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Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.

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The exact causes of autism are unknown - but you wouldn’t know that from listening to President Trump and his health secretary RFK Jr., who recently announced Tylenol was to blame. The science behind the announcement is not solid - but more troubling... more

The Boston Museum of Fine Arts has announced a major reshuffle of its American Revolutionary War galleries. The goal, it says, is to tell an ‘inclusive’ story of America’s founding. Meanwhile, in Washington, President Trump has threatened the Smithso... more

This is a re-run of the first episode of our series "The C-Word" which originally aired May 1, 2025.

Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung is generally open about her personal life. But this is the first time she is talking publicly about her own exp... more

President Donald Trump wants Harvard to cough up at least $500 million. Longtime Harvard professor Steven Pinker says it's extortion. And Harvard should do it anyway. Globe columnist Carine Hajjar, filling in for host Shirley Leung, talks to Steven P... more

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Recent Guests

Steven Pinker
Harvard professor and author
Harvard University
Episode: Steven Pinker to Harvard: Don't be a hero. Negotiate with Trump.
Leslie Forde
CEO of Mom's Hierarchy of Needs and author
Mom's Hierarchy of Needs
Episode: Leslie Forde on ways moms can beat burnout
Viet Thanh Nguyen
Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Sympathizer and public intellectual.
University of Southern California
Episode: Viet Thanh Nguyen on writing as the other
Jonathan Cohen
Author of 'Losing Big: America's Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling'
Episode: Young men are betting big on sports gambling
Dr. Kevin Churchwell
CEO of Boston Children's Hospital
Boston Children's Hospital
Episode: Say More Live: Dr. Kevin Churchwell of Boston Children’s Hospital
Kevin Sack
A longtime reporter and author, who covered the Emanuel church shooting and the ensuing history project.
The New York Times
Episode: 10 years after tragedy, a historic Black church lives on
Brooke Eby
A woman living with ALS who shares her experiences and humor through social media.
Episode: Introducing “Endless Thread”
Kelly Spill
A cancer survivor and patient advocate diagnosed with colorectal cancer at 28
Episode: The C-Word: She was 28 when she was diagnosed with cancer. She’s not alone.
Dr. Andrea Cercek
Oncologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering, specializing in young onset colorectal cancer
Memorial Sloan Kettering
Episode: The C-Word: She was 28 when she was diagnosed with cancer. She’s not alone.

Host

Shirley Leung
Host and columnist focusing on big ideas and debates, fostering intimate conversations with prominent figures that shape societal narratives.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 80 ratings
  • Cancer podcasts

    I learned a lot and appreciate you all sharing your experiences.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Old lady Marie
    United States5 months ago
  • Great conversation

    Really appreciated the first episode on cancer - hugely insightful, empathetic, and humane.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BakingNinja
    United States6 months ago
  • Mediocre Libs Without Insight

    Tried to listen to the “war on the administrative state” episode. Recognizing that noted deep thinker Shirley Leung was absent, this one was really bad. Lots of feelings and vibes and straw men and very shallow analysis. No understanding of separation of powers and administrative law. Apparently the guest went to law school, not sure if it was ABA accredited.

    Then tried the Karen Read episode. Shirley has a perfect voice for a newspaper. She really should say less because it’s mostly fluff.

    Th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Logical Thinker 2
    United States9 months ago
  • Not worth it

    If you want to be lectured by a liberal who uses a lot of buzzwords this is the podcast for you!

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Bcm7
    United Statesa year ago
  • Best host!

    Excellent podcast. Shirley is a curious listener, and her questions are often exactly what I am wondering - except for when she’s a few steps ahead of me, in which case I love coming along for the ride.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HeatherSB_76
    United Statesa year ago

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Positive remarks highlight the host's ability to facilitate thoughtful discussions with well-informed guests.

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The MFA is Changing its America Wing - Hope Trump Doesn’t Mind!
Q: How do you address concerns about diminishing the accomplishments of white men in American history?
We're going to continue to show those works of art, but we're putting them in different company to show a wider perspective.
The MFA is Changing its America Wing - Hope Trump Doesn’t Mind!
Q: What will be different in the rehang of the galleries at the museum?
We will be taking a much broader view of the period and including works by Native American artists and contemporary artists.
RERUN: The C-Word: Let’s talk about cancer – starting with my own.
Q: What surprised you about your cancer journey?
It was less of a physical battle and more of a mental one, taking me years to process my experience and realize the mental toll it took.
RERUN: The C-Word: Let’s talk about cancer – starting with my own.
Q: Why did you wait to talk publicly about your cancer?
I received good advice to focus on my treatment before sharing my story publicly, since I was going through a lot at the time.
RERUN: The C-Word: Let’s talk about cancer – starting with my own.
Q: When you were first diagnosed, what were those first couple days like?
The waiting for biopsy results was excruciating, and I felt relief mixed with disbelief when I received my cancer diagnosis over the phone.

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2. Leslie Forde
3. Viet Thanh Nguyen
4. Jonathan Cohen
5. Dr. Kevin Churchwell
6. Kevin Sack
7. Brooke Eby
8. Kelly Spill

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