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Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

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Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

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In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark talk with Joel Beeke about his new book A Thriving and Lifelong Ministry: Cultivating Spiritual and Pastoral Vitality for the Long Haul. With pastors leaving ministry in droves, Joel makes the case f... more

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark sit down with Mez McConnell, founder of 20schemes, to hear his remarkable testimony and the story of his ministry to Scotland’s “schemes” — the poor, multi-generational housing communities most of th... more

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In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark are joined by Ben Lacey and Dr. Matthew Bingham to discuss Bingham’s new book A Heart Aflame for God: A Reformed Approach to Spiritual Formation. Together they survey some of the popular approaches t... more

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In this episode of Pastors Talk, Alex Duke fills in for Mark Dever to talk with Jonathan Leeman about his book, Using Authority Well: A Concise Guide for Men. Jonathan makes the case that authority is not a necessary evil but a gift from God; one mea... more

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Matthew Bingham
Campus dean and professor of theology at Talbot School of Theology
Talbot School of Theology
Episode: On A Heart Aflame for God (Ep. 346)
Ben Lacey
Pastor of Trinity River Baptist Church
Trinity River Baptist Church
Episode: On A Heart Aflame for God (Ep. 346)
Jonathan Leeman
Author of “Using Authority Well: A Concise Guide for Men” and “Authority”
9Marks
Episode: On Using Authority Well (Ep. 345)
Sean DeMars
Author of Redemption Song
Glory Community Church / Christian Focus
Episode: On Redemption Song (Ep. 344)
Ryan Robertson
President of Reaching and Teaching International; elder at 3rd Avenue Baptist Church, Louisville
Reaching and Teaching International; 3rd Avenue Baptist Church
Episode: On The Path to Being a Missionary (Ep. 343)
Connie Dever
Mark Dever's wife, involved in pastors' wives outreach
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Episode: On Being a Pastor's Wife (Ep. 342)
Matt Boswell
Pastor of Trails Church; hymn writer
Trails Church
Episode: On Hymn Writing with Matt Boswell (Ep. 341)
David Lawrence
Senior pastor / lead pastor at Erbil Baptist Church
Erbil Baptist Church
Episode: On Ministry in Kurdistan (Ep. 340)
Jeremy Barker
Member of Capitol Hill Baptist Church for a decade; works with Mustard Seed Foundation
Mustard Seed Foundation; Capitol Hill Baptist Church
Episode: On Ministry in Kurdistan (Ep. 340)

Hosts

Jonathan Leeman
Host of Pastors Talk with frequent focus on topics like church governance, elder leadership, and doctrinal clarity.
Mark Dever
Co-host known for framing conversations around church health, governance, and pastoral ministry.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.2k ratings
  • Edifying…and a little funny…

    I’m not the intended audience. I’m a Complementarian-minded middle-aged woman, but there is still much to glean. And do yourself a favor and listen to episode #329, which begins with an improvised, harmonized hummed rendition of “And Can It Be”. I had to pull the car over…

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Steenspurgeon
    United States6 months ago
  • Great Podcast!

    Very helpful and edifying!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mattjamesdixon
    United States10 months ago
  • Mark Devers and Nemo’s dad provide a very helpful resource!

    I have been encouraged and helped by the content produced in this podcast! Thanks, guys.

    Also… Jonathan sounds just like Marlin, Nemo’s dad.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BadAtGolf08
    United Statesa year ago
  • Truly formational

    This has been one of the resources that has shaped and formed my ecclesiology almost more than anything outside the Bible.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Saolomon
    United Statesa year ago
  • Pastoral Lifeline

    So grateful for this podcast. Consistent clarity and wisdom

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KTMJosh
    United States2 years ago

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Some listeners note strong opinions or style but still find the content edifying and gospel-centered.
Listeners praise the show for its practical, biblically grounded guidance for church leadership.
Feedback highlights the hosts' clarity and helpful frameworks, especially on elder governance and budgeting.

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On Using Authority Well (Ep. 345)
Q: How can someone under bad authority grow in godly submission?
Leeman recommends seeking good models, such as faithful pastors and Christians, and spending time observing how they exercise authority. He also emphasizes that submission to unjust authority does not mean remaining in an abusive situation: people should seek help and leave when necessary.
On Using Authority Well (Ep. 345)
Q: What does the Bible teach us about authority, and which passages illuminate the topic?
Leeman frames authority through creation, the fall, redemption, and glorification. He points to Genesis 1 and Psalm 8 to show people were created to rule, Mark 10:45 for authority expressed through service, and 2 Samuel 23 and Psalm 72 for just authority that brings life and flourishing.
On A Heart Aflame for God (Ep. 346)
Q: How does Scripture actually work in a person to form the soul?
Bingham describes spiritual formation as taking up the means God has given: hearing His Word, meditating on it, and praying in response. In believers who are born again, the Spirit uses these means over time to shape them.
On A Heart Aflame for God (Ep. 346)
Q: What is the animating principle of John Mark Comer's rule of life approach to spiritual formation?
Matthew Bingham says a rule of life can offer practical structure, but it risks placing biblical commands and optional advice on the same level. He emphasizes distinguishing God's commands and appointed means from practices that may or may not be helpful.
On Hymn Writing with Matt Boswell (Ep. 341)
Q: How does pastoral care influence hymn writing?
He writes with specific people in mind, including family and church members going through hardship, viewing hymn writing as an act of pastoral care and expositing scripture through song.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Pastors Talk

What is Pastors Talk about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on practical church leadership, pastoral ministry, and healthy gospel-centered governance. Through candid conversations between two experienced pastors, episodes tackle topics like leadership development, church discipline, pastoral care, budgeting and reimbursement, and thebalance between doctrinal clarity and pastoral empathy. Notable strengths include a consistent focus on elder leadership, accountability, and tangible frameworks (e.g., job descriptions for pastors and deacons) to equip ministry teams. A recurring impression is a emphasis on biblical fidelity, practical wisdom for running a healthy local church, and a willingness to tackle sensitive topics with pastoral candor. Potential listeners who want actionable gu... more

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1. Matthew Bingham
2. Ben Lacey
3. Jonathan Leeman
4. Sean DeMars
5. Ryan Robertson
6. Connie Dever
7. Matt Boswell
8. David Lawrence

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