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Talkhouse / Cup & Nuzzle
Beggars Banquet
Music Industry
Gene Loves Jezebel
The Go-Betweens
Punk Rock
The Charlatans
The Fall
Love and Rockets
1980s Music Scene
Mark E. Smith
Gary Numan
Bauhaus
Punk Music
British Music
Chicago
Women In Music
Fela Kuti
The Cult
Twin Dynamics
Rick Rubin

States of Independence dives deep into the hidden histories of the world’s greatest independent record labels with the people that know them best – the founders who built them, and the artists who made them into the stuff of rock and roll legend. In season one, it’s the saga of Beggars Banquet – an iconic punk era label that would eventually spawn an indie empire. Featuring riotous tales from labe... more

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Welcome back to States of Independence! This special episode goes deep into the story of Trunk Records, home of The Wicker Man soundtrack, Joe Harriott's Hum Dono, Michael Garrick's Moonscape, the music from Kes, Bod, The Clangers and so much more. O... more

In this last episode of the series we’re at the end of the 90s, a time when Beggars Banquet were signing a lot of guitar bands, but finding it hard to get any of them away. Derby’s own The Beekeepers struggled - the band’s ex-singer Jamie breaks down... more

Beggars contains multitudes. Here, three very different acts from its storied roster share their own experiences of the label. Buffalo Tom’s Bill Janowitz recalls emerging from the same Amherst alt rock scene that birthed Dinosaur Jr and happily stum... more

Bonus time! A story so compelling, we thought it deserved its very own episode. Behold: the full account of the fire that gutted Rick Rubin’s studio, destroyed all of Love and Rockets’ gear, and had everyone involved swearing never to dabble with a o... more

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Jamie East
Singer of The Beekeepers
The Beekeepers
Episode: Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East
Simon Neil
Vocalist and guitarist of Biffy Clyro
Biffy Clyro
Episode: Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East
Matt Berninger
Lead vocalist of The National
The National
Episode: Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East
Bill Janowitz
Member of Buffalo Tom, a significant band in the 90s indie rock scene.
Buffalo Tom
Episode: Ep 9: Buffalo Tom, Trevor Tanner, Aki Nawaz and Natacha Atlas
Trevor Tanner
Singer and songwriter of the 80s band The Bolshoi, reflecting on a grateful career.
The Bolshoi
Episode: Ep 9: Buffalo Tom, Trevor Tanner, Aki Nawaz and Natacha Atlas
Aki Nawaz
Co-founder of Nation Records, a label that worked closely with Beggars Banquet.
Nation Records
Episode: Ep 9: Buffalo Tom, Trevor Tanner, Aki Nawaz and Natacha Atlas
Natacha Atlas
Singer known for her unique blend of Arabic music with contemporary sounds.
Episode: Ep 9: Buffalo Tom, Trevor Tanner, Aki Nawaz and Natacha Atlas
Lindy Morrison
Drummer for The Go-Betweens
The Go-Betweens
Episode: Ep 7, Part 2: The Go-Betweens feat Robert Forster
Dele Shusimi
Ambassador of Afrobeat and musician
Episode: Preview: Fela Kuti: Fear No Man

Host

Rob Fitzpatrick
Host with extensive involvement in discussions around independent labels and their histories

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 50 ratings
  • Eye opening

    Suprisingly sanguine & honest music biz story that tells it how it really is in a massive band on a independant UK label. I was a twenty year old then, a sixty five year old now… mysteries have been cleared through this no holds barred truth fest.

    And you kno….. it hasnt diminished my need for this music still! Applause

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    picky neek
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • No idea

    Even though I have never heard of half of these bands, the stories are superb

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kakhuis
    Ireland7 months ago
  • Excellent Story

    What an interesting and captivating podcast. I can’t wait for another season!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    M👍H
    Canada8 months ago
  • Excellent

    Really enjoying every episode on this! Keep em coming.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Prefab Sprout
    Netherlands8 months ago
  • Exceptional

    The Beggars story is brilliantly told here, with a great balance between the artistic side and the business side of what it achieved. A hugely important chapter in cultural history captured with great skill.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WhoHe039
    United Kingdom8 months ago

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The host lets guests tell their stories with minimal steering, which feels authentic.
Insightful deep dives into indie label history and the people who built it.
Quality interviews with legendary artists and label figures; great for listeners who love music industry lore.

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Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East
Q: How did Roger and the staff at Beggars handle your transition to 4AD?
Roger was very gracious, reassuring us that we'd still work with the same team and that the change to 4AD would be seamless and beneficial for us.
Ep 6: Beggars and Charlatans! feat Tim Burgess
Q: What was the difference in dynamics when you moved from Beggars to a major label?
Tim mentions that the first thing he noticed was that they were initially signed by someone, but by the time they went to make the record, that person was no longer there, illustrating a loss of the personal touch and continuity they had with Beggars.
Ep 6: Beggars and Charlatans! feat Tim Burgess
Q: What do you remember from signing to Beggars?
Tim recalls the night they signed to Beggars, describing it as a dark and stormy night where Martin and Roger ventured out despite the harsh weather, indicating the strong commitment they showed.
Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston
Q: How does Beggars come into the situation?
Jay describes how they approached various labels, including Beggars, leading to their initial partnership.
Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston
Q: What do you mean he wasn't being very truthful?
Jay explains that Michael wasn't being honest with himself, particularly in their collaborations.

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A deep-dive into the history and impact of a major independent label, with episodes featuring its founder and a rotating roster of legendary artists and collaborators. The conversations explore artistic integrity under commercial pressures, the label's evolution from punk beginnings to a wider indie ecosystem, and the human stories behind iconic records and career moves. Viewers can expect candid recollections from musicians, label founders, and industry figures about signing, branding, transitions to major labels, and the enduring culture of independence that shaped a generation of music. Noteworthy is the ecosystem focus—how a single label helped spawn a vast indie empire—and the emphasis on personal narratives that illuminate both the cr... more

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1. Jamie East
2. Simon Neil
3. Matt Berninger
4. Bill Janowitz
5. Trevor Tanner
6. Aki Nawaz
7. Natacha Atlas
8. Lindy Morrison

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