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States of Independence

Talkhouse / Cup & Nuzzle
Beggars Banquet
Gene Loves Jezebel
Punk Rock
Music Industry
The Charlatans
The Fall
1980s Music Scene
Mark E. Smith
Gary Numan
Punk Music
British Music
Chicago
Women In Music
The Cult
Twin Dynamics
Bauhaus
Manchester
Electronic Music
Love and Rockets
The Go-Betweens

States of Independence dives deep into the hidden histories of the world’s greatest independent record labels with the people that know them best – the founders who built them, and the artists who made them into the stuff of rock and roll legend. In season one, it’s the saga of Beggars Banquet – an iconic punk era label that would eventually spawn an indie empire. Featuring riotous tales from labe... more

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Recent Guests

Tim Burgess
Lead vocalist of The Charlatans and record label owner
The Charlatans
Episode: Ep 6: Beggars and Charlatans! feat Tim Burgess
Brix Smith
Former guitarist for The Fall and ex-wife of Mark E. Smith
The Fall
Episode: Ep 5: After The Fall feat. Brix Smith
Michael Aston
Singer and musician from Gene Loves Jezebel.
Episode: Ep 4, part 2: Gene Loves Jezebel feat Michael Aston
Jay Aston
Singer and co-founder of Gene Loves Jezebel
Gene Loves Jezebel
Episode: Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston
Aki Nawaz
Drummer in Southern Death Cult and co-founder of Nation Records
Nation Records
Episode: Ep 3: Cult Following feat Billy Duffy
Gary Numan
Pioneering electronic musician known for hits like 'Cars' and 'Our Friends Electric.'
Independent Music Artist
Episode: Ep 2: Numania and The Decade of Darkness. feat. Gary Numan, John Rocca (Freeez), & Peter Murphy (Bauhaus)
Jon Rocca
Member of the band Freeez, known for electronic and funk music.
Freeez
Episode: Ep 2: Numania and The Decade of Darkness. feat. Gary Numan, John Rocca (Freeez), & Peter Murphy (Bauhaus)
Peter Murphy
Frontman of the influential goth band Bauhaus.
Bauhaus
Episode: Ep 2: Numania and The Decade of Darkness. feat. Gary Numan, John Rocca (Freeez), & Peter Murphy (Bauhaus)
Martin Mills
Founder and chairman of Beggars Group, instrumental in the evolution of independent music.
Beggars Banquet
Episode: Ep 1: Birth of the Banquet feat. Gary Numan

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Rob Fitzpatrick
Host of States of Independence, known for facilitating insightful discussions with music legends and industry figures as they share their experiences and histories.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Excellent

    Really well made episodes. He lets the guest do the talking and doesn’t push them into a direction he wants.

    Great insight into how the music industry works for some people.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mark NY UK
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Lets the topics breathe

    Love love love… nice to hear the interviews not just going into detail, but letting the personality of the participants really emerge. Fantastic stuff. Brings the era to life!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Spengolian
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Fascinating

    A great new podcast which starts with Beggars Banquet Records. From punk to the present day. In depth interviews with the main players and great production values. Essential if you love learning about music and music history

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Nigey B
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Fantastic in-depth stories behind the labels

    Really enjoying this. The podcast takes its time to really go in depth into all the stories behind the labels and is driven by some fabulous interviews.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dan_E_T
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Top new find

    An excellent idea for a podcast and great to be starting with Beggars Banquet - well worth listening for the music obsessive like me 😀

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    fcatcanon
    Canadaa month ago

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Listeners appreciate the well-crafted episodes and the thoughtful interview style that allows guests to share their insights deeply.
The production has received praise for bringing music history to life through rich storytelling and engaging narratives.
Fans highlight the unique perspective offered on the evolution of the music industry, particularly regarding punk and indie scenes.

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Ep 6: Beggars and Charlatans! feat Tim Burgess
Q: What was the difference in dynamics when you moved from Beggars to a major label?
Tim mentions that the first thing he noticed was that they were initially signed by someone, but by the time they went to make the record, that person was no longer there, illustrating a loss of the personal touch and continuity they had with Beggars.
Ep 6: Beggars and Charlatans! feat Tim Burgess
Q: What do you remember from signing to Beggars?
Tim recalls the night they signed to Beggars, describing it as a dark and stormy night where Martin and Roger ventured out despite the harsh weather, indicating the strong commitment they showed.
Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston
Q: How does Beggars come into the situation?
Jay describes how they approached various labels, including Beggars, leading to their initial partnership.
Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston
Q: What do you mean he wasn't being very truthful?
Jay explains that Michael wasn't being honest with himself, particularly in their collaborations.
Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston
Q: Do you think they had the songs?
Martin Mills confirms that the songs were indeed great.

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Frequently Asked Questions About States of Independence

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A compelling exploration of the hidden histories behind independent record labels, this series focuses particularly on Beggars Banquet, an iconic label renowned for its influence on punk music and its evolution into a powerful indie empire. Through spirited conversations with label founder Martin Mills and notable artists like Gary Numan and The Cult, listeners gain insightful perspectives on the music industry's changing dynamics, the creative struggles of artists, and the moments that defined a generation of music. Distinct for its in-depth storytelling and personal anecdotes, the podcast not only highlights the journeys of famous bands and their founders but also thoroughly captures the essence of punk rock and its lasting impact on cont... more

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Recent guests on States of Independence include:

1. Tim Burgess
2. Brix Smith
3. Michael Aston
4. Jay Aston
5. Aki Nawaz
6. Gary Numan
7. Jon Rocca
8. Peter Murphy

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