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Stories Lived. Stories Told.

Abbie VanMeter and The CMM Institute
Social Justice
Storytelling
Climate Action
Immigration
Disability
Sustainability
Environmental Justice
Lived Experience
Communication
Great March For Climate Action
Polyvagal Theory
Inclusive Design
Social Models Of Disability
Cultural Perspectives
Peace Corps
Intergenerational Dialogue
Nature Preservation
Motherhood
Ableism
Food Waste

The purpose of Coordinated Management of Meaning is to create better social worlds through better communication. This podcast is about empowering all of us in our communication to see ourselves as curious and active participants with the ability to create meaningful change in our relationships and social worlds. Our practice of CMM is about embodying a “communication perspective,” which asks us to... more

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Latest Episodes

Introducing 'The Stories of CSCA'- a new podcast mini-series hosted by Abbie in collaboration with the Central States Communication Association (CSCA)! 

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In episode two of 'The Stories of CSCA' Abbie and Jeff talk about Jeff’s role as President ... more

Introducing 'The Stories of CSCA'- a new podcast mini-series hosted by Abbie in collaboration with the Central States Communication Association (CSCA)! 

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In episode one of 'The Stories of CSCA' Abbie and Kristina explore this year's conference t... more

What can you imagine for a better world?

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Today, Abbie and Jenn discuss the recent Chinese Lunar New Year, and the context of the transition from the year of the Wood Snake to the year of the Fire Horse as it relates to a shared sense of urgency... more

What is your practice of systems thinking?

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Today, Abbie and Gerald explore the ongoing practice of defining and redefining systems; the relationship between boundaries and meaning-making; the impact of moral forces on naming the 'sacred' and 'p... more

Where are you able to identify opportunities to make new choices in the systems you live, work, and play within?  

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Today, Abbie and Christian talk trying out practical methods for system thinking, balancing simplicity and complexity, using the ... more

What have you learned in 2025?

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Today, Abbie offers one last, short episode for Season 4. In it, she explores her own reflections on the past year and hopes for the coming year. She invites listeners to join the conversation however they can- em... more

How can you be proactive in your inclusivity?

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Today, Abbie, Jamie, and Celia explore disability through the lens of a communication perspective, talking about transforming exclusion into inclusion in every space, changing narratives to focus on... more

What makes you a designer? 

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Today, Abbie, Claudia, and Chris explore radical changes in learning around systems thinking and design over time, along with the implications for future designers, which includes all of us. This conversation was rec... more

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Recent Guests

Jeff Child
President of Central States Communication Association; Chair of the Department of Communication at University of Nevada, Las Vegas
Central States Communication Association; University of Nevada, Las Vegas
Episode: BONUS | Jeff Child on Being CSCA President | The Stories of CSCA
Kristina Scharp
Associate professor at Rutgers University; first vice president of CSCA; runs Family Communication and Relationships Lab
Rutgers University; CSCA
Episode: BONUS | Kristina Scharp on the Theme of Translate | The Stories of CSCA
Jenn Chan
CEO of the Department of Imaginary Affairs
Department of Imaginary Affairs
Episode: On Creating Invitations to Imagination with Jenn Chan | Ep. 156
Gerald Midgley
Emeritus professor in the Center for Systems Studies at the University of Hull, UK
University of Hull
Episode: On Episodes, Boundaries, and Marginalization with Gerald Midgley | Ep. 155
Christian Baron
Consultant, trainer, and systemic coach
Episode: On Exploring Systems, Perspectives, and Complexity with Christian Baron | Ep. 154
Celia Chartres-Aris
Co-founder of Disabled By Society and co-author of Unlearning Ableism
Disabled By Society
Episode: On Unlearning Ableism with Jamie Shields and Celia Chartres-Aris | Ep. 152
Jamie Shields
Co-founder of Disabled By Society and co-author of Unlearning Ableism
Disabled By Society
Episode: On Unlearning Ableism with Jamie Shields and Celia Chartres-Aris | Ep. 152
Mario Márquez-Lartigue
Founder of Laboratorio para el Cambio; works on community and dialogue development
Laboratorio para el Cambio
Episode: On Relating Systems Thinking and Design at RSD14 | Ep. 149
Victoria V
Strategic designer with experience in large systems and human-centered design
Episode: On Relating Systems Thinking and Design at RSD14 | Ep. 149

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Abbie
Host of Stories Lived, Stories Told, guiding discussions on communication, relationships, and social change through the lens of the Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM) approach.

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On Episodes, Boundaries, and Marginalization with Gerald Midgley | Ep. 155
Q: Can you say more about what you mean by boundaries and marginalization?
Boundaries involve judgments about what belongs to a particular system and whose voices are marginalized, focusing on inter-relations and perspectives.
On Unlearning Ableism with Jamie Shields and Celia Chartres-Aris | Ep. 152
Q: How are you arriving today?
Jamie is in a festive mood, excited about the upcoming holidays and being able to connect with Celia in person.
On Metadesign, Emergence, and Futures with Hannah Jones and Mathilda Tham | Ep. 150
Q: How do we equip ourselves or students to lean into the awkwardness, the discomfort, the uncertainty of a kind of design that has to be flexible and evolving?
Part of it is to prepare students for feeling uncertain and uncomfortable, acknowledging that wobbliness is a normal part of the journey in creative fields.
On Creating 'Grains of Empowerment' for Women and Girls with Mil Niepold | Ep. 143
Q: What does it look like to empower women and girls?
It starts by recognizing who's missing, creating inclusive spaces, and using the why—improving innovation and team performance—to advocate for inclusion.
On Predictions, Expectations & the Neurobiology of Sensemaking with Rachel Lilley | Ep. 141
Q: What is human sensemaking and what have you learned about that through your work?
Human sensemaking is the process of making sense of our experiences, and it involves complex neurobiological factors.

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