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John Boyd
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OODA Loop
PTSD
LSD
Norman Ohler
a-10 Thunderbolt II
Human-Centered Design
Alzheimer's Disease
Complexity Theory
Mental Health Crisis
Risk Management
Neuroscience
Agile Methodologies
Liberating Structures
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Nazi Germany
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Vietnam War
Psychological Safety

No Way Out: The #1 Podcast on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, The Flow System, and Navigating UncertaintySponsored by AGLX — a global network powering adaptive leadership, enterprise agility, and resilient teams in complex, high-stakes environments.Home to the deepest explorations of Colonel John R. Boyd’s OODA Loop (Observe–Orient–Decide–Act), Destruction and Creation, Patterns of Conflict — and the offic... more

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Explore the authentic OODA loop with Jon Becker on No Way Out Podcast – John Boyd's strategies for tactical leadership and decision making

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What if the maps we’re all using are lying to us?

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A grain elevator turned upside down. A Chevy bumper cut in half. A Model T steering sector pulled from the yard. That’s not a lab; that’s the birth of the modern snowmobile—and the clearest proof that real creativity starts with what’... more

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What if relief wasn’t months away, but days? We sit down with ER physician and Ember Health cofounder Dr. Nico Grundmann to unpack how IV ketamine delivers fast, measurable change for people living with depression, PTSD, and suicidal ... more

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Recent Guests

Mitchell Johnson
His family founded Polaris Industries and created the snowmobile.
Polaris Industries
Episode: The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
Dr. Nico Grundmann
Emergency physician and co-founder of Ember Health
Ember Health
Episode: MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
David Cochrane
Head coach and director of basketball operations at Norfolk Collegiate School
Norfolk Collegiate School
Episode: From Cockpit to Hardwood: OODA Loop & CLA Basketball with David Cochrane
Tib Roibu
Romanian researcher focused on cognitive systems and geometric cognition.
Episode: Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
Ben Ford
Royal Marine Commando with extensive experience and knowledge in Boyd's theories
Episode: Agentic AI Thinks Like Boyd: The OODA Upgrade LLMs Can’t Touch
Brent Sadler
Retired U.S. Navy Captain and strategic thinker
Heritage Foundation
Episode: Naval Power in Action with CAPT Brent Sadler, USN (Ret.)
Dan Mapes
Director of the Spatial Web Foundation and Founder of Verses AI
Spatial Web Foundation, Verses AI
Episode: Spatial Web + Active Inference: Beyond LLMs | Dan Mapes
Warren Mansell
Professor of Mental Health at the Enable Institute at Curtin University
Curtin University
Episode: Military Hardware to Mental Health: Perceptual Control Theory with Warren Mansell, PhD
Dr. Julia Mossbridge
Expert in telepathy, consciousness, and cognitive neuroscience
Episode: Autism, Telepathy and New "Outside" Information with Dr. Julia Mossbridge

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Mark McGrath
Brian Ponch Rivera

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 69 ratings
  • Too much politics

    What previously was a great podcast has degraded into politics and trumpism.

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    Christian Fredriksson
    Sweden10 months ago
  • Horrible

    Andrew mcluhan... horrible... just talks garbage.... terrible

    Sorry for the rating

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    No11111166666
    United Statesa year ago
  • Interesting and Informative

    Great topics and diverse guests always with a tie-in to Boyd’s OODA loop and how that can help you be better at whatever you do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mdbelmo
    United Statesa year ago
  • Really thought provoking, excellent guests

    I like it a lot

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barks787
    Australiaa year ago
  • Insightful and Thought provoking

    Love the show! Insightful and thought provoking.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cBass-2
    United Statesa year ago

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MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
Q: What can you tell us about blending SSRIs and ketamine?
Ketamine can be safely mixed with SSRIs; it doesn't harm nor interfere with their effects, which may enhance treatment outcomes.
MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
Q: Can ketamine help with substance abuse disorders?
Some studies suggest ketamine may help with alcoholism and other substance use disorders, but it requires a comprehensive treatment plan.
The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
Q: Mitchell, can you take us back to the history of the snowmobile?
Mitchell Johnson explains that his father and uncle founded Polaris Industries post WWII, and they innovatively created the snowmobile by synthesizing available materials and technologies.
Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
Q: Why is this research important?
It aims to understand our own subjectivity and its relation to something bigger, examining the nature of consciousness.
Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
Q: Can you explain what polynon is?
The polynomial is a measure of the non-measurable, representing consciousness through geometric principles.

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Focused on the intricacies of decision-making and performance in high-pressure environments, this podcast explores various concepts related to John R. Boyd's OODA Loop framework. Episodes delve into themes such as artificial intelligence, organizational safety, human performance, and adaptive strategies, often featuring insightful discussions with experts from diverse backgrounds, including military, healthcare, and technology sectors. Noteworthy is the commitment to intertwining academic theories with practical applications, aiming to enhance listeners' understanding of complex systems and improve decision-making skills in volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous (VUCA) environments.

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