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The Trialogue

Peter Slezkine
China
United States
Russia
Taiwan
U.S. Foreign Policy
Restraint
Climate Change
Isolationism
Ukraine
Eurasia
Middle East
Cold War
NATO
Us-China Relations
Military Alliances
European Defense
Sanctions
BRICS
Higher School Of Economics
Russian Arctic

Peter Slezkine, the Director of the USA-Russia-China Trialogue project at the Stimson Center, hosts a series of conversations with experts and ex-officials from the United States, Russia, China and beyond to discuss cold wars past and present, potential areas of conflict and cooperation, and alternative visions of global order, among other subjects. Since the middle of the 20th century, the shifti... more

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Federico Petroni, senior analyst at Limes, Italy's leading geopolitical journal, joins the Trialogue to discuss Europe’s anger over the U.S. attack on Iran, NATO’s fraught future, Italy’s Mediterranean strategy, and its regional rivalries with France... more

Zhao Hai, Director of the International Politics Program in the National Institute for Global Strategy at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, returns to the Trialogue to discuss the impact of the US-Israeli war with Iran, the state of US-China tr... more

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Mathew Burrows, program lead of the Stimson Center's Strategic Foresight Hub, returns to the podcast for a forward-looking conversation. We discuss global demographic decline, the energy transition, the promises and limits of AI, the future of the tr... more

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Curt Mills, executive director of The American Conservative magazine, joins the Trialogue to discuss the evolution of anti-interventionist thought on the American right. In this conversation we cover the origins of American empire, the extent of U.S.... more

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Recent Guests

Zhao Hai
Director of the International Politics Program and the National Institute for Global Strategy at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences
Chinese Academy of Social Sciences
Episode: Zhao Hai: What Would China Do?
Mat Burrows
Counselor in the Executive Office at the Stimson Center
Stimson Center
Episode: Mathew Burrows: Forecasting the Next World Order
Curt Mills
Executive Director, The American Conservative Magazine
The American Conservative Magazine
Episode: Curt Mills: Conservative Anti-Interventionism
Fyodor Lukyanov
Editor-in-chief of Russian Global Affairs, host of the weekly TV program International Review, chairman of the Presidium of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, and research professor at the Higher School of Economics.
Episode: Fyodor Lukyanov: Russia’s Place in the World
Zhou Bo
Retired senior colonel in the PLA and senior fellow at Tsinghua University
Center for International Security and Strategy at Tsinghua University
Episode: Zhou Bo: What China Wants
Mike Kuiken
Commissioner at the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission
Episode: Kuiken and Hodges: The China Commissioners
Josh Hodges
Commissioner at the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission
Episode: Kuiken and Hodges: The China Commissioners
Matthew Burrows
Former lead author of Global Trends at the National Intelligence Council and program lead of the Stimson Center's Strategic Foresight Hub
Stimson Center
Episode: Mathew Burrows: A Life in the CIA
John Mearsheimer
World-renowned international relations scholar
Episode: John Mearsheimer: A World Tour

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Peter Slezkine
Host of the podcast focusing on trilateral geopolitics among the U.S., Russia, and China; directs the U.S.-Russia-China Trialogue Project at the Stimson Center.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 31 ratings
  • Intelligence well focused

    I enjoyed your interview of Yarvin, as difficult and loquacious a guest as you can find. You managed incisive questions of a guest who is evasive, shrewd and dogmatic at the same time. As good an interview as I have heard.

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    United States9 months ago

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The host asks pointed questions that surface underlying assumptions.
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High-quality experts, but the pace can be dense for casual listeners.

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Mathew Burrows: Forecasting the Next World Order
Q: What role do you see for Europe and transatlantic relations as the US reduces its direct security footprint?
Europe will likely maintain cooperation and cohesion but move toward greater strategic autonomy, expanding defense coordination and reforms while balancing relations with the US, China, and regional partners; the NATO framework could evolve into a more coordinated but less US-centric architecture.
Mathew Burrows: Forecasting the Next World Order
Q: You are one of the world's greatest prognosticators, so we are going to ask you to use that power and to peer into the future. How should we begin when thinking about megatrends, energy, AI, and demographics?
We should start with demographics, recognizing that aging populations will drive higher social and health costs but also prompt immigration and policy adjustments; AI and automation will be a major productivity driver, but their benefits must be distributed fairly through education, policy, and possibly new forms of social protection; energy will pivot toward renewables and nuclear options, with regional dependencies shaping geopolitical balance.
Curt Mills: Conservative Anti-Interventionism
Q: So you are the executive director of the American Conservative magazine. Can you tell us a bit about the publication? Who founded the magazine?
The magazine was founded in Washington DC in 2002 by conservatives who were against the Iraq War, anchored by Patrick J. Buchanan as a central figure and later joined by other founders; it developed a track record as a leading anti-interventionist voice on the political right.
Kuiken and Hodges: The China Commissioners
Q: What recommendations does the Commission make to better face the challenges posed by China?
Recommendations include prioritizing biotechnological innovation, consolidating economic statecraft tools in the government, and maintaining international cooperation to address economic challenges.
Kuiken and Hodges: The China Commissioners
Q: What sort of problem does China pose to the United States?
China poses a complex challenge that affects America domestically and internationally through its technological advancements and military capabilities.

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What is The Trialogue about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A coverage of high-level geopolitics with a focus on US-Russia-China dynamics, global security, and shifts in international order. Conversations span nonproliferation, nuclear strategy, regional flashpoints (Ukraine, Taiwan), and the evolving architecture of multipolar governance, often featuring senior policymakers, academic experts, and thought leaders who critique interventions, debate alliance structures, and explore paths toward dialogue. Notable strengths include rigorous, issue-driven debates with a willingness to challenge conventional narratives and a willingness to entertain unconventional theorists and long-view strategic forecasting. This mix tends to appeal to listeners who want thoughtful, policy-oriented analysis and a window... more

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