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Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.

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For years, the New Bedford docks were home to one of the most notorious fraudsters in Massachusetts fishing history. His name is Carlos Rafael, but you might remember him as “The Codfather.” Besides being an exciting yarn full of conspiracy and crime... more

Murder makes demands. It’s a phrase underpinning THE KEEPER, the newest novel by Tana French, an author known best for her Dublin Murder Squad series. French was born in Vermont, but grew up all over the world. She landed, finally, in Ireland, where ... more

For the first time in 30 years, a Boston policeman is facing manslaughter charges for the shooting of an unarmed carjacking suspect who was trying to flee in his car. With this move, in an important election year, Suffolk DA Kevin Hayden is garnering... more

Emily Oster, Brown University economist and author of ParentData newsletter, headlined Boston’s Globe second annual Working Mothers Summit this month. In a special live recording, Oster talks with Say More producer Anna Kusmer about why making parent... more

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Tana French
Best-selling author of the Dublin Murder Squad series; author of The Keeper
Author
Episode: A Western Set in Ireland? Once Again, Tana French Reinvents the Mystery Novel
Emily Oster
Economist, Brown University; author of Expecting Better and Crib Sheet
Brown University
Episode: BONUS Say More LIVE: Emily Oster on Why Parenting Feels Harder these Days
Louisa Thomas
Staff writer at The New Yorker; sports columnist
The New Yorker
Episode: Can Boston be a Women’s Sports Town?
Shirin Jaafari
Middle East correspondent for the World Radio Program at GBH
GBH
Episode: A Middle East Correspondent Reflects on War in Iran
Ola Ozernov-Palchik
Cognitive neuroscientist at Boston University specializing in literacy
Boston University
Episode: US Literacy Rates are Shocking. Will AI Save Us? or Make it Worse?
Abdallah Fayyad
Writer for Globe Ideas
The Boston Globe
Episode: Politics Panel: Iran, Epstein, and the Mass Senate Race
Joan Vennochi
Columnist for Globe Opinion
The Boston Globe
Episode: Politics Panel: Iran, Epstein, and the Mass Senate Race
Wendy Chung
Head of pediatrics at Boston Children's Hospital; founder of Guardian newborn screening program
Boston Children's Hospital
Episode: BONUS Say More LIVE: Rare Diseases aren’t so Rare.
Edie Widder
Deep-sea explorer, CEO of ORCA (Ocean Research and Conservation Association)
ORCA
Episode: Deep Sea Adventurer Edie Widder says, “We’re all Explorers”

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Shirley Leung
Host of intimate conversations discussing big ideas and debates.
Anna Kusmer
Producer and host.
Jim Dao
Opinion Page Editor and host.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 83 ratings
  • Cancer podcasts

    I learned a lot and appreciate you all sharing your experiences.

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    5
    Old lady Marie
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great conversation

    Really appreciated the first episode on cancer - hugely insightful, empathetic, and humane.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BakingNinja
    United Statesa year ago
  • Mediocre Libs Without Insight

    Tried to listen to the “war on the administrative state” episode. Recognizing that noted deep thinker Shirley Leung was absent, this one was really bad. Lots of feelings and vibes and straw men and very shallow analysis. No understanding of separation of powers and administrative law. Apparently the guest went to law school, not sure if it was ABA accredited.

    Then tried the Karen Read episode. Shirley has a perfect voice for a newspaper. She really should say less because it’s mostly fluff.

    Th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Logical Thinker 2
    United Statesa year ago
  • Not worth it

    If you want to be lectured by a liberal who uses a lot of buzzwords this is the podcast for you!

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    2
    Bcm7
    United States2 years ago
  • Best host!

    Excellent podcast. Shirley is a curious listener, and her questions are often exactly what I am wondering - except for when she’s a few steps ahead of me, in which case I love coming along for the ride.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HeatherSB_76
    United States2 years ago

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A Western Set in Ireland? Once Again, Tana French Reinvents the Mystery Novel
Q: How do Western tropes resonate with the West of Ireland in your books?
Western motifs—tough landscapes, community self-reliance, and a flexible code of justice—mirror Irish communities where tradition meets progress and power is often personified, not institutional.
A Western Set in Ireland? Once Again, Tana French Reinvents the Mystery Novel
Q: Why did you choose to center an American outsider in rural Ireland?
The outsider lens lets readers and characters navigate a culture with layers of nuance and historical tension, while highlighting how place shapes perception and justice.
BONUS Say More LIVE: Emily Oster on Why Parenting Feels Harder these Days
Q: It seems like because this is the Working Mothers Summit, I'd love to talk about your professional trajectory. How has parenthood changed your professional life and public profile?
Parenthood reframed Oster's work and shifted her focus toward writing about pregnancy and parenting, using her data-driven approach to help people navigate decisions; she describes reorganizing her professional life around parenting and becoming a public-facing voice.
Can Boston be a Women’s Sports Town?
Q: What have been the biggest changes for women's sports in the last 10 years, and has the quality of play improved?
The quality and speed of play have risen dramatically across sports, driven by star players, better training, and more extensive media coverage; the Caitlin Clark effect illustrates how a single star can elevate a league, and modern investments in players and marketing are translating into broader audience growth.
Deep Sea Adventurer Edie Widder says, “We’re all Explorers”
Q: What did you learn about bioluminescence that changed how you view the ocean?
She realized bioluminescence is pervasive and energetically costly, signaling that light is a critical survival tool in the deep sea and a language the ocean uses to communicate, feed, and defend.

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Targeting pressing social issues and cultural conversations, a variety of recent episodes have explored topics such as the intersections of culture and identity, political crises involving higher education, and the ethical implications of mental health within the justice system. The content is marked by intimate discussions with both established and emerging voices, providing valuable insights into influences shaping public discourse today. Listeners can expect a blend of personal storytelling with critical analyses, making it a distinctive choice for those interested in nuanced perspectives on contemporary issues.

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1. Tana French
2. Emily Oster
3. Louisa Thomas
4. Shirin Jaafari
5. Ola Ozernov-Palchik
6. Abdallah Fayyad
7. Joan Vennochi
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