
Steve Ruiz was about to start at Adobe. Bags packed. Job accepted. Start date: Monday.
Then he looked at what was happening with his side project — an open-source canvas tool he'd been building — and 200,000 people were using it every month. Hundred... more
Ben Fryc doubled his freelance salary in a year. Then his wife told him, on vacation in San Francisco, that he was working too hard.
He quit freelancing and never went back.
Ben taught himself Cinema 4D during COVID and started designing a physica... more
Andy Allen raised 5 million, built a hardware-software company, had a decent exit, and then walked away from all of it. Most founders would double down and scale.
Andy did the opposite.
He started Not Boring Software — fully bootstrapped, no inve... more
Stephen Haney has been quietly building design tools for years. Now he's betting that the canvas wants to talk to your agents.
Paper just shipped MCP support. I've been playing with it. It's wild.
We talked about why he thinks the future stack is j... more
Weber Wong was supposed to be a venture capitalist. Then he realized he wouldn't back himself, so he quit, moved to New York, and got a job at a coffee shop.
Now he's building Flora, one of the most uniquely-positioned AI tools for creative teams.
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Pietro Schirano built one of the first AI search engines before Perplexity existed. He created Cloud Engineer, an open source tool with 11,000+ GitHub stars that got him hired at Anthropic.
Now he's building @magicpathai (check it out at ma... more
Sara Vienna is the Chief Design Officer at Metalab. Slack, Uber, Coinbase... the list of products that came out of that shop is GOAT'd.
We talked about how they actually ship that work, their Tarantino process, why measuring velocity is "absolute bu... more
Lee Black has been designing for 25 years. He made those Figma pills with goldfish swimming inside. He also ran an app company that nearly broke him.
We talked about chasing money that never made him happy, why his tool stack hasn't really changed i... more
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This show centers on the intersection of design, technology, and building successful creative tools and businesses. Episodes frequently feature founders, designers, and engineers discussing design tooling, AI-assisted workflows, open-source projects, design leadership, and the realities of turning craft into scalable products. Highlights include candid conversations about product strategy, community-driven ecosystems, living with constraints, and how tools shape creative work at individual and team levels. Listeners can expect practical insights on product focus, go-to-market choices for design platforms, and the culture of creative studios pushing the boundaries of what's possible with AI and design systems. A noteworthy thread across epis... more
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Recent guests on State of Play include:
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4. Weber Wong
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7. Lee Black
8. Escha Vera
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