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LawNext is a weekly podcast hosted by Bob Ambrogi, who is internationally known for his writing and speaking on legal technology and innovation. Each week, Bob interviews the innovators and entrepreneurs who are driving what's next in the legal industry. From legal technology startups to new law firm business models to enhancing access to justice, Bob and his guests explore the future of law and l... more

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As NetDocuments rolls out a completely redesigned user experience, a new Microsoft 365 integration, and real-time co-authoring, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi speaks with Chief Product Officer Dan Hauck in an episode recorded live at the company's Inspire ... more

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NetDocuments CEO Josh Baxter believes the document management system is becoming something else entirely: a law firm's organizational intelligence layer. As lawyers increasingly do their work inside AI tools such as Claude, Harvey, Legora and ChatGPT... more

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Dan Hauck
NetDocuments Chief Product Officer, former litigator and founder of ThreadKM
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Episode: NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck on the Company's Redesigned Platform, the Legal Context Graph, and Building an Agentic DMS
Josh Baxter
CEO of NetDocuments
NetDocuments
Episode: NetDocuments CEO Josh Baxter on Why the DMS is Becoming the Firm's 'Intelligence Layer'
Noah Waisberg
Co-founder of Zuva and former Kira Systems executive
Zuva; former Kira Systems
Episode: 'The Hardest Thing I've Ever Done': Noah Waisberg on Why Selling a Business Hurts, and How Zuva Aims to Fix It
Bridget Mary McCormack
Former Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court; President and CEO of the American Arbitration Association
Clio (incoming General Manager, Judiciary)
Episode: An Offer She Could Not Turn Down — Bridget McCormack on Joining Clio to Transform Technology for Judges
Alex Su
President of Latitude Legal (formerly Chief Revenue Officer)
Latitude Legal
Episode: As Alex Su Is Named President of Latitude Legal, We Talk about Why AI Is Driving Demand for Flex Talent
Jeff Kerr
Founder and CEO of Casefleet
Casefleet
Episode: Casefleet Founder Jeff Kerr on Fact Management in the Age of AI
Pablo Arredondo
Senior Vice President Judiciary at Clio
Clio
Episode: Why Legal AI Pioneer Pablo Arredondo Is Joining Clio to Build Technology for the Courts
Greg Dickason
Chief Technology Officer of LexisNexis Legal & Professional
LexisNexis
Episode: LexisNexis CTO Greg Dickason On Building Legal AI In Real Time with Customers in Its New Innovation Lab
Jeff Steinberg
Newly named CEO of SurePoint Technologies
SurePoint Technologies
Episode: SurePoint's New CEO Jeff Steinberg on the Mandate for Change

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Bob Ambrogi
Legal technology writer and speaker covering innovation in the legal industry

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 53 ratings
  • A great law firm doesn't require great sacrifice

    The October 2023 interview with Kimberly Bennett was enlightening, addressing the critical issue of work-life balance for lawyers. It's refreshing to hear a conversation about building a law firm that genuinely serves the individual's needs!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Code: RO1932 Free ride
    United States3 years ago
  • RE: Episode with June Hsiao

    Enjoyed this discussion with June! Agree when you said that being a “gatekeeper” isn’t necessarily bad, as it’s one of the critical roles of being a law librarian; to be able to filter between what’s actually helpful and not..

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mav Dallarte
    Philippines3 years ago
  • A must-listen for a new perspective on how to practice the law

    The legal profession is rapidly changing, and the host makes the changes easy to understand and easier to implement. He also makes topics that lawyers usually consider dry interesting. SO thank you for that.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dina Cataldo
    United States6 years ago
  • A Must-Listen for Lawyers and Law Firms

    This podcast is excellent for lawyers and law firms who are looking to build their practice with the integration of tech. If you’re looking to grow your firm, subscribe and learn from a great host and different industry leaders.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LK_Jensen
    United States6 years ago
  • Great show

    Must listen for anyone in the legal community/profession.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CJThomas6
    United States6 years ago

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Listeners value the host's interviewing skill, legal industry knowledge and ability to make complex developments accessible.
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The content helps legal professionals keep up with innovation and consider how technology can support their practices.
The conversations are described as informative, engaging and actionable, including on topics listeners might otherwise find dry.

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NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck on the Company's Redesigned Platform, the Legal Context Graph, and Building an Agentic DMS
Q: What is the future of an agentic DMS, and how will it change a lawyer's practical workflow?
Hauck expects agents to handle deeper workflow tasks through natural-language instructions, such as organizing a workspace, renaming documents and moving them into folders or suggesting better folder structures.
NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck on the Company's Redesigned Platform, the Legal Context Graph, and Building an Agentic DMS
Q: What is the legal context graph, and how do you construct it?
NetDocuments analyzes documents as they enter its system, extracting document types, parties, people, dates and activities, then maps those details across matters and the firm. Agents can use that context to find relevant work and produce more useful answers, while reducing token use.
NetDocuments CEO Josh Baxter on Why the DMS is Becoming the Firm's 'Intelligence Layer'
Q: What have you seen in terms of what makes a deployment successful at a law firm versus what doesn't?
Baxter says successful deployments require teams to build an ontology that informs document intelligence, alongside change management, end-user training and active engagement.
NetDocuments CEO Josh Baxter on Why the DMS is Becoming the Firm's 'Intelligence Layer'
Q: What is the answer? I mean, again, I know I've asked you before to say, I don't like to talk about my competitors. What's the argument for NetDocuments over any generic DMS that may be out there?
Baxter cites NetDocuments' customer partnership approach, a multi-tenant cloud platform built for current technology, and a history of delivering on its promises.
An Offer She Could Not Turn Down — Bridget McCormack on Joining Clio to Transform Technology for Judges
Q: Why is this opportunity something you could not turn down?
The combination of Clio's vision to transform the judiciary, the chance to co-design tools with judges, and the prospect of helping public justice by addressing capacity and trust issues made it a compelling, mission-aligned move that goes beyond what I have done before.

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What is LawNext about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Weekly interviews examine how technology and new business models are changing legal practice, legal services and access to justice. Bob Ambrogi, a legal technology writer and speaker, leads conversations with founders, executives, practicing lawyers, academics and public-sector leaders. Guests explain the thinking behind products and strategies, as well as the practical effects of artificial intelligence, document management, legal research, litigation tools, court technology and flexible legal staffing.

The focus extends beyond software to the people, institutions and business models shaping the profession. Discussions often connect product decisions with lawyer workflows, ethics, adoption, client needs and the administration of justice. ... more

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