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Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.

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Usually after a mass shooting, Ieva Jusionyte has a lot to say. Ieva is a scholar of gun violence at Brown University and is no stranger to the terrible power of firearms. But when a mass shooting took place at her place of work, in a building where ... more

Globe business columnist Larry Edelman says if we do have a recession in 2026, it won’t be a crash - more like air leaking out of a big balloon. This week on Say More, host Shirley Leung gets a vibe check on the economy with the author of the Globe’s... more

Writer Gish Jen recently had a revelation about her novels: her characters often talk to the dead. But in her most recent work, Bad Bad Girl, the dead talk back. In this book, Jen fictionalizes real details of her mother’s life, immigrating from Chin... more

As Americans, we are at our best when we’re engaged with the world - confident and curious. So says Marco Werman, the long-time host of public radio program The World, based at GBH here in Boston. Recent cuts to public media funding mean programs lik... more

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Recent Guests

Ieva Jusionyte
Professor of international security and anthropology at Brown University; MacArthur Genius Award recipient
Brown University
Episode: She Studies Gun Violence. Then a Mass Shooting Shattered her Campus.
Gish Jen
Novelist with a focus on cultural identity, author of "Bad Bad Girl"
Episode: Why Gish Jen Talks to The Dead
Kevin Cullen
Columnist specializing in veteran stories
The Boston Globe
Episode: A Boston Veteran’s 57-Year Journey to Find Peace
Violet Barron
Sophomore at Harvard College with a complex relationship with Judaism and Israel
Harvard University
Episode: Can Better Conversations Heal the Fractured Jewish-American Family?
Romy Neumark
Israeli journalist and creator of the podcast "My Homefronts"
My Homefronts
Episode: Can Better Conversations Heal the Fractured Jewish-American Family?
Steven Pinker
Harvard professor and author
Harvard University
Episode: Steven Pinker to Harvard: Don't be a hero. Negotiate with Trump.
Leslie Forde
CEO of Mom's Hierarchy of Needs and author
Mom's Hierarchy of Needs
Episode: Leslie Forde on ways moms can beat burnout
Viet Thanh Nguyen
Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Sympathizer and public intellectual.
University of Southern California
Episode: Viet Thanh Nguyen on writing as the other
Jonathan Cohen
Author of 'Losing Big: America's Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling'
Episode: Young men are betting big on sports gambling

Hosts

Shirley Leung
Host of insightful conversations that cover a broad range of topics from politics to culture, emphasizing personal experiences and societal issues.
Jim Dao
Editor of Globe Opinion, contributing insights into political and social discussions.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 80 ratings
  • Cancer podcasts

    I learned a lot and appreciate you all sharing your experiences.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Old lady Marie
    United States7 months ago
  • Great conversation

    Really appreciated the first episode on cancer - hugely insightful, empathetic, and humane.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BakingNinja
    United States8 months ago
  • Mediocre Libs Without Insight

    Tried to listen to the “war on the administrative state” episode. Recognizing that noted deep thinker Shirley Leung was absent, this one was really bad. Lots of feelings and vibes and straw men and very shallow analysis. No understanding of separation of powers and administrative law. Apparently the guest went to law school, not sure if it was ABA accredited.

    Then tried the Karen Read episode. Shirley has a perfect voice for a newspaper. She really should say less because it’s mostly fluff.

    Th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Logical Thinker 2
    United Statesa year ago
  • Not worth it

    If you want to be lectured by a liberal who uses a lot of buzzwords this is the podcast for you!

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Bcm7
    United Statesa year ago
  • Best host!

    Excellent podcast. Shirley is a curious listener, and her questions are often exactly what I am wondering - except for when she’s a few steps ahead of me, in which case I love coming along for the ride.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HeatherSB_76
    United States2 years ago

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Several feel the discussions are thought-provoking and well-presented, often finding new perspectives through the host's interviews.

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She Studies Gun Violence. Then a Mass Shooting Shattered her Campus.
Q: Do you think that having a mass shooting happen in your backyard might change the way you think about this topic?
Unfortunately not, as I've been exposed to gun violence for a long time, but I am concerned for the community.
She Studies Gun Violence. Then a Mass Shooting Shattered her Campus.
Q: Does motive matter to you in these cases?
Yes, understanding the motive helps to provide closure and understanding for the community affected by the tragedy.
She Studies Gun Violence. Then a Mass Shooting Shattered her Campus.
Q: Can you start by taking me through your day on December 13th? When did you hear something had happened on campus?
I was packing presents and preparing for a party, and when I checked my phone, I saw notifications about an active shooter which worried me about my students on campus.
Why Gish Jen Talks to The Dead
Q: What are your thoughts on the American Dream?
The future of the American dream is endlessly fascinating, with many immigrants still believing in some aspects of it despite facing challenges.
Why Gish Jen Talks to The Dead
Q: Could you talk about why you decided to write this book now about your mother?
I was overcome with grief after my mother died during COVID, which left me unable to write about anything else, leading to a deep exploration of my relationship with her.

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An engaging exploration of pressing societal issues, this podcast offers intimate conversations with influential personalities that help unpack complex ideas and debates. Episodes touch on a wide range of topics including AI, biotechnology, healthcare, climate change, politics, and cultural discussions, providing listeners with nuanced perspectives and personal stories related to these themes. The intimate format allows for a deep dive into the motivations and experiences of guests, making the intellectual content accessible and relatable. With a focus on real-world implications, this podcast aims to bridge the gap between major ideas and everyday life, leaving listeners with food for thought.

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1. Ieva Jusionyte
2. Gish Jen
3. Kevin Cullen
4. Violet Barron
5. Romy Neumark
6. Steven Pinker
7. Leslie Forde
8. Viet Thanh Nguyen

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