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Inside Outside Innovation explores the ins and outs of innovation with raw stories, real insights, and tactical advice from the best and brightest in startups & corporate innovation. Each week we bring you the latest thinking on talent, technology, and the future of innovation. Join our community of movers, shakers, makers, founders, builders, and creators to help speed up your knowledge, skills, ... more

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On this week's episode of Inside Outside Innovation, Robyn and I talk about the rise of the high-impact individual contributor, more startups and fewer jobs, and how AI is going to destroy our lives or not. Let's get started. 

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On this week's episode of Inside Outside Innovation, we sit down with Johann Roos, author of the new book, Human Magic. Johan and I talk about the risks and opportunities that AI brings to the world of creativity, critical thinking, collaboration, an... more

On this week's episode of Inside Outside Innovation, we talk about synthetic user research, the future of AI fog, and why most companies aren't anywhere near ready for AI. Let's get started

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Eric Ries
Author of Incorruptible; founder of the Lean Startup Movement
Episode: Building Companies That Last Without Selling Out with Brian Ardinger and Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible
Robyn Bolton
Founder of Mile Zero and guest on the episode
Mile Zero
Episode: Building Momentum, Design's Value, and the Physical Store with Brian Ardinger and Robyn Bolton
Radhika Dutt
Author of Escaping the Performance Trap, expert in product management
Episode: Lead, Align, and Build what matters with Radhika Dutt, Author of Escaping the Performance Trap
Wayne Li
Author of "Design Empathy and Contextual Awareness" and Professor at Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech
Episode: Product Design Empathy and Context with Wayne Li, GA Tech Professor and Author
Jeremy Kourdi
Co-author of 50 Ideas That Changed the World of Work
Independent Author
Episode: 50 Ideas that Changed the World of Work with Jeremy Kourdi and Jonathan Besser
Jonathan Besser
Co-author of 50 Ideas That Changed the World of Work
Independent Author
Episode: 50 Ideas that Changed the World of Work with Jeremy Kourdi and Jonathan Besser
Duncan Wardle
Former head of innovation and creativity at Disney and author of The Imagination Emporium
Disney
Episode: Duncan Wardle, Disney's Head of Innovation and Creativity & Author of The Imagination Emporium
Dave Brown
Founder and managing partner at Brown Immigration
Brown Immigration
Episode: Immigration's Importance for the Innovation Economy with Dave Brown, founder of Brown Immigration
John Winsor
Co-author of the book 'Open Talent' and CEO of Open Assembly
Open Assembly
Episode: Shifting landscape of global talent with John Winsor, Open Assembly CEO

Hosts

Brian Ardinger
Host of Inside Outside Innovation; Inside Outside Innovation
Robyn Bolton
Co-host, Miles Zero; guest associated with Miles Zero

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 25 ratings
  • Commitment to Innovation

    I love Brian’s commitment and passion towards innovation!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dpiro42
    United States4 years ago
  • Inspiring!

    Each episode's filled with real insights and actionable advice on how to grow and innovate in our ever-changing world. Definitely a must-listen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    howardtnyc
    United States5 years ago
  • Great podcast, amazing host

    I’ve just recently discovered this podcast and I’m loving it so far! :) Brian is an outstanding interviewer. Highly recommend anyone interested in growing their business.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    EddieHar
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • Wonderful podcast!

    Great podcast! I really like listening to the IO Podcast. It’s great to hear the entrepreneurs, their stories, and how they built their business.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lillian O.
    United States6 years ago
  • Keep it up

    Enjoying the show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Billlllllllllyshsheu
    United States9 years ago

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Thoughtful perspectives on AI adoption and leadership far beyond hype.
Consistently valuable for executives and product leaders looking to stay ahead.
Strong host-guest dynamic with practical takeaways for teams.
Clear, actionable insights on innovation and AI culture.
Quality guests and crisp, useful frameworks for building in volatile times.

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Building Companies That Last Without Selling Out with Brian Ardinger and Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible
Q: Are there actions a company can take now, even if already mature, to start moving toward incorruptible practices?
Ries stresses listening and acting now, aligning legal charter with stated mission, and ensuring that governance and culture evolve to protect the enterprise from creeping incentives, even for established firms.
Building Companies That Last Without Selling Out with Brian Ardinger and Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible
Q: What role do new technologies like AI play in this model, and how should companies govern externalities to prevent negative societal impacts?
The guests discuss the need for mature governance around transformative tech, ensuring that profit motives do not override societal impacts, and that governance structures enable responsible innovation while preserving company purpose.
Building Companies That Last Without Selling Out with Brian Ardinger and Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible
Q: What are practical steps founders can take today to avoid drifting toward corruption or mission drift and build a durable company?
Ries recommends establishing a clear corporate purpose, embedding it into culture and governance, and adopting structural safeguards like a Public Benefit Corporation charter to protect the mission from external pressures, as well as maintaining long-term commitments to customers and employees.
Building Companies That Last Without Selling Out with Brian Ardinger and Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible
Q: What is the difference between value extraction and value creation, and where do many companies get this wrong?
The discussion highlights how private equity and other practices can erode a company's ethos and trust by prioritizing immediate financial gains over long-term value creation, with examples illustrating how misaligned incentives undermine the core business. Ries emphasizes restoring a focus on trusted, durable value rather than short-term extraction.
Building Companies That Last Without Selling Out with Brian Ardinger and Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible
Q: You open the book by saying you taught people to build companies worth protecting, but not how to protect them. What did you miss about that first time around and how did this book come about based on what you've learned?
Ries explains that while management science advanced, many mission-driven firms still face a force that can turn value creation into value destruction. The book proposes concrete mechanisms—ethos, governance, and protective exoskeletons—that safeguard long-term value and mission against investor and market pressures.

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What is Inside Outside Innovation about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on practical innovation strategy for both startups and corporate teams, with frequent dives into how AI, new tools, and evolving work cultures reshape decision making, leadership, and product development. Episodes often pair bite-sized analyses of articles with real-world anecdotes from guests and hosts, uncovering how people collaborate, learn, and execute in fast-moving environments. A notable pattern is the emphasis on human factors—trust, organizational culture, and speed- versus quality-focused tradeoffs—as essential to turning technology into lasting value. The recurring guest dynamic with a co-host from outside the core organization adds perspectives from outside-innovation ecosystems, making the conversations feel ... more

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