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LawNext is a weekly podcast hosted by Bob Ambrogi, who is internationally known for his writing and speaking on legal technology and innovation. Each week, Bob interviews the innovators and entrepreneurs who are driving what's next in the legal industry. From legal technology startups to new law firm business models to enhancing access to justice, Bob and his guests explore the future of law and l... more

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Five years ago, Noah Waisberg sold Kira Systems, the pioneering AI contract-analysis company he co-founded, to Litera. Even though the deal itself went well, the experience of going through the sale was hard, Waisberg now says. But that experience pr... more

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Legal tech company Clio has long said that its mission is to transform the legal experience for all. Until now, that "all" has largely focused on law firms and their clients, but recently Clio announced a major initiative to develop technology for t... more

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Call it Alex Su, redux. We do not usually have the same guest on LawNext twice in the same year, but there is good reason to have Alex back, as he has just been named president of Latitude Legal, the flexible legal staffing company.

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Chronologies have become one of legal tech's hottest categories, with a wave of AI startups promising to turn a messy evidentiary record into a structured timeline in minutes. Jeff Kerr and his company Casefleet were more than a decade ahead of the p... more

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Recent Guests

Noah Waisberg
Co-founder of Zuva and former Kira Systems executive
Zuva; former Kira Systems
Episode: 'The Hardest Thing I've Ever Done': Noah Waisberg on Why Selling a Business Hurts, and How Zuva Aims to Fix It
Bridget Mary McCormack
Former Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court; President and CEO of the American Arbitration Association
Clio (incoming General Manager, Judiciary)
Episode: An Offer She Could Not Turn Down — Bridget McCormack on Joining Clio to Transform Technology for Judges
Alex Su
President of Latitude Legal (formerly Chief Revenue Officer)
Latitude Legal
Episode: As Alex Su Is Named President of Latitude Legal, We Talk about Why AI Is Driving Demand for Flex Talent
Jeff Kerr
Founder and CEO of Casefleet
Casefleet
Episode: Casefleet Founder Jeff Kerr on Fact Management in the Age of AI
Pablo Arredondo
Senior Vice President Judiciary at Clio
Clio
Episode: Why Legal AI Pioneer Pablo Arredondo Is Joining Clio to Build Technology for the Courts
Greg Dickason
Chief Technology Officer of LexisNexis Legal & Professional
LexisNexis
Episode: LexisNexis CTO Greg Dickason On Building Legal AI In Real Time with Customers in Its New Innovation Lab
Jeff Steinberg
Newly named CEO of SurePoint Technologies
SurePoint Technologies
Episode: SurePoint's New CEO Jeff Steinberg on the Mandate for Change
Ryan Walker
Co-Founder and CEO of General Legal, AI-native law firm; former CTO of Casetext
General Legal; Casetext
Episode: From Product to Practice: Why Casetext's Former CTO Has Started An AI Native Law Firm
Renee Knake Jefferson
Professor of Law and Chair in Legal Ethics at the University of Houston Law Center
University of Houston Law Center
Episode: Law Democratized: Renee Knake Jefferson on Her Blueprint for Solving the Justice Crisis

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Bob Ambrogi
Host of LawNext

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 53 ratings
  • A great law firm doesn't require great sacrifice

    The October 2023 interview with Kimberly Bennett was enlightening, addressing the critical issue of work-life balance for lawyers. It's refreshing to hear a conversation about building a law firm that genuinely serves the individual's needs!

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    5
    Code: RO1932 Free ride
    United States3 years ago
  • RE: Episode with June Hsiao

    Enjoyed this discussion with June! Agree when you said that being a “gatekeeper” isn’t necessarily bad, as it’s one of the critical roles of being a law librarian; to be able to filter between what’s actually helpful and not..

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago
  • A must-listen for a new perspective on how to practice the law

    The legal profession is rapidly changing, and the host makes the changes easy to understand and easier to implement. He also makes topics that lawyers usually consider dry interesting. SO thank you for that.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dina Cataldo
    United States6 years ago
  • A Must-Listen for Lawyers and Law Firms

    This podcast is excellent for lawyers and law firms who are looking to build their practice with the integration of tech. If you’re looking to grow your firm, subscribe and learn from a great host and different industry leaders.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LK_Jensen
    United States6 years ago
  • Great show

    Must listen for anyone in the legal community/profession.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CJThomas6
    United States6 years ago

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An Offer She Could Not Turn Down — Bridget McCormack on Joining Clio to Transform Technology for Judges
Q: Why is this opportunity something you could not turn down?
The combination of Clio's vision to transform the judiciary, the chance to co-design tools with judges, and the prospect of helping public justice by addressing capacity and trust issues made it a compelling, mission-aligned move that goes beyond what I have done before.
Why Legal AI Pioneer Pablo Arredondo Is Joining Clio to Build Technology for the Courts
Q: How will Clio's existing data assets influence the work in the judiciary space?
Clio's data and docket information can be leveraged to test and iterate AI tools against real-world flows, while synthetic data can help prototype, but real data is crucial to validate performance across varied judicial contexts.
Why Legal AI Pioneer Pablo Arredondo Is Joining Clio to Build Technology for the Courts
Q: Why not just adapt a current practice management system for the judiciary?
Because the judiciary requires specialized functionality and safeguards, such as handling pro se filings, court-specific workflows, and stringent oversight, which necessitate a tailored, governance-aware solution rather than a generic PM system.
Why Legal AI Pioneer Pablo Arredondo Is Joining Clio to Build Technology for the Courts
Q: What exactly does the assignment at Clio entail, and is it about a generic judiciary tool or something more specialized?
The discussion emphasizes building a holistic, judiciary-grade platform that leverages AI to improve administration of justice, including tailoring features for different court types and focusing on real-world, policy-aware implementation.
LexisNexis CTO Greg Dickason On Building Legal AI In Real Time with Customers in Its New Innovation Lab
Q: Will LexisNexis build its own AI models, or rely on frontier models?
They continue to use frontier models with grounding and context while exploring selective use of fine-tuned or proprietary models for specific tasks, aiming to balance quality and cost while prioritizing customer trust.

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What is LawNext about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on legal tech, AI, and innovative business models reshaping how law firms, courts, and legal services operate. Guests range from CEOs and founders to professors and product leaders who discuss AI-enabled workflows, access to justice, regulatory considerations, and new ways to deliver legal services. Across episodes, themes include practical AI deployment in legal practice, governance and ethics, market dynamics in legal tech, and strategies for transforming traditional law firms with technology. Noteworthy aspects include frequent high-profile leaders in AI for law, emphasis on responsible innovation, and a strong focus on real-world impact rather than theoretical tech. Potential listeners—whether practitioners, technologi... more

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