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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whet... more

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New Jersey became the latest state to beat back a Trump administration challenge to its sanctuary jurisdiction laws.

After the Supreme Court's conservatives (less CJR) allowed Trump to build his ballroom, he's demanding to be abl... more

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The fight over Trump's attempt to seize control of state mail-in ballots is headed for the Supreme Court. After a hearing before Judge Indira Talwani, the government didn't wait for a ruling — and it didn't wait for the First Circui... more

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The J. M. Smucker Company notched a win in its trademark dilution case against Trader Joe's over the Uncrustable dupes. A judge in Ohio refused to dismiss the case or transfer it to California.

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Washington Post opinion writer Karen Attiah, who was fired for her remarks after the death of Charlie Kirk, has been reinstated to her job after winning in arbitration.

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Recent Guests

Meg Whitman
President and CEO of eBay (interviewed in 2007)
eBay
Episode: Ep 257 — That Time When EBay Lost Its Mind
Todd Blanche
President Trump's personal lawyer and acting Attorney General nominee under discussion in the Senate Hearing
U.S. Department of Justice / Trump administration
Episode: Ep 246 — Blanche and Buc-ee's
Kilmar Abrego Garcia
Subject of a high-profile vindictive prosecution motion
Episode: Ep 219 — DOJ In Disarray
Adam Classfeld
Founder of All Rise News
All Rise News
Episode: Ep 191 — Legal Journalism in the Age of Trump
Justin Baldoni
Actor and director, returning to discuss civil procedure
Episode: Ep 187 — War Crimes, No Bills, And Tariffs
Lindsay Halligan
Florida Insurance Lawyer
Episode: Ep 173 — Justice Barrett Isn't Mad, She's Just Disappointed That You Keep Saying SCOTUS Is Broken
Eric Segall
Professor at Georgia State University Law School, author of Originalism as Faith and Supreme Myths, and writes on constitutional law
Georgia State University Law School
Episode: Ep 172 — Law School In The Age Of Trump (Ft. Prof. Eric Segall)
Brian Finucane
International Law Expert and Senior Advisor at the International Crisis Group.
International Crisis Group
Episode: Ep 168 — License To Kill? (feat. Brian Finucane)
Anna Bower
Senior Editor at Lawfare
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Episode: Ep 142 — Who Is The Administrator of DOGE (feat. Anna Bower)

Hosts

Liz Dye
Host with legal journalism and courtroom developments; co-host known for sharp analysis and engaging delivery.
Andrew Torrez
Co-host providing legal analysis and commentary with a brisk, opinionated style.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 796 ratings
  • 8.12.26

    News wise this is an excellent pod. acoustics wise not so much meaning andrew if only he could keep his volume steady instead he is audible then he goes softly then audible then softly ugh please andrew softly on a podcast doesn’t cut it so work on keeping your voice at a steady audible level and yes the louder one not the softly spoken one.

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    4
    midwestBlue
    United Statesa month ago
  • Listen 10/10

    I truly admire well-rounded individuals with exceptional intelligence who can explore multiple arguments on the law without losing their own authentic voice. This podcast perfectly captures that balance. If you’re curious enough to read reviews, it’s definitely for you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dzvjgvfc
    United States2 months ago
  • My Favorite Legal Podcastb

    I have listened to every single episode of Law and Chaos and have been a paid subscriber for a while now, and I can tell you without hesitation this show is worth every minute and every penny.

    As a complete layperson, I came in expecting legal coverage to be dense and inaccessible. What I found were two brilliant legal journalists who have a rare gift for making complex constitutional law and federal procedure not just understandable but genuinely fun. Liz and Andrew cite the law precisely when... more

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    5
    clhessy
    United States3 months ago
  • Legal Reporting and Humor Par Excellence

    It is difficult to adequately praise Law and Chaos’s hosts enough for their informative, snarky, nerdy, and ethically sound approach to legal reporting. Liz Dye had won me over through her work on the YouTube Legal Eagle channel, and finding her partnership podcast with Andrew Torrez has been a double win that brightens my day. Their spot on explanation of the U.S. legal process combined with comical asides and encouragement for everyone who still believes in democracy is a privilege to hear twi... more

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    5
    CALaBreche
    United States5 months ago
  • Informative and entertaining

    The hosts do a good job of appraising intelligent listeners about a variety of legal issues confronting the nation.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    GenXed
    United States6 months ago

Listeners Say

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Shows sharp legal analysis with accessible explanations and witty humor.
Left‑leaning but fact‑driven; values evidence and legal reasoning over partisan vibes.
Listeners praise the hosts' chemistry and ability to simplify complex topics.
Consistently informative and entertaining, balancing depth with readability.

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#103
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#151
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Ep 250 — Trump Corruption-palooza (Ft. Zach Everson)
Q: Can you explain how the USD1 stablecoin is supposed to work and why its concentration on Binance matters?
USD1 is described as a stablecoin pegged to the dollar, with reserves supposedly backing one-for-one redemption, but its heavy concentration on Binance creates centralization risk and regulatory exposure, especially since Binance operates with limited U.S. access.
Ep 250 — Trump Corruption-palooza (Ft. Zach Everson)
Q: So if you're asking in the abstract whether crypto currency is more like stock or more like frozen concentrated orange juice, I guess we could argue about it, right?
The host and guest discuss the legal distinctions using the Howey test, explaining that treating crypto as a security would bring it under SEC regulation, while treating it as a commodity would place it under the CFTC with looser enforcement, which is why crypto advocates favor a commodity classification.
Ep 172 — Law School In The Age Of Trump (Ft. Prof. Eric Segall)
Q: I'm more interested in having more judges appointed by somebody besides Donald Trump. But okay, let me ask you... what do you teach the kids?
Segall emphasizes teaching students the substantive law, critical thinking, and how to articulate their ideas, acknowledging that many students will not practice constitutional law directly.
Ep 172 — Law School In The Age Of Trump (Ft. Prof. Eric Segall)
Q: How do you teach law on a bridge that is burning?
Professor Segall explains that it is essential to teach substantive law, critical thinking, and articulation of ideas, while acknowledging that current political anomalies complicate traditional teaching methods.
Ep 167 — I Am Sparta-Kimmel!
Q: What is Judge Kaplan's position on the treatment of unaccompanied minors by ICE?
Judge Kaplan is critical of ICE's treatment, ruling that they cannot detain children without meeting minimum health and safety standards and ensuring due process rights.

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Two legally minded hosts deliver brisk, irreverent breakdowns of high‑stakes U.S. legal news, court fights, and regulatory skirmishes. Episodes balance meticulous case-law analysis with accessible explanations and pop-culture riffs, often highlighting the implications for big institutions and ordinary people. A standout trait is the duo's chemistry and willingness to challenge narratives with sharp humor, making complex civil, criminal, and constitutional topics approachable for engaged, policy‑mlood audiences. The show's distinctive voice and willingness to critique power likely attract listeners who want trustworthy legal context with a political edge and witty banter.

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