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Lead & Follow

Sharna Fabiano
Followership
Tango
Long Beach Tango
Altar Society
Destructive Leadership
Leadership
Leadership Development
Responsible Global Followership
CEO Board Relationship
Technology Industry
Followership Subtypes (colluders, Conformers, Challengers)
Voluntariness
Culture
Long Beach Tango Community
Community Building
Long Beach
Altar Milonga
Dia De Los Muertos
Tango Ancestry
Altar

Lead & Follow offers a candid discussion of teamwork, collaboration, and professional development. Host Sharna Fabiano talks with scholars, educators, and artists to explore the relational dance between people who work together, and what actually makes for extraordinary outcomes.

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Full transcript and show notes: www.sharnafabiano.com/2026/07/29/how-to-lead-ai-before-it-leads-you-ai-literacy-elena-filatova/

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Full transcript and show notes: www.sharnafabiano.com/2026/07/29/managing-up-how-executive-assistants-shape-executive-decision-making/

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Full transcript and show notes: www.sharnafabiano.com/2026/07/29/the-future-of-leadership-why-great-teams-need-more-than-leaders-robert-kelley/

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Full transcript and show notes: www.sharnafabiano.com/2026/07/29/psychological-safety-isnt-only-your-bosss-job-how-teams-actually-build-it-kinsey-hansen/

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Recent Guests

Basil Read
Retired US Navy captain, consultant, professor of practice in Troy University's PhD in global leadership program
Troy University; former FDIC practitioner
Episode: Managing Up: How Executive Assistants Shape Executive Decision Making
Robert Kelley
Distinguished Service Professor of Management at the Tepper School of Business, Carnegie Mellon University
Carnegie Mellon University
Episode: The Future of Leadership: Why Great Teams Need More Than Leaders – Robert Kelley
Kinsey Hansen
Associate Professor at Angelo State University; program coordinator for the Master of Arts in Administrative Leadership; Dissertation Chair for ASU's Doctorate of Education in Transformative Leadership
Angelo State University
Episode: Psychological Safety Isn't Only Your Boss's Job: How Teams Actually Build It - Kinsey Hansen
Otto Henfling
Consultant and governance advisor with CEO and board experience; PhD researcher on trust and followership
Consultant and governance advisor in Australia
Episode: How CEOs and Boards Build Trust: The Relationship That Shapes Organizations - Otto Henfling
Maria Elena
Dancer from Thousand Oaks
Private individual
Episode: The Tango Waits For You - Chapter 4: Night of Spirits
Amy Lombardo
Coaching colleague, author of Brilliance, founder of Brilliance Coaching Academy
Brilliance Coaching Academy
Episode: Beyond Traditional Leadership: How Collaboration Expands Our Capacity to Lead - Sharna Fabiano & Amy Lombardo
Dan Istrate
Actor and director
Independent/Drama
Episode: How Argentine Tango Changes the Way We Connect - Sharna Fabiano & Dan Istrate
Maike Kugler
Professor of Human Resource Management, European University for Innovation and Perspective in Germany
European University for Innovation and Perspective
Episode: Why Employees Choose to Follow Leaders: Culture and Context at Work – Maike Kugler
Karen Perham-Lippman
Senior Manager of Global Inclusion and Belonging at Otis Worldwide Corporation
Otis Worldwide Corporation
Episode: Toxic Boss in Tech? The Research on What Actually Works - Karen Perham-Lippman

Host

Sharna Fabiano
Host of Lead & Follow; leads discussions on followership and leadership development.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 20 ratings
  • Wonderful te Followership and Strategy

    I am finding this whole podcast to be fascinating. Particularly struck by the most recent Oct episode with Dr David Leitner. His background in the military, in national strategy and corporate strategy, research, training and teaching brought a lot of gravitas to the subject. In the skillful questing and discussion the meaning and breadth of followership expanded for me. Highly highly recommend listening to this one and following the show altogether.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Nirdill
    United States3 years ago
  • Brilliant show!

    If you want to get a good grounding in the principles of leadership and followership. The show has you covered!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Just_Call_Me_Al
    Australia3 years ago
  • Amazing conversation

    So grateful for our conversation with Sharna! I have enjoyed hearing about how others have engaged with the topics of leadership and followership and think continued exposure to the context of these topics are valuable to anyone who wants to be both a better leader and a collaborator!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Michael Christoff
    United States3 years ago
  • Moving The Conversation Forward

    For decades (perhaps centuries) it’s just been about the “great individual” - the leader. Sharna Fabiano and her guests are expanding the conversation and exploring the dynamics and interplay between leaders AND followers.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SJA1528
    United States3 years ago

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Guests are described as insightful, with diverse expertise that broadens the leadership conversation.
Audience feedback highlights the show's ability to connect theory with real-world teamwork challenges.
Listeners praise the rigorous, practical exploration of followership and its role in healthy leadership.

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Psychological Safety Isn't Only Your Boss's Job: How Teams Actually Build It - Kinsey Hansen
Q: Can you tell us about how you think about integrating followership into ASU courses and programs?
Kinsey describes deliberate integration of followership into every course, using it as part of the intellectual environment, with concrete examples in change leadership and team dynamics; students explore their own followership styles, assess organizational culture, and practice translating followership into practical actions that support change.
Psychological Safety Isn't Only Your Boss's Job: How Teams Actually Build It - Kinsey Hansen
Q: So what got you interested in that topic from your particular context?
Kinsey explains that collaboration with Dr. Gina Heap and a shared frustration with leader-centric narratives led them to reframe followership as an active contributor to psychological safety; their work shifts the narrative from leaders alone creating safety to a co-created environment where followers have agency and tools to influence culture.
How CEOs and Boards Build Trust: The Relationship That Shapes Organizations - Otto Henfling
Q: What practices have proven effective for CEOs to maintain healthy relationships and counter hierarchical bias?
Leaders should roll up their sleeves, participate as equals in development activities, demonstrate vulnerability in appropriate ways, and ensure ongoing, candid dialogue with the board to build trust and mutual respect.
The Future of Leadership: Why Great Teams Need More Than Leaders – Robert Kelley
Q: What can individuals do daily to support democracy and avoid passive disengagement?
Support institutions, engage with networks, contact representatives, participate in civic education, and participate in community-based actions like neighboring and civics education.
The Future of Leadership: Why Great Teams Need More Than Leaders – Robert Kelley
Q: What changes do you see in the model of leadership and followership in organizations?
There is a trend toward more distributed leadership where teams self-organize, with leaders and followers fluidly switching roles to get things done.

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A candid, interdisciplinary take on teamwork, leadership, and the dynamics between leaders and followers. Across episodes, the show frequently discusses how followership contributes to effective leadership, with guests ranging from academics and educators to practitioners and artists, exploring practical methods to foster trust, psychological safety, and collaborative decision-making in organizations and communities. Notable is the recurring emphasis on interdependence, co-creation, and deconstructing the idea that leadership rests solely with individuals at the top. The format often blends theory with real-world stories, coaching insights, and community or workplace experiments that listeners can adapt to their own teams or initiatives.

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3. Kinsey Hansen
4. Otto Henfling
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6. Amy Lombardo
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