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UnJustified

MSW Media
Donald Trump
Department Of Justice
Jack Smith
Supreme Court
January 6th
Trump Administration
FBI
Special Counsel
Alien Enemies Act
Civil Liberties
January 6th Insurrection
Eileen Cannon
Due Process
Presidential Immunity
Trump
Justice Department
Kash Patel
Judge Chutkan
Jim Comey
Mike Pence

The creator of Mueller, She Wrote, Allison Gill, and former Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, are documenting the erosion of civil liberties and the rule of law under Trump's DoJ.

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Donald Trump floated recycled false 2020 election claims during a national address Thursday night.

Kash Patel fired two FBI intelligence analysts that refused to join the investigation into Georgia elections.

The Justice Department finally shared e... more

FBI Director Kash Patel has been demanding special perks from Bureau employees during his taxpayer-funded travels throughout the country, including helicopter tours and jet ski excursions.

US Attorney Andrew Boutros agrees to pay the attorney’s fees... more

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Acting Director of National Intelligence Bill Pulte has begun firing dozens of intelligence officials as he installs an election denier as his Chief of Staff.

The Justice Department accidentally sent three copies of Volume II of Jack Smith's final r... more

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A federal judge throws out Justice Department subpoenas of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey calling them “blatantly unlawful.”

The full DC Circuit Court of Appeals panel will hear arguments over Judge Boasberg’s contempt ... more

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Recent Guests

Kel McClanahan
National Security Counselors attorney, special guest for FOIA discussion
National Security Counselors
Episode: Deck Chairs on the Titanic (feat. Kel McClanahan)
Liz Oyer
Former DOJ pardon attorney
Georgetown University Law Center / Harvard Law graduate (clerk)
Episode: Ed Martin Charged (feat. Liz Oyer)
Virginia Burger
Former active duty Marine Corps officer and Senior Defense Policy Analyst at the Project on Government Oversight
Project on Government Oversight (POGO)
Episode: Unlawful Orders (feat. Virginia Burger of POGO.org)
Cathy Harris
Former member of the Merit Systems Protection Board and experienced litigator
Episode: The Hero We Need (feat. Cathy Harris)
Kathy Harris
Ousted member of the Merit Systems Protection Board
Episode: Presumption of Regularity
Adam Klassfeld
Journalist at All Rise News
All Rise News
Episode: House of Cards
Skye Perryman
CEO and President of Democracy Forward, involved in litigation challenging the Alien Enemies Act
Democracy Forward
Episode: Dubious Privilege (feat. Skye Perryman)
Steve Vladeck
Georgetown Law Professor and author of the One First Substack
Georgetown University
Episode: Blindingly Naive and Oblivious (feat. Steve Vladeck)
Dahlia Lithwick
Author of 'Lady Justice' and host of Slate's Amicus podcast
Slate
Episode: Episode 95 | Roberts Goes Maximalist (feat. Dahlia Lithwick)

Hosts

Allison Gill
Host of UnJustified; co-host and program creator; MSW Media Network
Andrew McCabe
Co-host; former FBI official; regular analytical voice on DOJ and national security matters

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 9.6k ratings
  • A New Injustice

    Olympian David Hearn was just indicted for malicious vandalism of the reflecting pool. Good grief! Please NEVER stop imitating Jeanine Pirrot.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Amy Ann Hines
    United States20 days ago
  • Never Miss This One

    Unjustified is one of the podcasts I never miss. I try to listen as soon as it’s available. Allison and Andy are smart, funny, and well informed.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mt Holly Girl
    United Statesa month ago
  • The question pending

    How is it that Trump’s new qualifying hoops are not, effectively, a poll tax? Has this not been determined to be unconstitutional?

    Is there any evidence that suggests that the proposed voting hoops do not require buying the right to vote?

    The ID itself has costs; the resolving birth names vs married names, and resolving signature equivalents each create costs of funds, time and effort to resolve.

    How is voting rights ignored ?

    Cap

    San Francisco, CA

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Geo Marron
    United States3 months ago
  • Best voices and giggles

    I enjoy the show! It’s is professional, informative and yet presented with such a joyful attitude no matter how bad the news they can always find a chuckle and grin. Thanks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    madocofmaconga
    United States4 months ago
  • Unjustified

    My favorite podcast of all MSW programs.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    1-tm
    United States4 months ago

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Zero Intelligence
Q: Why is the grand jury process considered robust, and what reforms are discussed to address observed malfeasance?
The hosts explain the grand jury system's checks and motions, acknowledging past issues but arguing that oversight and remedies exist; they discuss recent cases where judges monitored or intervened in grand jury conduct and the potential for further safeguards.
Zero Intelligence
Q: If Trump filed the lawsuit in his personal capacity, how might immunity apply or not apply to potential future charges?
Immunity likely does not shield personal actions from civil or criminal liability once the matter goes beyond official acts, and the court could refer matters to DOJ; the hosts emphasize that immunity has limits and depends on the context of the acts and whether they are official.
Transitive Immunity
Q: What is the statute of limitations for Comey seashells-related charges, and how does that affect potential trials?
The federal statute of limitations for the relevant offenses is typically five years, though some crimes may have different periods if specified by law; this generally keeps the window open for a trial within five years of the alleged actions.
Transitive Immunity
Q: If Trump can grant pardons, can states still pursue charges against people he pardoned, and how does immunity interact with this?
Pardons can protect against federal prosecution, but state prosecutions can still proceed; immunity concepts, especially around presidents, may limit some actions, yet state charges can still apply if not covered by federal immunity.
Polygraphs
Q: Jorge asks whether a president can pardon someone for future crimes or only for uncharged or past acts, and if a deathbed pardon is possible in US history.
They answer that a president can pardon uncharged acts from the past but cannot forgive future crimes; deathbed pardons do not exist in US history.

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Frequently Asked Questions About UnJustified

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A sharp, legally informed take on US federal investigations, the DOJ, and national security matters, driven by two seasoned hosts who blend meticulous analysis with accessible commentary. Episodes routinely dissect weaponization claims, grand jury procedures, FBI and DOJ actions, and high-profile cases, interleaving reporting from major outlets with practical explainers for listeners curious about how law, policy, and politics intersect. A standout trait is the hosts' ability to translate complex legal developments into clear, actionable insights while maintaining a distinctive, sometimes witty, on-air dynamic. The show often features guests who provide behind-the-scenes expertise, and sponsorships are a regular part of the format, enabling... more

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