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Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.

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American legend Johnny Appleseed was from here. He hailed from North Central Massachusetts, just a couple miles down the road from Isaac Fitzgerald, a contemporary writer whose first memoir “Dirtbag, Massachusetts” told the story of his misspent yout... more

Asians are disproportionately gambling at Massachusetts casinos. They are also disproportionately addicted, in debt, and in trouble. A recent Globe investigation found that casinos have extensive strategies to target Asians and encourage them to gamb... more

We bring you a BONUS episode of Say More this week, because a debate is raging among Boston Globe columnists Larry Edelman and Shirley Leung. Larry wrote a column applauding Fidelity Investments for ordering its workers back to the office 5 days a we... more

You might know him from his best-selling book “Say Nothing,” about the Troubles in Northern Ireland. Patrick Radden Keefe, a staff writer at The New Yorker, writes nonfiction page-turners about crime and family secrets. Keefe’s new book “London Falli... more

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Recent Guests

Isaac Fitzgerald
Writer; author of American Rambler and Dirtbag, Massachusetts
Author
Episode: Isaac Fitzgerald and Johnny Appleseed are Massachusetts Dirtbags.
Chris Serres
Globe Addiction Reporter who led the investigation
Boston Globe
Episode: Are Casinos Preying on Asians in Massachusetts? A Globe Team Investigated.
Larry Edelman
Editor and journalist focusing on economics and business
Boston Globe
Episode: BONUS: At the Boston Globe, the Work from Home Debate Rages on
Patrick Radden Keefe
Author and journalist known for Say Nothing and London Falling
The New Yorker, author of London Falling
Episode: Patrick Radden Keefe on “London Falling” and his Boston Roots
Abdallah Fayyad
writer for Globe Opinion Ideas
Globe Opinion
Episode: Politics Panel: How are Israel and Palestine Affecting US Politics?
Shira Schoenberg
editorial writer for Globe Opinion
Globe Opinion
Episode: Politics Panel: How are Israel and Palestine Affecting US Politics?
Joe Kennedy III
President of Citizens Energy; former congressman from Massachusetts
Citizens Energy
Episode: Joe Kennedy III on Politics, Energy, and His Famous Family
Ian Coss
Producer with GBH News; host of the series Catching the Codfather
GBH News
Episode: Fraud, Laundering, and other Fish Crimes. Who was “The Codfather”?
Tana French
Best-selling author of the Dublin Murder Squad series; author of The Keeper
Author
Episode: A Western Set in Ireland? Once Again, Tana French Reinvents the Mystery Novel

Hosts

Shirley Leung
Host of intimate conversations discussing big ideas and debates.
Anna Kusmer
Producer and host.
Jim Dao
Opinion Page Editor and host.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 83 ratings
  • Cancer podcasts

    I learned a lot and appreciate you all sharing your experiences.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Old lady Marie
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great conversation

    Really appreciated the first episode on cancer - hugely insightful, empathetic, and humane.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BakingNinja
    United Statesa year ago
  • Mediocre Libs Without Insight

    Tried to listen to the “war on the administrative state” episode. Recognizing that noted deep thinker Shirley Leung was absent, this one was really bad. Lots of feelings and vibes and straw men and very shallow analysis. No understanding of separation of powers and administrative law. Apparently the guest went to law school, not sure if it was ABA accredited.

    Then tried the Karen Read episode. Shirley has a perfect voice for a newspaper. She really should say less because it’s mostly fluff.

    Th... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Logical Thinker 2
    United Statesa year ago
  • Not worth it

    If you want to be lectured by a liberal who uses a lot of buzzwords this is the podcast for you!

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Bcm7
    United States2 years ago
  • Best host!

    Excellent podcast. Shirley is a curious listener, and her questions are often exactly what I am wondering - except for when she’s a few steps ahead of me, in which case I love coming along for the ride.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HeatherSB_76
    United States2 years ago

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Isaac Fitzgerald and Johnny Appleseed are Massachusetts Dirtbags.
Q: How does Massachusetts shape your storytelling and your sense of identity?
The guest discusses regional pride, the scrappy dirtbag identity, and how the state's contrasts—wealth and poverty, education and disenfranchisement—inform both his memoirs and his readings of others.
Isaac Fitzgerald and Johnny Appleseed are Massachusetts Dirtbags.
Q: Why did you choose to retrace Johnny Appleseed's travels and what does that reveal about him?
Fitzgerald explains that he wanted to uncover the real complexities behind the legend and connect with the land and people he encountered, showing how myths can be both inspirational and imperfect.
Patrick Radden Keefe on “London Falling” and his Boston Roots
Q: How did you first come to this story and decide to write London Falling?
Keefe explains an offhand conversation in London inspired the book, where a stranger hinted at a family tragedy and a double life, leading him to investigate the underpinnings of wealth and power in London.
BONUS: At the Boston Globe, the Work from Home Debate Rages on
Q: What would keep Boston's downtown vibrant in the era of hybrid work?
A combination of thoughtful city support, incentives for in-person collaboration, and employer flexibility to attract talent while maintaining the benefits of remote work.
BONUS: At the Boston Globe, the Work from Home Debate Rages on
Q: Is it feasible for every company to require five days in the office?
No, the discussion frames it as a nuanced issue where some flexibility is necessary, and decisions should be tailored to company needs and employee circumstances.

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Targeting pressing social issues and cultural conversations, a variety of recent episodes have explored topics such as the intersections of culture and identity, political crises involving higher education, and the ethical implications of mental health within the justice system. The content is marked by intimate discussions with both established and emerging voices, providing valuable insights into influences shaping public discourse today. Listeners can expect a blend of personal storytelling with critical analyses, making it a distinctive choice for those interested in nuanced perspectives on contemporary issues.

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Say More launched 3 years ago and published 158 episodes to date. You can find more information about this podcast including rankings, audience demographics and engagement in our podcast database.

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1. Isaac Fitzgerald
2. Chris Serres
3. Larry Edelman
4. Patrick Radden Keefe
5. Abdallah Fayyad
6. Shira Schoenberg
7. Joe Kennedy III
8. Ian Coss

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