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Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

Jim Bennett
The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints
Mental Health
Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints
Suicide
The Book Of Mormon
Kirtland Temple
Michael Maddox
Faith Crisis
Depression
Elder Holland
LGBTQ Rights
Joseph Smith
Bob Bennett
Bullying
Stigma
Elder Poelman's Talk
Ex-Mormon Community
CES Letter
Music
Near-Death Experience

The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.

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Ian and Jim reunite for a wide-ranging, candid conversation sparked by a recent Church policy change allowing women to serve as ward Sunday School presidents.

What begins as a discussion of a seemingly small shift quickly expands i... more

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This is audio from a livestream discussion that took place on March 10, 2026. You can watch the original video here. 

Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince for a candid discussion on one of the most ... more

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Ian and Jim welcome returning guest Michelle Brady Stone, along with historian Cheryl Bruno, co-founders of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy. Together, they explore the complex and often controversial history of polygamy in the early ... more

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Ian and Jim welcome a longtime friend and Ian's former missionary companion, Byron Casper—the son of legendary golfer Billy Casper. 

Byron shares what it was like growing up in the shadow of one of golf’s greatest champions, rebell... more

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Recent Guests

Jean Bingham
Relief Society General President
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Episode: Come Away to the Sunday School
Michelle Brady Stone
Co‑founder of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy
Journal of Mormon Polygamy
Episode: Journal of Mormon Polygamy: A Conversation with Michelle Brady Stone and Cheryl Bruno
Cheryl Bruno
Co‑founder of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy
Journal of Mormon Polygamy
Episode: Journal of Mormon Polygamy: A Conversation with Michelle Brady Stone and Cheryl Bruno
Byron Casper
Guest, professional golfer and son of Billy Casper
Golf/Private sector
Episode: A Conversation with Byron Casper
Chris Robison
Listener invited onto Inside Out; shares deeply personal experiences
Individual
Episode: A Conversation with Chris Robison
Rebecca Bibliotheca
Episode: Historic Livestream Tonight with Rebecca Bibliotheca!
Richard Bushman
A leading scholar, Harvard-trained historian, and award-winning author.
Columbia University
Episode: Richard Bushman Returns!
Karen Hyatt
A passionate advocate for truth in the history of the LDS Church
Episode: A Conversation with Karen Hyatt
Pat Boisselle
Friend of the hosts and former member of the Mormon Church
Episode: A Conversation with Pat Boisselle

Hosts

Jim Bennett
Host of Inside Out; co-host known for critical, thoughtful engagement with church history and leadership.
Ian Wilks
Co-host on the outside of the church; focuses on bridging conversations and sharing personal experiences.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 196 ratings
  • Eye Roller

    I thought John Dehlin was the biggest LDS Church whiner until I started listening to this podcast. Bennett is the inside guy? Are you sure?

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    UtahCK
    United States2 months ago
  • Disappointed

    I’ve been listening consistently but the last episode about Elder Holland was stunningly bad and disappointing. To assert (without fact) that he basically gave his famous Book of Mormon talk, as a way to convince himself of the Book of Mormon’s truthfulness as weird and disappointing. To assert he gave talks that he didn’t believe in his own writing and spoke words. Why say things that are so wildly inflammatory and unsubstantiated?

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    VRM Trey
    United States3 months ago
  • Taking a Break

    I was thrilled when this podcast first started and eagerly looked forward to each new weekly episode. Finally—an honest and respectful space for real conversations about concerns in the church! I loved Ian’s story and have cheered for the guests who are trying to make things better, while also shedding tears for those who’ve been hurt by the organization. I’ve related to almost every guest you’ve had on.

    But Jim, I just can’t with the politics anymore. And before you judge me (because I know yo... more

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    Ckreed
    United States5 months ago
  • Refreshing perspective

    “Change in an Unchanging Church” has a lot of important points and information that struck several chords for me.

    I also recently finished watching all 9 episodes of “An Inconvenient Faith” docuseries.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing all your research and knowledge. Thank you for the years of work and sacrifice to bring it to the rest of us.

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    5
    Smarty__Marty
    United States5 months ago
  • Refreshing perspective

    Just finished watching all 9 episodes of “An Inconvenient Faith” docuseries.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing all your research and knowledge. Thank you for the years of work and sacrifice to bring it to the rest of us.

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    5
    Thoroughly Modern Marty
    United States6 months ago

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Listeners value thoughtful discussions on church issues and leadership.
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A Conversation with Byron Casper
Q: What lessons from your mission and upbringing do you carry into your current life and career?
Byron emphasizes authenticity, presence, and following one's own path; he discusses blending faith with personal beliefs, the value of being present, and leveraging discipline to build a legacy across golf, teaching, and entrepreneurship.
Ian Returns to Newbykipps
Q: Has your perspective on that story changed since you have left the church?
Yes, I've learned that that experience is not exclusive to the Mormon Church.
Richard Bushman Returns!
Q: Is there anything you'd like to share with the world about the Prophet Joseph Smith that you haven't yet shared?
There are layers and layers. It'll take many generations to get through to his true inner character.
A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince
Q: Was Joseph Smith a believer?
His journey reflects a complex narrative of faith intertwined with societal dynamics and personal experiences, suggesting he saw himself as a hero of his own story.
A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince
Q: What does it mean to be a Christian or a Mormon in today's world?
It provokes reflections on individual heritage, cultural identity and the evolving nature of religious affiliation.

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What is Inside Out about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show fosters constructive dialogue between members who stay and those who leave, featuring two hosts with distinct perspectives on a single religious institution. Episodes frequently explore church history, leadership decisions, policy shifts, and issues around inclusion, transparency, and personal faith journeys. Guests range from historians and authors to advocates and former insiders, contributing nuanced takes on how institutional beliefs intersect with modern society, culture, and individual wellbeing. The format tends to blend personal storytelling with rigorous discussion, aiming to model respectful disagreement and bridge-building across divergent views. A standout quality is the deliberate effort to surface both insider and ou... more

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7. Richard Bushman
8. Karen Hyatt

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