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Over the next 20 years, the telco industry will radically change as we move the entire IT estate to the public cloud to use AI. Are you ready? Telco in 20 helps telecom execs drive transformative change through the savvy use of public cloud and AI. Host Danielle Rios and high profile guests from across telecom share their vision for the industry’s future, the impact of artificial intelligence, and... more

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MWC 26 is a wrap, and one thing is clear: the telco industry has moved past asking whether AI will transform the business. The new question is who's moving fast enough to capture value, and who's still playing catch up.

Before I left Barcelona, I st... more

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Every telco exec is talking about AI agents. Almost nobody is talking about what those agents actually need to work: context.

Not just data — the logic, rules, and decision-making processes that define how your business actually operates. That knowl... more

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At MWC, vendors will flood the floor with AI demos that look impressive but can’t prove their actual value. Telcos have spent billions connecting systems, but connection isn’t comprehension. Most AI initiatives are blind—unable to see across the frag... more

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The telecom industry is full of AI projects that fail. Most operators think it’s a data problem—connect the systems, feed AI the information. But data doesn't tell AI how to decide. Your processes do. Your rules do.

In this special “What's Up with T... more

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Walid Abdul-Majeed
Director of Technology Strategy and Digital Transformation at Zain Sudan
Zain Sudan
Episode: Ep 134 - Show me the money (MWC)
Rick Lievano
CTO for Worldwide Telecommunications Industry at Microsoft
Microsoft
Episode: Ep 132 - Microsoft's framework for autonomous networks (Rick Lievano)
Dean Bubley
Founder and director of Disruptive Analysis
Disruptive Analysis
Episode: Ep 131 - Two takes on telco’s biggest bets for 2026 (Dean Bubley)
Thad Hwang
CEO and founder of Goji Mobile
Goji Mobile
Episode: Ep 129 - Goji Mobile: The Expedia of mobile phones (Thad Hwang)
Scott Bicheno
telecoms.com
Episode: Ep 128 - Talking AI with Telecoms.com (Scott Bicheno/Iain Morris)
Jim Abolt
Strategic HR and Organizational Transformation Leader
SVP of Human Resources
Episode: Ep 127 - The courage to change (Jim Abolt)
Gabriela Styf Sjöman
Managing Director of Research and Network Strategy at BT Group
BT Group
Episode: Ep 126 - AI for networks and networks for AI (Gabriela Styf Sjöman)
Michael Walker
Head of Enterprise AI Deployment Strategy at Totogi
Totogi
Episode: Ep 125 - What’s up with Totogi: The power of vertical AI (Michael Walker)
Allan Rasmussen
CEO of MVNO Services and one of the world's leading MVNO strategists
MVNO Services
Episode: Ep 124 - The innovation inertia of MVNOs (Allan Rasmussen)

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Danielle Rios
Host of Telco in 20

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 47 ratings
  • Entertaining and insightful

    This podcast is really great. The production value is off the charts. Was laughing along with the Jim Abolt episode - legitimately entertaining and insightful. Well done

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    drenee2
    United States2 years ago
  • Love the cloud approach to telco

    Great ideas on the public cloud approach for telco companies, if you are related to telco you will love it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    xe1uca
    Mexico5 years ago
  • Entertaining and insightful

    This podcast is really great. The production value is off the charts. Was laughing along with the Jim Abolt episode - legitimately entertaining and insightful. Well done

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    drenee2
    United States5 years ago
  • First episode

    Just listened to the first episode of telco in 20 on transformational leadership . It takes big bold vision to move telcos to the public cloud! Looking forward to hearing more episodes and learning ; fast, fun and fab

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Timo in Waterloo
    Canada5 years ago
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    Great stuff

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    chadoup
    United States5 years ago

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Well-produced, insightful look at cloud and AI in telecom.
Positive feedback on actionable takeaways and real-world examples.
First episode praised for bold vision and fast pace.
Valuable for understanding practical AI deployments in telcos.
Entertaining and informative with strong guest lineups.

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Ep 135 - Telco has a context problem (John Abraham)
Q: How can ontology help Telcos solve the context problem without waiting for a perfect data lake?
Ontology creates a semantic, kinetic, and dynamic framework that defines how data relates, how decisions are made, and how actions are taken, allowing live systems to execute with context and gradually expand scope as more connections are built.
Ep 135 - Telco has a context problem (John Abraham)
Q: Do we really know what these agents are going to do, and what are the problems Telcos see when deploying AI at scale?
The main issues are cost, context, and communication; while costs can be reduced with cheaper tokens, the real value comes from building a robust context layer that defines what agents can and should do, and enabling them to coordinate effectively.
Ep 133 - What’s up with Totogi: The biggest AI use case for telco
Q: What's the biggest pain point that BSS Magic solves?
BSS Magic addresses the semantic inconsistency problem, enabling telcos to have systems that understand and leverage data effectively.
Ep 133 - What’s up with Totogi: The biggest AI use case for telco
Q: What is BSS Magic?
BSS Magic is aimed at resolving semantic inconsistencies within telecommunications systems, providing a standardized ontology to ensure systems communicate effectively.
Ep 130 - Best of 2025: AI for networks and networks for AI (Gabriela Styf Sjöman)
Q: What cultural challenges have you faced in the organization when adopting AI?
Changing work habits and mindsets has been difficult; people need to shift from a network-centric to a subscriber-centric approach.

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What is Telco in 20 about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A show focused on AI, cloud adoption, and transformative tech in the telecom sector. Across recent episodes, the conversation centers on practical AI deployment in telcos, the role of ontologies and context layers to unlock value, and how major operators are leveraging public cloud to enable autonomous networks, improved customer experiences, and new commercial models. Guests range from researchers and operators to CTOs and transformation leaders, offering real-world case studies (like Zain, BT Group, and T-Mobile-like tensions between legacy systems and modern AI workflows) and actionable frameworks for achieving measurable business outcomes. The series often emphasizes governance, cultural change, and the need for industry-specific AI tha... more

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