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Make It Plain Podcast

Kehinde Andrews
Black Studies
Malcolm X
Racism
Black Lives Matter
Politics
Reparations
Kemi Badenoch
Birmingham City University
Black Employment Month
Colonialism
Israel/palestine Conflict
Representation In Politics
Pan-Africanism
Gaza
Neo-Colonialism
For Such A Time As This
Higher Education
Donald Trump
Intersectionality
Social Media

The Make it Plain podcast is hosted by Kehinde Andrews, chair of Harambee OBU and professor of Black Studies. Each week he discusses what's happening in the world and interviews people you need to hear from. Support Make it Plain: make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU www.blackunity.org.uk/ Written and hosted: Kehinde Andrews Artwork: Assata Andrews YouTube: Kadiri Andrew... more

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A public lynching, a media pile-on, and a university that should have stopped it but didn't. This episode goes straight at the Jason Arday story and asks the question everyone should be confronting now: how did a respected black professor become the ... more

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Kehinde starts off by delivering the news that he and two other colleagues are now off the books at Birmingham City University. Thanks to everyone who singed the petition and supported the campaign but university management decided to go ahead with t... more

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Welcome to this week's episode of Make it Plain. Kehinde opens up with an update about the Black Studies and shares that he has been served his papers. Pending one last appeal Black Studies is closed and 3 out of the 5 staff members, including Kehind... more

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Welcome to this week's episode of Make it Plain. Kehinde opens up with an update about the Black Studies situation at Birmingham City University. Unfortunately, the university has ignored almost 10,000 signatories to the petition and the public backl... more

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Alfousseynou Badji
Senegal Pan-Africanist and community activist interviewed on the trip across West Africa
Pan-Africanist networks, West Africa residency
Episode: The end of Black Studies at BCU + Despite the World Cup England is racist + Farage against.. a bin
Kimberlé Crenshaw
Professor, author, and co-founder of the African American Policy Forum
African American Policy Forum
Episode: Kimberlé Crenshaw on Backtalker; Intersectionality; CRT and in defence of Black Studies
Peniel Joseph
Professor of History and Public Affairs, University of Texas at Austin; Director of the Center for the Study of Race and Democracy
University of Texas at Austin
Episode: Happy Malcolm Day, Black Studies + Prof Peniel Joseph on X's legacy + the attack on civil rights
Conmany Wisseh
Liberian Pan-Africanist, former senator, anti-colonial and student movement veteran
University of Liberia (former senator); Pan-African activist
Episode: America is Europe on steroids; the attack on voting rights + Liberian Pan-Africanists speak
Madina Wesseh
Liberian Pan-Africanist, lawyer, acting president of United Methodist University
United Methodist University, Liberia; Pan-African activist
Episode: America is Europe on steroids; the attack on voting rights + Liberian Pan-Africanists speak
Bernard Coard
Controversial figure related to the Grenada Revolution and author of the foundational book on educational subnormality
Grenada Revolution / Academic author
Episode: Eid shouldn't be political + Bernard Coard on how Black children are made educationally subnormal
Assata Andrews
A-level student studying Film Studies, Psychology and History; daughter of the host
Episode: We need to talk about Lammy; plus Kehinde's daughter joins to talk Oscars, AI and pop culture
Moses McKenzie
Black British author
Author of Fast By The Thorns and Olive Grove in Ends
Episode: White Supremacy will end the world...but not over Iran + Moses McKenzie Interview
Wandia Njoya
Associate Professor of Language and Performing Arts, Kenyan academic and activist
Daystar University
Episode: Bafta's N-word spectacle, Reform lose and Neo-colonial education with Wandia Njoya

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Kehinde Andrews
Host of the show; Black Studies advocate; chair of Harambee OBU

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 75 ratings
  • Frank R

    Very enlightening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Maroonmindset
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Black Americans don’t love USA.

    We want every body Black to win!! Wherever they re from. Check in with a black American every show. From beginning.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    FPurbanAdvisors
    United States2 years ago
  • Always brilliant and incisive

    I cannot speak highly enough about this podcast. Prof Andrews is always articulate, funny and informative, and the guests are always interesting too.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Linton_M
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Current & informative

    Looking forward to future episodes

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jaxbusy
    United Kingdom3 years ago

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Brings in strong guest perspectives from academia and activism
Consistently impactful and engaging conversations with a clear advocacy lens
Energetic and articulate host with a passion for social justice
Timely discussions on education, race, and policy resonate with listeners
Thoughtful, rigorous analysis that challenges mainstream narratives

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#214
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#61
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Kimberlé Crenshaw on Backtalker; Intersectionality; CRT and in defence of Black Studies
Q: What social changes would help more people recognize and value intersectionality as a tool for addressing real-world disparities?
She argues for ongoing education, explicit attention to how power and structures shape experiences, and a conscious effort to include Black women's experiences in the broader movement; also stresses documenting and sharing concrete applications of intersectionality to inform policy and activism.
Kimberlé Crenshaw on Backtalker; Intersectionality; CRT and in defence of Black Studies
Q: And what is the best way to understand or teach what critical race theory is, beyond a textbook definition?
The guest suggests using practical demonstrations in audiences and vignettes to reveal how race, gender, and power interact in everyday scenarios, letting people see who benefits from unequal structures and who is marginalized.
There's was no such thing as 'American' slavery + Mailbag episode
Q: Why did you critique ADOS but not CARICOM in the reparations discussions, and how do these groups differ in their aims?
The host explains that ADOS and FBA were highlighted to address specific American-focused claims, but reiterates that reparations should be framed as a global, diaspora effort rather than siloed nationalist demands; the broader point is that reparations should acknowledge shared harms across slavery and colonialism, while avoiding nationalist traps that split the movement.
From Ghana to Gambia on a bus to explore Pan Africanism + Femicide hits the US news
Q: What were the major challenges faced during the trip, especially at borders?
Border crossings were lengthy and permeated by multiple checks and bribes, a reflection of systemic inefficiencies and neocolonial dynamics that complicated travel and logistics across several countries.
From Ghana to Gambia on a bus to explore Pan Africanism + Femicide hits the US news
Q: What was the impetus for the two-week bus journey across West Africa?
The purpose was to create a Pan-African link between diaspora communities and organizations on the continent, culminating in a convention focused on Malcolm X's legacy and building a wider network of collaboration.

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A think-in-the-pressing-edge show that centers Black Studies, higher-ed policy, and global Pan-African perspectives, often pairing urgent campus and political debates with thoughtful interviews. Episodes frequently tackle university leadership, race and media narratives, and community-led strategies for education and empowerment, while hosting prominent scholars and activists to dissect power, policy, and culture. Noteworthy elements include candid critiques of UK academia, a strong emphasis on community organizing through Harambee OBU, and high-profile conversations with leading thinkers on intersectionality, civil rights history, and Pan-Africanism. The show tends to attract listeners who value rigorous analysis, activism, and cross-conti... more

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7. Assata Andrews
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