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People Property Place

Matthew Watts
Rental Housing
Assisted Living
Senior Living
Real Estate Development
Social Impact
Real Estate
Economic Impact Of Housing
Bridges Fund Management
Building Homes
Sustainability
Intergenerational Living
Home Ownership Vs. Renting
Investment Management
Asset Management
Real Estate Investment
Industrial Real Estate
Real Estate Investment Management
Diversity and Inclusion
Lendinvest
Property Finance

Interviewing the leaders shaping the real estate investment management industry. Hosted by Matthew Watts, Founder of Rockbourne. Join our growing community that sits at the intersection of real estate and media. www.peoplepropertyplace.com

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This week, I sat down with James Jacobs, Managing Director and Global Head of Real Assets within the Private Capital Advisory team at Lazard, to explore the topic Real Asset Capital Formation: Who Wins?

In this conversation, James opens with a stri... more

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This week on People Property Place, we do something different. Recorded live on the ground at Mipim in Cannes, this episode is the first of a new format: People Property Place Profiles. Where I walk and talk with some of the most outspoken and influe... more

This week, I sat down with Toby Phelps, Co-President of BGO, who has spent 30 years at the top of European real estate investing and been involved in over $20 billion of transactions across logistics, office, retail, residential and healthcare assets... more

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This week, I sat down with Mathieu Elshout to explore the journey that took him from environmental sciences into institutional real estate investing, and how he is now helping build the European property platform for one of Australia's fastest growin... more

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Shaun Simons
Co-Founder of Compton
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Matthew Elshout
Head of European Property at Aware Super
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Episode: Mathieu Elshout, Head of European Property at Aware Super – Why the Real Estate Distress Wave Never Came
Michael Zerda
CEO of Deva Capital; Global Head of Real Estate for Santander Alternative Investments
Deva Capital; Santander Alternative Investments
Episode: Michael Zerda, Global Head of Real Estate at Santander - Logic, Risk, and the Search for Asymmetric Reward
Emma Cariaga
Chief Operating Officer, British Land
British Land
Episode: Emma Cariaga, COO at British Land – Why Scale Is Reshaping Listed Real Estate
Andrew Hynard
Senior Advisor & Non Executive Director with extensive experience in the UK real estate market
Episode: Andrew Hynard, Senior Advisor & Non Executive Director - The UK Property Market Is at an Inflection Point
Pavel Streblov
Managing Director and Board Member at Penta Real Estate
Penta Real Estate
Episode: Pavel Streblov, Managing Director and Board Member at Penta Real Estate – Why Penta Is Buying Into London at the Bottom
Niall Farmer
Head of Gamuda Land UK, an expert in real estate development and investment.
Gamuda Land
Episode: Niall Farmer, Head of UK Gamuda Land – How Global Capital Really Chooses UK Property Partners
Simon Wallace
Head of UK Real Estate and Global Co-Head of Research at DWS
DWS
Episode: Simon Wallace, Head of UK Real Estate & Global Co-Head of Research DWS – Strategy, Cycles and Conviction in Real Estate
Dean Harrison
Founder of Harleyford Capital
Harleyford Capital
Episode: #133 Dean Harrison, Founder of Harleyford Capital

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Matthew Watts
Host of the show, founder of Rockbourne; leads discussions with leaders shaping real estate investment management.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 105 ratings
  • Fresh & insightful look at people & property

    Highly recommended for anyone wanting to improve their knowledge and understanding of the hearts and minds that shape the real estate industry.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Robin J Ellis
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Insightful!

    Really enjoying these podcasts! Insightful discussions that provide real value across a broad range of property markets and topics. A real gem.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tom Charrier
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Insightful content and industry insights

    Very valuable insights for some great minds in the real estate industry.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sdgve
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Great Property Podcast

    The People, Property, Place podcast is always insightful into the leaders and innovators in our industry. The guests always offer insightful commentary on trends in the market, as well as views and opinions across sector. I personally found the podcast very helpful in my job search and discussions with Rockbourne as I was able to listen to my future employers episode to understand the company’s story and their plans for the future before we had even met. This offered a chance to really understan... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    katiejane95
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Must listen for property professionals

    This is a must listen for anyone looking to understand the movers and shakers in the UK property industry

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jussajus
    United Kingdom3 years ago

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Toby Phelps, Co-President of BGO - From Lehman Collapsing Next Door to Leading a $100 Billion Real Estate Platform
Q: What led to the move from Morgan Stanley to Tishman, Spier, and later to Green Oak?
He describes the disruptive climate after Lehman, a preference for private real estate over public volatility, and an opportunity from Eric Adler to move to Tishman, followed by a long-term collaboration with John Carrefele and Sunny (now leadership at BGO/SLC) that culminated in founding Green Oak and later merging with Bentall Kennedy to scale the platform.
Toby Phelps, Co-President of BGO - From Lehman Collapsing Next Door to Leading a $100 Billion Real Estate Platform
Q: How did you get into real estate in the first place?
Toby explains growing up on a Kent farm, initially engaging with a developer through site visits, pursuing a real estate degree, and then starting at JLL, which built his network and exposed him to both investment and advisory work, ultimately steering him toward private real estate investing.
Michael Zerda, Global Head of Real Estate at Santander - Logic, Risk, and the Search for Asymmetric Reward
Q: What was the pivotal moment that pushed you toward real estate over tech investments?
Seeing the tangible nature of real estate and its comparably transparent value, versus the inflated and uncertain projections of dot-com valuations, convinced him to pivot, realizing he could judge value more reliably by the real asset and market reality.
Emma Cariaga, COO at British Land – Why Scale Is Reshaping Listed Real Estate
Q: For someone listening who might want to move into an executive role, what tips would you offer about transitioning from hands-on work to leadership?
She emphasizes embracing variety, building a strong team, delegating, and leveraging non-exec roles to sharpen strategy and questions leadership will face, arguing that twin-tracking can supercharge a career.
Emma Cariaga, COO at British Land – Why Scale Is Reshaping Listed Real Estate
Q: So tell me, how did you get into real estate in the first place, and what shaped your career path?
Emma describes her early path from town planning to land buying, encouraged by a geography teacher, and how rapid responsibilities at Barrett and later Landsec accelerated her learning and career.

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What is People Property Place about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A market-focused conversation series exploring how leaders in real estate investment management run large-scale portfolios, develop campuses, and integrate technology and data into leasing, asset management, and capital strategies. Episodes often center on strategic positioning of listed and private real estate, the evolving role of operations, and the impact of disruptive tech, flexible spaces, and housing affordability on investment decisions. Noteworthy angles include leadership journeys, cross-market expansion, partnerships, and the balance between traditional real estate expertise and modern, data-driven approaches.

The show tends to feature C-suite and senior leadership from real estate developers, asset managers, and investment firm... more

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Recent guests on People Property Place include:

1. Shaun Simons
2. Matthew Elshout
3. Michael Zerda
4. Emma Cariaga
5. Andrew Hynard
6. Pavel Streblov
7. Niall Farmer
8. Simon Wallace

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