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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whet... more

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Alina Habba is newly married and locked in a knife fight with fellow Trumplander Ric Grenell. She says he failed to deposit a $6 million check to the Kennedy Center. And — hey, what a coincidence! — a week later, the New York Times ... more

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The Supreme Court is back in session. In Monday's orders list, the justices agreed to hear two important cases.

In DOJ v. McNutt, they'll decide whether the government can ban home distilling under its taxation power.

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Maryland Congressman Andy Harris is confused about who gets to record him losing his mind in public.

Judge Tim Kelly issued a preliminary injunction, continuing the TRO which blocked the White House from banning reporters from CNN... more

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The rule of law is under attack and the DOJ's prestige and presumption of regularity have crumbled. How do we fix this moving forward?

Akiva Cohen joins us to discuss GLOW Law (Government Lawyers Oversight Watchdog). Their objective is to hold atto... more

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Recent Guests

Akiva Cohen
Attorney, law firm partner, and GLOW Law board member
Cusk Law
Episode: Ep 270 — Attorney Accountability (feat. Akiva Cohen)
Joe Dye
Polling expert, founder of the Joe Dye Group
Joe Dye Group
Episode: Ep 260 — The State of the Senate 2026 (feat. Joe Dye)
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Polling expert, founder of the Joe Dye Group
Joe Dye Group
Episode: Ep 260 — The State of the Senate 2026 (feat. Joe Dye)
Meg Whitman
President and CEO of eBay (interviewed in 2007)
eBay
Episode: Ep 257 — That Time When EBay Lost Its Mind
Zach Everson
Research Director of the Trump Accountability Project at Public Citizen
Public Citizen
Episode: Ep 250 — Trump Corruption-palooza (Ft. Zach Everson)
Todd Blanche
President Trump's personal lawyer and acting Attorney General nominee under discussion in the Senate Hearing
U.S. Department of Justice / Trump administration
Episode: Ep 246 — Blanche and Buc-ee's
Kilmar Abrego Garcia
Subject of a high-profile vindictive prosecution motion
Episode: Ep 219 — DOJ In Disarray
Justin Baldoni
Actor/Producer, Wayfarer Studios
Wayfarer Studios
Episode: Ep 218 — Bondi, Birthright, Baldoni, and Ballroom
Brian Finucane
Senior Advisor at the International Crisis Group, expert on international law and military operations
International Crisis Group
Episode: Ep 193 — The Fog of War … Crimes

Hosts

Liz Dye
Host with legal journalism and courtroom developments; co-host known for sharp analysis and engaging delivery.
Andrew Torrez
Co-host providing legal analysis and commentary with a brisk, opinionated style.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 800 ratings
  • 8.12.26

    News wise this is an excellent pod. acoustics wise not so much meaning andrew if only he could keep his volume steady instead he is audible then he goes softly then audible then softly ugh please andrew softly on a podcast doesn’t cut it so work on keeping your voice at a steady audible level and yes the louder one not the softly spoken one.

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    4
    midwestBlue
    United States2 months ago
  • Listen 10/10

    I truly admire well-rounded individuals with exceptional intelligence who can explore multiple arguments on the law without losing their own authentic voice. This podcast perfectly captures that balance. If you’re curious enough to read reviews, it’s definitely for you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dzvjgvfc
    United States4 months ago
  • My Favorite Legal Podcastb

    I have listened to every single episode of Law and Chaos and have been a paid subscriber for a while now, and I can tell you without hesitation this show is worth every minute and every penny.

    As a complete layperson, I came in expecting legal coverage to be dense and inaccessible. What I found were two brilliant legal journalists who have a rare gift for making complex constitutional law and federal procedure not just understandable but genuinely fun. Liz and Andrew cite the law precisely when... more

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    5
    clhessy
    United States5 months ago
  • Legal Reporting and Humor Par Excellence

    It is difficult to adequately praise Law and Chaos’s hosts enough for their informative, snarky, nerdy, and ethically sound approach to legal reporting. Liz Dye had won me over through her work on the YouTube Legal Eagle channel, and finding her partnership podcast with Andrew Torrez has been a double win that brightens my day. Their spot on explanation of the U.S. legal process combined with comical asides and encouragement for everyone who still believes in democracy is a privilege to hear twi... more

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    5
    CALaBreche
    United States6 months ago
  • Informative and entertaining

    The hosts do a good job of appraising intelligent listeners about a variety of legal issues confronting the nation.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    GenXed
    United States8 months ago

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Shows sharp legal analysis with accessible explanations and witty humor.
Left‑leaning but fact‑driven; values evidence and legal reasoning over partisan vibes.
Listeners praise the hosts' chemistry and ability to simplify complex topics.
Consistently informative and entertaining, balancing depth with readability.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Ep 270 — Attorney Accountability (feat. Akiva Cohen)
Q: If you were going to fix everything, what would you do?
Cohen says the country needs fundamental legal and constitutional changes, public pressure, better documentation, and serious legal consequences for misconduct. He argues that lasting change requires collective action rather than a single person arriving to fix the system.
Ep 270 — Attorney Accountability (feat. Akiva Cohen)
Q: Can you speak to what we lose when the representatives of the government, the lawyers representing the government are not trustworthy when they file?
Cohen says untrustworthy government lawyers can cause serious legal harm and undermine the courts' presumption that government representations are truthful. That loss of trust damages the administration of justice and the rule of law.
Ep 250 — Trump Corruption-palooza (Ft. Zach Everson)
Q: Can you explain how the USD1 stablecoin is supposed to work and why its concentration on Binance matters?
USD1 is described as a stablecoin pegged to the dollar, with reserves supposedly backing one-for-one redemption, but its heavy concentration on Binance creates centralization risk and regulatory exposure, especially since Binance operates with limited U.S. access.
Ep 250 — Trump Corruption-palooza (Ft. Zach Everson)
Q: So if you're asking in the abstract whether crypto currency is more like stock or more like frozen concentrated orange juice, I guess we could argue about it, right?
The host and guest discuss the legal distinctions using the Howey test, explaining that treating crypto as a security would bring it under SEC regulation, while treating it as a commodity would place it under the CFTC with looser enforcement, which is why crypto advocates favor a commodity classification.
Ep 172 — Law School In The Age Of Trump (Ft. Prof. Eric Segall)
Q: I'm more interested in having more judges appointed by somebody besides Donald Trump. But okay, let me ask you... what do you teach the kids?
Segall emphasizes teaching students the substantive law, critical thinking, and how to articulate their ideas, acknowledging that many students will not practice constitutional law directly.

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Two legally minded hosts deliver brisk, irreverent breakdowns of high‑stakes U.S. legal news, court fights, and regulatory skirmishes. Episodes balance meticulous case-law analysis with accessible explanations and pop-culture riffs, often highlighting the implications for big institutions and ordinary people. A standout trait is the duo's chemistry and willingness to challenge narratives with sharp humor, making complex civil, criminal, and constitutional topics approachable for engaged, policy‑mlood audiences. The show's distinctive voice and willingness to critique power likely attract listeners who want trustworthy legal context with a political edge and witty banter.

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