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Over the next 20 years, the telco industry will radically change as we move the entire IT estate to the public cloud to use AI. Are you ready? Telco in 20 helps telecom execs drive transformative change through the savvy use of public cloud and AI. Host Danielle Rios and high profile guests from across telecom share their vision for the industry’s future, the impact of artificial intelligence, and... more

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MWC26 in Barcelona is right around the corner, and the telco industry is already buzzing about what will unfold at the Fira. Four big themes will dominate this year’s event: AI-driven networks, network APIs, AI data centers, and regulation. But which... more

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What an incredible year for telco, AI, and the public cloud. Hyperscalers shattered CapEx records, the first brownfield 5G cores migrated to the public cloud, and we had phenomenal conversations with telco heavyweights worldwide. One of our episodes ... more

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Most consumers can't tell the difference between Wi-Fi and cellular networks, yet our industry expects them to navigate over 200 confusing plan options. This complexity leaves no easy way for customers to compare networks, compare coverage at specifi... more

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The telco industry has been buzzing about AI transformation, but few operators have seen tangible results beyond pilot projects. The challenge isn't just adopting new technology—it's fundamentally changing how telcos build and maintain their business... more

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Thad Hwang
CEO and founder of Goji Mobile
Goji Mobile
Episode: Ep 129 - Goji Mobile: The Expedia of mobile phones (Thad Hwang)
Scott Bicheno
telecoms.com
Episode: Ep 128 - Talking AI with Telecoms.com (Scott Bicheno/Iain Morris)
Jim Abolt
Strategic HR and Organizational Transformation Leader
SVP of Human Resources
Episode: Ep 127 - The courage to change (Jim Abolt)
Gabriela Styf Sjöman
Managing Director of Research and Network Strategy at BT Group
BT Group
Episode: Ep 126 - AI for networks and networks for AI (Gabriela Styf Sjöman)
Michael Walker
Head of Enterprise AI Deployment Strategy at Totogi
Totogi
Episode: Ep 125 - What’s up with Totogi: The power of vertical AI (Michael Walker)
Allan Rasmussen
CEO of MVNO Services and one of the world's leading MVNO strategists
MVNO Services
Episode: Ep 124 - The innovation inertia of MVNOs (Allan Rasmussen)
Robin Cole
Vice President of Engineering at Microsoft
Microsoft
Episode: Ep 122 - Microsoft’s hypervelocity engineering for hypervelocity telcos (Robin Cole)
Angelo Libertucci
Global Head of Industry for Telecom at Google Cloud
Google Cloud
Episode: Ep 121 - Building AI-driven autonomous networks with Google Cloud (Angelo Libertucci)
Shkumbin Hamiti
Vice President of Network Monetization at Nokia
Nokia
Episode: Ep 120 - The $300 billion question: Can telcos monetize network APIs? (Shkumbin Hamiti)

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Danielle Rios
Host of Telco in 20

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 47 ratings
  • Entertaining and insightful

    This podcast is really great. The production value is off the charts. Was laughing along with the Jim Abolt episode - legitimately entertaining and insightful. Well done

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    drenee2
    United States2 years ago
  • Love the cloud approach to telco

    Great ideas on the public cloud approach for telco companies, if you are related to telco you will love it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    xe1uca
    Mexico5 years ago
  • Entertaining and insightful

    This podcast is really great. The production value is off the charts. Was laughing along with the Jim Abolt episode - legitimately entertaining and insightful. Well done

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    drenee2
    United States5 years ago
  • First episode

    Just listened to the first episode of telco in 20 on transformational leadership . It takes big bold vision to move telcos to the public cloud! Looking forward to hearing more episodes and learning ; fast, fun and fab

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Timo in Waterloo
    Canada5 years ago
  • Review

    Great stuff

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    chadoup
    United States5 years ago

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Feedback indicates the guests are well-selected and offer practical takeaways for listeners involved in telecommunications.
There is a positive reception towards the humor and relatability of the host during discussions, making complex topics more accessible.
Listeners appreciate the high production quality of the content, often highlighting the engaging discussions and entertaining moments.
The insights shared about the public cloud approach for telco companies are seen as particularly valuable for industry professionals.

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Ep 130 - Best of 2025: AI for networks and networks for AI (Gabriela Styf Sjöman)
Q: What cultural challenges have you faced in the organization when adopting AI?
Changing work habits and mindsets has been difficult; people need to shift from a network-centric to a subscriber-centric approach.
Ep 130 - Best of 2025: AI for networks and networks for AI (Gabriela Styf Sjöman)
Q: How do you think providers are going to start to differentiate themselves in the future?
It starts with the customer; it's about understanding customers' needs and delivering competitive value propositions.
Ep 127 - The courage to change (Jim Abolt)
Q: From an HR perspective, what do you think is going on?
Telecom companies are not making progress with their AI initiatives due to either inadequate ideas or lack of bold execution.
Ep 125 - What’s up with Totogi: The power of vertical AI (Michael Walker)
Q: Why do you think context is so important to getting AI to work at scale?
Context encompasses everything a system knows about the user and their business at the moment of decision-making, enabling coherent and effective AI responses.
Ep 125 - What’s up with Totogi: The power of vertical AI (Michael Walker)
Q: What do you think are some of the pros and cons of a horizontal approach versus a vertical one?
Horizontal AI offers a broader range of applications, while vertical AI provides deeper industry knowledge and context, allowing for quicker and more effective deployments.

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Focusing on the future of the telecommunications industry, this podcast explores the transformative effects of artificial intelligence (AI) and the migration of IT systems to the public cloud. With a host who engages with prominent industry figures, discussions often revolve around the strategic shifts necessary for telcos to thrive in a rapidly evolving landscape. Episodes cover various topics such as customer-centric network approaches, the integration of AI solutions, and the challenges faced by telecom companies navigating this significant transition. This content is valuable for anyone involved in telecommunications, technology strategy, or organizational transformation, offering insights into practical solutions and innovative strateg... more

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