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No Way Out: The #1 Podcast on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, The Flow System, and Navigating UncertaintySponsored by AGLX — a global network powering adaptive leadership, enterprise agility, and resilient teams in complex, high-stakes environments.Home to the deepest explorations of Colonel John R. Boyd’s OODA Loop (Observe–Orient–Decide–Act), Destruction and Creation, Patterns of Conflict — and the offic... more

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A Marine’s war doesn’t end when orders do. Matthew Ryba takes us from boot camp before 9/11 through Ramadi and Marja—lost friends, near misses, and a night spent in a fallen lieutenant’s rack that changed his trajectory—and into a lab wh... more

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Outrage is cheap. Orientation is priceless. We bring a counterintelligence lens to the daily firehose of headlines and hot takes, showing how narratives are built to hijack your attention, flood your emotions, and outsource your decis... more

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What if the human brain isn’t a calculator but a story engine built for action under uncertainty? That single shift reframes strategy, leadership, and the OODA loop. Angus Fletcher—neuroscientist, author of Primal Intelligence, and ad... more

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Imagine stepping off the freezing Manhattan street and finding a steady warmth at the bottom of your breath. That’s the thread running through our conversation with Jody Weiss—meditator, community builder, and co-host of Exploring Rea... more

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Frederick P. Stein
Colonel with experience in Network Centric Warfare and the Joint Staff.
Formerly with the Joint Staff and AGLX
Episode: Network Centric Warfare: OODA Loop, John Boyd, and Creating Operational Flow
Dr. Yuval Neria
Pioneer in PTSD research and treatment, combat veteran.
Columbia University
Episode: Reorienting After Trauma: From Yom Kippur War Hero to PTSD Pioneer | Dr. Yuval Neria
Ed Brenegar
Author and speaker specializing in leadership and adaptive frameworks
Episode: OODA Loop: Reorientation, Flow, and Adaptive Leadership with Ed Brenegar
Luiz von Paumgarten
A patent attorney and author of 'The Abstractionist's Papers.'
Welcome to the Bluespace
Episode: Unlocking Reality: OODA Loops, Emergence, and the Mind's Hidden Boundaries
Jerry Parker
An experienced trend follower and one of the original turtle traders.
Episode: Trend Following Warfare: John Boyd's OODA Loop in Trading
Mike Melissinos
A seasoned trader specializing in trend following strategies.
Episode: Trend Following Warfare: John Boyd's OODA Loop in Trading
Dr. Mihaela Ulieru
A thought leader in robotics and control theory.
Episode: Sun Tzu to AI: OODA Loop – Moral Conflict, Human Flourishing, or Dependency?
Jon Becker
CEO of Aardvark Tactical, author, and expert in OODA Loop applications
Aardvark Tactical
Episode: Beyond the Linear OODA Loop: Jon Becker Breaks Down Authentic OODA Loop
Max Borders
Writer and commentator from The World of Reorientation
Episode: Unrestricted Decline: Debt, Inflation and The Road to Serfdom (w/ Max Borders)

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Mark McGrath
Co-host and primary voice discussing military strategy and adaptive leadership principles.
Brian Pont Rivera
Co-host providing insights from the business and educational sectors, focusing on the application of themes discussed.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 70 ratings
  • Horrible

    Trend following! Very intellectual

    Apple Podcasts
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    No11111166666
    United States2 months ago
  • Too much politics

    What previously was a great podcast has degraded into politics and trumpism.

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    Christian Fredriksson
    Swedena year ago
  • Horrible

    Andrew mcluhan... horrible... just talks garbage.... terrible

    Sorry for the rating

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    No11111166666
    United Statesa year ago
  • Interesting and Informative

    Great topics and diverse guests always with a tie-in to Boyd’s OODA loop and how that can help you be better at whatever you do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mdbelmo
    United Statesa year ago
  • Really thought provoking, excellent guests

    I like it a lot

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barks787
    Australiaa year ago

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Generally regarded as insightful with thought-provoking content, particularly around strategic applications of the OODA loop.
Praised for featuring diverse guests with relevant expertise that ties back to core themes.
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Some critiques suggest a disconnect between military-focused discussions and broader audience relevance.

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Presence That Works in Real Life: Jody Weiss on Attention Training, Nervous System Regulation, and Micro-Practices for High-Pressure Leaders
Q: What do you think about the current state of discussing psychedelics?
Talking about psychedelics has shifted significantly in the past 25 years, moving from taboo to a focus on their therapeutic potential, providing hope for healing from trauma and depression.
Sun Tzu to AI: OODA Loop – Moral Conflict, Human Flourishing, or Dependency?
Q: Can you talk about how that connection to technology, that dependency on technology, is a closed system?
Dr. Ulieru provides insights on control theory and the importance of allowing systems to adapt and interact with their environment.
MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
Q: What can you tell us about blending SSRIs and ketamine?
Ketamine can be safely mixed with SSRIs; it doesn't harm nor interfere with their effects, which may enhance treatment outcomes.
MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
Q: Can ketamine help with substance abuse disorders?
Some studies suggest ketamine may help with alcoholism and other substance use disorders, but it requires a comprehensive treatment plan.
The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
Q: Mitchell, can you take us back to the history of the snowmobile?
Mitchell Johnson explains that his father and uncle founded Polaris Industries post WWII, and they innovatively created the snowmobile by synthesizing available materials and technologies.

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Centered around the concepts developed by Colonel John Boyd, the content focuses on the OODA Loop framework, which is used to enhance decision-making and agility across various high-stakes environments including business, military, and personal contexts. There is a strong emphasis on topics such as adaptive leadership, mental health, and innovative strategies to navigate uncertainty, all framed within a broader exploration of dynamic systems and the complexities of modern decision-making. Additionally, discussions often feature expert guests who lend insights on applying these concepts in practical settings, making the content not only thought-provoking but also applicable to various professional fields.

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