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PodBiz | Where's The Money In Podcasting?

Norma Jean Belenky & John Kiernan
Podcasting
Podcast Monetization
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Monetization Strategies
Podcast Advertising
Audience Engagement
Monetization
Community Engagement
Independent Creators
Audience Development
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Podcasting Industry
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Where's the money in podcasting? Hosted by Norma Jean Belenky and John Kiernan, PodBiz dives into the strategies, trends, and tools driving podcast monetization and industry growth. From ad revenue and branded content to audience development and production workflows, we spotlight the real business behind the mic.

Each week, we speak with creators, executives, and innovators answering the one quest... more

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Latest Episodes

What does it take to build a sustainable podcast business now that the easy money has disappeared?

Helen Parker, managing director and co-founder of Strange Magic, joins PodBiz to discuss what podcasting looks like as the industry moves beyond its s... more

What if a podcast campaign is working but the advertiser’s measurement tools cannot see the full impact?

Jim Ballas, President of Measurement at Magellan AI, joins PodBiz to discuss podcast attribution, audience data and how better measurement can h... more

What changes when podcasters stop renting access to an audience and start building a media business they own?

Ainsley Rossitto, Head of Podcasts at beehiiv, joins PodBiz to discuss audience ownership, podcast monetization and the tools creators can ... more

Are subscriptions really the most sustainable source of owned revenue in podcasting—and in media?

In this episode of PodBiz, Norma Jean Belenky speaks with Eric Barnett, Vice President of Revenue at Supporting Cast, about the power and strategy beh... more

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Recent Guests

Ainsley Rossitto
Head of Podcasts at Beehive
Beehive
Episode: How to Build a Creator-Owned Podcast Business with Ainsley Rossitto of beehiiv
Eric Barnett
Vice President of Revenue at Supporting Cast
Supporting Cast
Episode: Leveraging Bonus Content and Subscriptions for Monetization with Eric Barnett of Supporting Cast
Ricardo Neto
Managing Director of US Sales at Acast
Acast
Episode: Why Brands Are Investing Beyond Podcast Downloads with Ricardo Neto of Acast
Rebecca Dalby
VP of Demand at Triton
Triton Digital
Episode: Why Independent Podcasters Need More Than Downloads with Rebecca Dalby of Triton
Stella Young
Producer and owner of Tiny Legends; co-host of This Is TV Now
Tiny Legends
Episode: Building Creator-Owned Media with Stella Young of Tiny Legends and This Is TV Now
Rodrigo Tigre
President and Co-founder of Ozen.fm
Ozen.fm
Episode: The Future of Podcast Advertising in Latin America with Rodrigo Tigre
Joe Fucigna
Creator membership specialist
Independent / Membership consulting
Episode: Building a Sustainable and Successful Podcast Membership Model with Joe Fucigna
Sean Howard
Founder and CEO of Flightpath
Flightpath
Episode: Why Podcast Advertising Still Runs on Predictions, Not Certainty with Sean Howard
Tom Webster
Partner at Sounds Profitable
Sounds Profitable
Episode: What Podcast Metrics Actually Matter? Tom Webster on Discovery, Data & the Future of Audio

Hosts

Norma Jean Belenky
Host of PodBiz and founder of NJB Media; focused on podcast monetization, media strategy, and audience development.
John Kiernan
Co‑host of PodBiz; specializes in podcast production, platform economics, and creator monetization.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 22 ratings
  • Norma Jean is a fantastic host. Very polished but still personable and fun to listen to.

    If you're trying to get the most out of your podcasting journey. You've got to listen to PodBiz.

    Podchaser
    5
    SethGoldstein
    19 days ago
  • An important conversation

    This is a well done show that asks an important question for the people who want to sustainably create audio

    podcasts.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    😄😎👠
    United States8 months ago
  • Lily

    This is a must listen for anyone who works or is interested in content! Podcasting is such an exciting explosion in the media world and this pod will certainly get you up to date.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LilyLilyLily_L
    United Kingdom9 months ago
  • Great content…audio got better!

    First couple episodes had some rough audio but they fixed it…much better now!

    this could be a new podcast industry “go to” podcast. 😊

    Great info and guests for the podcasters looking to monetize.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    spbennie
    United Statesa year ago
  • Loved the death of the download

    10/10, great editing, to the point. Doesn’t waste your time. Love love this! Keep bringing industry PROs

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    america.turner
    Canadaa year ago

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Shows expertise in monetization and industry trends, with strong guest quality.
Some listeners wish for faster production quality while keeping high-value guests.
Audio quality has varied early on but has improved; content remains valuable for monetization strategies.

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How to Build a Creator-Owned Podcast Business with Ainsley Rossitto of beehiiv
Q: If you had to start over today, what would you do differently to grow faster or smarter?
Try everything with a unique lens, don't copy others, and tailor strategies to your show's audience and format. Avoid relying on a rinse-and-repeat approach and instead experiment across channels while maintaining a strong, differentiated voice.
How to Build a Creator-Owned Podcast Business with Ainsley Rossitto of beehiiv
Q: What are newsletter best practices that podcasters should consider when integrating with Beehive?
Consistency is key, integrate podcast content into the newsletter with compelling hooks, provide clear listening instructions, and use features like embedded players to reduce friction. Regular segments and A/B testing subject lines help grow engagement and ensures the newsletter complements the podcast rather than merely announcing new episodes.
How to Build a Creator-Owned Podcast Business with Ainsley Rossitto of beehiiv
Q: Ainsley, what would you say is one key move or metric or even a mindset that's made the biggest impact on your podcasting career and the audience development side?
The biggest impact has been embracing the creator perspective; every creator is different, so there is no one-size-fits-all approach. Instead, focus on understanding your audience, prioritizing the metrics that truly matter for your show, and customizing growth strategies to fit that unique audience and format.
Leveraging Bonus Content and Subscriptions for Monetization with Eric Barnett of Supporting Cast
Q: What are the practical considerations for networks versus independent shows when launching subscriptions?
Networks require coordination across many shows and a centralized champion to manage content delivery and promotion, whereas independents can move faster but must manage consistency and the content pipeline on their own.
Leveraging Bonus Content and Subscriptions for Monetization with Eric Barnett of Supporting Cast
Q: Eric, what is the core value proposition of a podcast subscription and how should creators start?
The core value is owning your audience revenue through meaningful bonus content, with a simple, attainable starting point—usually one clear tier and a straightforward plan that you can execute without overburdening production. Promotion and consistency are essential.

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Frequently Asked Questions About PodBiz

What is PodBiz about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A practical, business-focused show that explores how money moves in podcasting, from ad deals and branded content to memberships, cross‑platform monetization, and creator ecosystems. Episodes center on monetization strategies, measurement, and platform economics, with guests ranging from platform executives to independent creators and agency leaders. The conversations often highlight actionable frameworks, real-world revenue models, and the evolving role of video, newsletters, and community-building in driving sustainable income for podcasters and networks. The show tends to feature guests who are industry operators or subject-matter experts, offering tactical guidance for creators looking to scale revenue, build audiences, and partner effe... more

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1. Ainsley Rossitto
2. Eric Barnett
3. Ricardo Neto
4. Rebecca Dalby
5. Stella Young
6. Rodrigo Tigre
7. Joe Fucigna
8. Sean Howard

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