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State of Play

Tommy Geoco
Artificial Intelligence
Paper
Metalab
Flora
Contra
Bolt
Devin Matthews
Anthropic
Lovable
Ramp
Perplexity
Superpower
Tldraw
Mid Journey
Node-Based Interfaces
Artificial Intelligence In Creative Tools
Magic Path
Eric Simons
Buck
MCP

Conversations with designers, founders, and builders behind some of the best work

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Jamey Gannon is a creative director and Maven instructor teaching designers how to control AI like a creative director.

She's running brand sprints, directing image models, and building her own tools while she does it.

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Kevin Espiritu runs Epic Gardening, one of the clearest examples of a creator-led media business that became much more than content: YouTube, commerce, products, books, and Botanical Interests.

This conversation covers why Silicon Valley is suddenly... more

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Tom Krcha founded Pencil.dev after years inside the design tooling cycle, from Flash evangelism to creating Adobe XD, which gives him a rare view of where AI design tools are actually heading.

This conversation covers why agents are best at the firs... more

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Hannah Ahn is designing healthcare in the exact moment AI is making it easier than ever to take control of our health.

She leads design and marketing at Superpower, a health startup building an AI layer across bloodwork, labs, genomics, and medical ... more

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Kevin Espiritu
Founder of Epic Gardening, runs Epic Gardening on YouTube
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Episode: He Designs Channels Like He Grows Plants: Kevin Espiritu
Tom Krcha
Creator of Pencil.dev and former Adobe XD contributor; early evangelist for Flash
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Episode: Design Tools Are Going Headless: Tom Krcha
Hannah Ahn
Head of Design at Superpower, previously in product management at Canva
Superpower
Episode: AI Made Junior Designers Better Than Most Seniors: Hannah Ahn
Diego Zaks
Head of Design at Ramp (design leadership discussing AI adoption and harnesses)
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Episode: This is Design At The Most AI-Installed Company: Diego Zaks
Amelia Wattenberger
Front-end developer turned designer and founder of Intent; builds tools for developer workflows and AI-assisted coding
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Episode: Amelia Wattenberger: Designing The Next Flow State
Nad Chishtie
Head of Design at Lovable
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Episode: Nad Chishtie: Lovable's Design System For Agents
Ben Blumenrose
Designer and founder, Designer Fund
Designer Fund
Episode: Ben Blumenrose: He Sees How 50+ Design Teams Use AI. Most Are Doing It Wrong.
Josh Puckett
Designer, investor, and educator known for building design teams and launching Interface Craft; partner at Combine VC and founder of Upper Study
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Episode: Josh Puckett: Design Has Never Been More in Demand. So Why Can't Juniors Get Hired?
Jenny Wen
Designer at Anthropic, formerly led FigJam design at Figma
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Episode: Jenny Wen: She Went From FigJam to Anthropic. This Is the New Era of UX.

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AI Made Junior Designers Better Than Most Seniors: Hannah Ahn
Q: What should junior designers focus on to remain relevant in an AI-augmented design world?
Develop a genuine love for the craft, demonstrate care in details, and build a portfolio that shows high-quality, brand-aligned outcomes and a willingness to learn and iterate quickly.
AI Made Junior Designers Better Than Most Seniors: Hannah Ahn
Q: What concrete examples show how AI-enabled tooling changed your team's workflow or capabilities?
A video producer with zero coding experience created a Claude Code–driven Premiere Pro plugin that automates asset deployment, showcasing how AI literacy can empower non-technical team members to build practical solutions.
AI Made Junior Designers Better Than Most Seniors: Hannah Ahn
Q: How has your perception of user trust evolved as you've built an AI-powered health product?
Trust now hinges on clear, responsible communication and visible care in every interaction, ensuring that AI insights are understandable, clinically aligned, and accompanied by rigorous brand messaging rather than just fast outputs.
Design Tools Are Going Headless: Tom Krcha
Q: What has surprised you about who or how people have been using Pencil?
There has been a big surge in user engagement, from a small number of pages to an active discord community with thousands of contributors who share files and experimental setups, showing how agents enable deep exploration and variation.
Nad Chishtie: Lovable's Design System For Agents
Q: How does Lovable handle rollout and experimentation at scale within enterprises?
They use controlled, reversible rollouts via private beta channels, Discord, and an Enterprise Advisory Board. They avoid daily nature of YOLO UI changes, preferring partial rollouts with clear communications and feedback loops, while empowering internal teams to prototype, test, and share results openly.

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What is State of Play about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on the intersection of design, technology, and building successful creative tools and businesses. Episodes frequently feature founders, designers, and engineers discussing design tooling, AI-assisted workflows, open-source projects, design leadership, and the realities of turning craft into scalable products. Highlights include candid conversations about product strategy, community-driven ecosystems, living with constraints, and how tools shape creative work at individual and team levels. Listeners can expect practical insights on product focus, go-to-market choices for design platforms, and the culture of creative studios pushing the boundaries of what's possible with AI and design systems. A noteworthy thread across epis... more

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