hypnosis session, shaping both trial and appeals.
Michelle Pitcher: Riding Shotgun
Q: Let's talk about how you came to the story to begin with. How does it work with the Observer? Do you come to them and say, you know, hey, I'm interested in this, or did somebody call you over to say you're the right fit for this story?
I was drawn to criminal justice in Texas and pitched the broader story to reporters there; the collaboration emerged from mutual interest and expertise in investigating wrongful convictions and drug-era crime within Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs.

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This show features in-depth interviews with writers, journalists, filmmakers, and researchers who explore true crime from behind the scenes—uncovering how investigations are conducted, how cases are framed, and how storytelling shapes public understanding. Episodes often spotlight historical crimes, investigative reporting, and ethical storytelling, with guests ranging from authors and documentary filmmakers to legal analysts. Notable strengths include rigorous research, candid discussion of investigative choices, and a respectful, empathetic approach to victims and communities. A key distinction is the rotating roster of cross-disciplinary guests, which helps listeners gain multifaceted perspectives on crime, justice, and media coverage wh... more

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2. Emily Winslow
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4. Michelle Pitcher
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7. Jessica McDiarmid
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