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It’s Not What You Think

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OCD
Mental Health
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
ADHD
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Pans-Pandas
Hormones
Anxiety Disorders
Therapy
Friendship
Parenting
Trichotillomania
Diagnosis
Support For Loved Ones With OCD
Obessive-Compulsive Disorder
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Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
EMDR
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OCD, it’s really not what you think. This is a podcast about the horrors and hilarities of living with OCD, hosted by author and mental health advocate Penny Moodie and CEO of Stand Up Events, Angie Greene.Both Penny and Angie have lived with OCD for as long as they can remember and they have had enough of the misconceptions about OCD that can cause so much damage. They want to share what it’s rea... more

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There is a real buzz surrounding a treatment method originating in Norway. Clinical Psychologist and Founder of Melbourne Mindcare, Nathan Dowling joins Penny and Angie to talk about this intensive but gentle method, which is now being piloted in Aus... more

Paediatrician Dr Leila Masson joins Penny and Angie to talk about PANS/PANDAS, a medical condition in which the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks brain cells and can lead to sudden, severe symptoms of OCD. 

Doctors often mistake PANS/PANDAS for... more

A few years ago, Jo’s OCD was so crippling that she needed to be hospitalised and completed two stints at The Melbourne Clinic. OCD had completely taken over her life in every way. 

Jo joins Penny and Angie for a beautiful conversation about what she... more

Tess very generously talks to Penny and Angie about:

• when her hair pulling symptoms began

• her religious upbringing and the intense feelings of shame and perfectionism

• the various treatments she’s tried in order to stop pulling out her eyelas... more

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Recent Guests

Nathan Dowling
Clinical psychologist based in Melbourne, founder of Melbourne Mindcare Practice
Melbourne Mindcare Practice
Episode: Nathan Dowling: The Bergen 4 Day Treatment (B4DT)
Dr. Leila Masson
Pediatrician specializing in environmental and nutritional health for kids
Independent pediatrician (Sydney)
Episode: Dr Leila Masson: What parents must know about PANS/PANDAS
Jo Gray
Lived experience with OCD; proponent of ERP and living proof therapy
Therapist/Practitioner in OCD treatment
Episode: Jo Gray: 'Living Proof' that you can get on top of your OCD
Tess Murphy
Individual living with trichotillomania, OCD-related BFRB advocate
Independent (guest)
Episode: Tess Murphy: B(F)RB, pulling my hair out
Gryff Connah
Recent VCA graduate and aspiring actor/director involved in Flickr
Australian production of Flickr
Episode: Gryff Connah: Taboo OCD and saying the quiet parts out loud
Emily Ferretti
Australian artist, mother of two, friend of the hosts
Artist
Episode: Emily Ferretti: Magical Thinking OCD
Dr Andrea Wallace
Therapist specializing in EMDR and OCD
Episode: Dr Andrea Wallace: All about EMDR
Chris Walker
Australian producer known for television shows like Hard Quiz and The Weekly with Charlie Pickering
Television producer, Australia
Episode: Chris Walker: When childhood trauma meets OCD
Adelaide Miller
National business reporter with the ABC; independent filmmaker
ABC; Independent filmmaker
Episode: Adelaide Miller: Solving the jigsaw of multiple diagnoses

Hosts

Penny Moodie
Host and mental health advocate focusing on OCD experiences and reducing stigma.
Angie Greene
Co-host who shares lived OCD experience and leads conversations with guests.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 72 ratings
  • Fantastic!

    Thank you for this podcast. So informative, so honest, so real.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Go piggy go
    Australia4 months ago
  • Always learning

    Girls, this is such a informative pod I have loved listening and learning from you both. You girls are changing the way we talk about OCD and making people feel less alone along the way. Keep going 🩷

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kate yelland
    Australiaa year ago
  • Brilliant podcast

    I can’t rate this podcast highly enough. Penny & Angie bring so much honesty & heart, with the perfect mix of insight and humour. These episodes are hugely informative with real practical tips for OCD sufferers and their families/friends. Thank you for being so vulnerable and offering sufferers hope, while also helping everyone else better understand OCD.❤️

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Gia Hogarth
    Australiaa year ago
  • Thank you

    This podcast would have changed my life when I was a teenager wondering why I had weird thoughts and couldn’t move past them. This is amazing work thank you 🙏🏼

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Fletch8512
    Australiaa year ago
  • So relatable!

    I’ve been waiting for this podcast! Penny and Angie get raw and vulnerable with us. I mean it’s gotta be hard sharing some of your themes to the world! I can relate to Penny’s journey - I too had a theme at the same age around HIV. Couldn’t touch toilet doors, worried about specks of blood! And OCD loves to follow you and latch on to anything you care about. It felt good listening to others who shared the same journey from childhood, how isolated you felt because there was no way you would ACTUA... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BecBorrington
    Australiaa year ago

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Guests consistently bring credibility through lived experience or professional expertise.
High-quality production and thoughtful topic variety help keep lessons actionable for families and patients.
Honest, heartfelt conversations that make OCD feel reachable and less stigmatized.
Hosts balance vulnerability with practical tips, creating hope for listeners.

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Tess Murphy: B(F)RB, pulling my hair out
Q: What therapies have you tried and how effective were they?
She describes trying talk therapy, CBT, hypnotherapy, and various therapists; while some therapies reduced symptoms temporarily, the pulling often returned, and she emphasizes that there is no definitive cure, only management and self-acceptance.
Tess Murphy: B(F)RB, pulling my hair out
Q: Would you be able to tell us a little more about trick and your experience with it?
Tess explains that trick-a-tilla mania manifests differently for everyone, often focusing on eyelashes or eyebrows, and highlights its classification as a body-focused repetitive behavior linked to OCD, rather than a straightforward OCD symptom.
Dr Andrea Wallace: All about EMDR
Q: Is EMDR only for trauma, or can it help with memories from OCDs childhood or non-traumatic distress?
EMDR isn't limited to trauma; it can target painful memories from various life events, including childhood experiences relevant to OCD, and can reduce distress even when memories are not PTSD-specific.
Dr Andrea Wallace: All about EMDR
Q: When would you actually use EMDR instead of ERP?
EMDR can be used to process unprocessed memories related to OCD and to build positive beliefs, making ERP more approachable by reducing the distress linked to intrusive thoughts and past experiences; it can be used for real event OCD and to reframe fears before exposure.
Monique Michelson: A neuroaffirming psychologist with ASD, ADHD and OCD
Q: How do you distinguish between autistic symptoms and OCD symptoms?
Monique advised focusing on the quality of the behavior and the individual's experience, noting that OCD obsessions often involve irrational fears, while autistic behaviors may be related to sensory regulation.

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