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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

The Overlap
Roma
Liverpool
European Cup
Liverpool Football Club
Euro 2004
Sir Alex Ferguson
Joe Fagan
Manchester United
Premier League
Jurgen Klopp
Bruce Grobbelaar
History
Football
Fa Cup
Mainz
Tony Evans
Borussia Dortmund
Bundesliga
Penalty Shootout
Hillsborough Disaster

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.

The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.

Join us at Footb... more

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Welcome back to It Was What It Was.

It's the final installment of our three-part series exploring the rise and fall of the American Soccer League. Jonathan and Rob dive into internal conflicts within the ASL, the 1929 Wall Street crash, and how its ... more

In today's It Was What It Was, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson continue to explore the fascinating story of soccer in the United States.

Highlighting the pivotal role of immigrant communities in the sport's development, the episode also examines key... more

In this episode of It Was What It Was, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson dive into the early history of soccer in the United States.

They look at efforts to establish professional leagues, the influence of immigrant communities, and the geographic and ... more

Welcome back to It Was What It Was.

Rob and Jonathan are joined by David Corner - the man whose life was changed forever by the 1985 League Cup Final between Sunderland and Norwich.

That match is remembered for a costly mistake that led to Sunderl... more

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Recent Guests

Judy Faraday
A player on the US Women's National Team in the 1999 Women's World Cup.
Episode: The Making of a Football Superpower - Part Two: The Arrival
Carli Lloyd
Two-time FIFA World Player of the Year, two-time World Cup winner, and two-time Olympic gold medalist.
Episode: The Making of a Football Superpower with Carli Lloyd - An Introduction
Gary Neville
Former Manchester United player and pundit
Manchester United
Episode: Gary Neville: The Triumph and Tragedy of the Busby Babes
Steve Perryman
Former Tottenham player and author of The Complete Bill Nicholson Story
Tottenham Hotspur
Episode: The Brilliance of Bill Nicholson - Part One With Steve Perryman
Daisy Christodoulou
Author of multiple books on education, recently published 'I Can't Stop Thinking About VAR'
Episode: Lines, Screens and Outrage! The Story, the Impact and the Cost of VAR
Andy Sinton
Former QPR player and midfielder, known for his significant role in the New Year's Day victory over Manchester United.
Queens Park Rangers
Episode: Sir Alex And His Worst Ever New Year's Day - with QPR's Andy Sinton
Rafa Benitez
Renowned football manager with multiple trophies in various leagues
Episode: Rafa Benitez: My Coaching Secrets - Part One
Sid Lowe
Spanish Football correspondent for The Guardian
The Guardian
Episode: El Clasico: Civil War, Conspiracies And Scandal With Sid Lowe
Jamie Carragher
Former Liverpool player and football pundit
Sky Sports
Episode: Carragher on Sacchi: The Genius Who Revolutionised Football

Hosts

Jonathan Wilson
Co-host of the podcast, discussing key football history episodes. Renowned for his deep knowledge of football history and storytelling ability.
Rob Draper
Co-host of the podcast, providing insights into football's past. Known for his journalistic background and engaging narratives.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 465 ratings
  • One of the best podcasts period

    Insightful discussion of topics from various periods of football history, many of which have themes which are still relevant today.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Simon F1961
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Great podcast!

    The episodes on the Munich tragedy especially the story about jack racing up back to Ashington to be with his parents pretty much had me in tears honestly as a football fan from ashington first this is a great podcast lads thank you I’m not a Man U fan but Munich was a dark day for English football never mind MUFC!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Neil McMullen90
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Incredible podcast

    Everything I’ve wanted out of a football podcast, just two extremely well informed historians sharing the gift of knowledge.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SeanHa88
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • The best stories are always true

    Simply the best football podcast there is. And each story is so well researched and so well told. And it’s timeless. Your listening schedule isn’t dictated by a football Calander either. Loved every one!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Watts450
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Wonderful Show

    I’ve listened to several episodes now. Just finished the Bill Nicholson 2 part episodes. So well done. Can’t overstate how much I enjoyed learning about him and hearing antidotes from Spurs record appearance holder, Steve Perrymen. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DCI Banks
    United States2 months ago

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Overall feedback indicates a strong, dedicated fanbase, with many citing it as essential listening for football lovers.
Comments reflect a genuine appreciation for the historical context provided, enhancing listeners' understanding of football's impact on society.
Listeners praise the podcast for its in-depth research and detailed storytelling, highlighting the hosts' expertise and engaging presentation.
Some listeners expressed a preference for purely historical topics over contemporary analysis, seeking content rich in heritage and nostalgia.

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#34
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#18
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#22
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#49
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#21
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#72
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The 1985 League Cup Final: The Match that Changed My Life
Q: Did you never sort of think, I've got to leave Sunderland? Or did you think, no, this is my home, this is where I've got to stay?
He considered leaving Sunderland but ultimately stayed because of his deep connection to the community and club.
The 1985 League Cup Final: The Match that Changed My Life
Q: What kind of mental health support did you get?
None at all, as mental health issues weren't discussed back then. People viewed it as a weakness, so there was no support offered to him.
The 1985 League Cup Final: The Match that Changed My Life
Q: So when do you think, oh, hold on a second, everyone seems to think it's my fault? Does it happen immediately after the game or does it take a few hours?
After the game, many of his teammates consoled him, confirming that it wasn't his fault, but he quickly realized he was being blamed by fans and the media.
The Making of a Football Superpower with Carli Lloyd - An Introduction
Q: Do you think that was typical of the US at the time?
Lloyd reflects on how her experience of pickup games was typical for her era and contrasts it with today's structured sports environment.
The Making of a Football Superpower with Carli Lloyd - An Introduction
Q: So, Carli, if we can start with your first experience of soccer?
Lloyd shares that she grew up in a small town where her passion for soccer began with playing outside, despite limited access to formal training and equipment.

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Recent episodes explore significant moments in football history, providing engaging narratives that highlight key events, personalities, and socio-political contexts that have shaped the sport. Topics range from the humanizing accounts of players and teams to impactful events such as the Christmas Truce of World War I and groundbreaking matches like Wolves vs. Honvéd in 1954. The hosts emphasize thorough research and storytelling, appealing to both casual fans and history enthusiasts looking for deeper insights into football's past. Unique storytelling approaches and a focus on lesser-known anecdotes add to its charm, making it a distinctive resource for football history aficionados.

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Recent guests on this podcast include:

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8. Sid Lowe

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