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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

The Overlap
Manchester United
Football
Premier League
European Cup
Liverpool
Sir Alex Ferguson
Munich Air Disaster
FA Cup
English Football
Nottingham Forest
Champions League
Barcelona
Manchester City
Football History
World Cup
Lionel Messi
Tottenham Hotspur
Matthias Sindelar
Brian Clough
Arsenal

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.

The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.

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To listen to the full four-part series instantly, subscribe to our Patreon where listeners can enjoy ad-free listening, our World Cup Wednesdays, bonus editions and live Q&A episodes.

Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson begin a four-part series revisitin... more

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by Tim Vickery to discuss the extraordinary story of Brazil at the World Cup.

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Recent Guests

Tim Vickery
Football journalist and author of Mundiales (South American view of the World Cup)
Freelance journalist / Mundiales author
Episode: Brazil at the World Cup with Tim Vickery: Pelé, Maracanazo and Ancelotti's New Era
Jonathan Northcroft
Journalist who joined to discuss Inside England
The Times
Episode: Patreon Bonus Sneak Peek | Inside England: Southgate’s Culture Reset, EPPP and the Tuchel Gamble
Michael Grant
Scottish football correspondent for The Times; author of Fergie Rises
The Times (UK)
Episode: Breaking the Old Firm: Fergie's Aberdeen Revolution
Jan Åge Fjørtoft
Former Norwegian international striker
Norway National Team
Episode: Jan Åge Fjørtoft, on Norway + England's Nadir
Clyde Best
Former West Ham United player, pioneer for Black players in English football
West Ham United
Episode: Clyde Best: Breaking Barriers in English Football
Matthew Brown
Professor of Bristol University, expert on sport and Colombia
University of Bristol
Episode: BONUS SNEAK PEEK: Colombia Through Football ft. Professor Matthew Brown
Bill Buford
Iconic writer and author of 'Among the Thugs'
Episode: BONUS: Turf Wars: Bill Buford Sneak Peek
Cass Pennant
Former member of the Inter City Firm, filmmaker, and author
Urban Edge Films
Episode: Turf Wars Part One: The Making of ‘Hooligan’
Dennis Tueart
Former English footballer, member of Sunderland's 1973 FA Cup winning team, and Manchester City player.
New York Cosmos
Episode: The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part One

Hosts

Rob Draper
Host and co-presenter with a background in football journalism and media analysis.
Jonathan Wilson
Co-host, football writer and historian with deep expertise in football tactics and culture.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 2k ratings
  • Iconic

    This is a great podcast for anyone who loves football and its history. I have started a drinking game where I drink whenever Rob Draper says ‘iconic’ and I am hammered every week.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Heavy Sid
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Really enjoyable podcast

    Always really enjoy this podcast. A huge range of interesting football topics covered and always well researched and excellently presented

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    H bear esquire
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • 3 stars

    Interesting podcast some great footballing subjects and stories. Worth a listen. Only downfall is that Wilson is unbearable at times putting his opinion across as fact!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Kev Oz
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Superb

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Milko the merciless
    2 months ago
  • A review that’s not quite as good as QPR of the 1970s

    Thank you gents - the time and effort you take to research these episodes must be off the charts! Have listened to over 90% of this podcast and it is brilliant! Incredibly interesting and funny. A joy to learn from you both!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TurloughB
    United Kingdom2 months ago

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#58
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Apple Podcasts
#22
United Kingdom/Sports/Soccer
Apple Podcasts
#36
Canada/Sports/Soccer
Apple Podcasts
#52
United Kingdom/Sports
Apple Podcasts
#37
Italy/Sports/Soccer
Apple Podcasts
#38
Australia/Sports/Soccer

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Brazil at the World Cup with Tim Vickery: Pelé, Maracanazo and Ancelotti's New Era
Q: Looking ahead to this World Cup, what does it mean that Brazil has turned to a foreign coach for the first time in a competitive game?
It signals a historical shift, acknowledging that modern football demands different tactical approaches; it raises questions about balancing Brazilian identity with international influences, while still aiming to harness the strengths of the traditional Brazilian style.
Breaking the Old Firm: Fergie's Aberdeen Revolution
Q: What was Ferguson's leadership style like in those early Aberdeen years?
The hosts describe a complex leadership style: intense, demanding, yet capable of warmth and humor; he built buy-in from players, challenged them publicly, and used psychological tactics to lift performance, while often clashing with players who resisted his methods.
First Live Q&A | Sneak Peek!
Q: Which would you prefer, international football or club football?
The hosts agree that both serve different purposes: international football offers emotional pull and purity in some contexts, while club football provides daily drama and tactical depth, making clashes between top teams extremely compelling.
Escape to Victory: The Cult Classic with Pele, Bobby Moore and Sylvester Stallone | Christmas Special
Q: How did you fall in love with the film and how you come to write a whole book on it?
I loved the film so much I wanted to write about it as a love letter.
The Takeover That Led to Chelsea's Club World Cup Glory
Q: What was the feeling among Chelsea staff during the chaotic period?
Nick details the confusion and frustration among players and staff as they navigated the unprecedented limitations placed on their operations.

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This show dives into football history through in-depth conversations that pair archival storytelling with critical analysis from seasoned journalists and historians. Episodes cover legendary club sagas, landmark international moments, and the social and cultural forces that shaped the game, often featuring authors, former players, and scholars who illuminate tactics, leadership, and off-pield dynamics. Notable strengths include meticulous research, a clear appreciation for nuanced narratives, and a knack for connecting on-field events to broader cultural contexts. The format tends to blend detailed episode-specific storytelling with broader historical arcs, making it engaging for listeners who enjoy richly reported histories and behind-the-... more

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Recent guests on this podcast include:

1. Tim Vickery
2. Jonathan Northcroft
3. Michael Grant
4. Jan Åge Fjørtoft
5. Clyde Best
6. Matthew Brown
7. Bill Buford
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