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Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

Jim Bennett
The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints
Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints
Mental Health
Joseph Smith
Mormonism
Polygamy
Mormon Church
Faith Crisis
Brigham Young
Suicide
Book Of Mormon
Spirituality
Latter-Day Saints
Donald Trump
General Conference
Youth Engagement
LGBTQ Issues
Infallibility Meter
Scotland
President Oaks

The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.

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Ian sits down with Jeff Strong, author of the groundbreaking book Torn: Why People We Love Are Leaving the Church and What Can We Learn from Them?

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What does it really mean to claim to be "the only true and living church on the face of the earth"? In this episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim sit down with returning guest Greg Prince to wrestle with one of the boldest claims in La... more

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Ian, Jim, and historian Greg Prince explore the controversial history of the Nauvoo Expositor and its lasting implications for honesty, institutional transparency, and the modern LDS Church. 

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Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a deep dive into one of the most controversial topics in Latter-day Saint history: the multiple accounts of Joseph Smith’s First Vision.

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Recent Guests

Jeff Strong
Author of Torn, Why People We Love Leave the Church and What We Can Learn From Them
Author/Researcher
Episode: A Conversation with Jeff Strong
Greg Prince
Historian and author, guest on the episode
Author/Historian
Episode: The Nauvoo Expositor
Jean Bingham
Relief Society General President
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Episode: Come Away to the Sunday School
Cheryl Bruno
Co‑founder of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy
Journal of Mormon Polygamy
Episode: Journal of Mormon Polygamy: A Conversation with Michelle Brady Stone and Cheryl Bruno
Byron Casper
Guest, professional golfer and son of Billy Casper
Golf/Private sector
Episode: A Conversation with Byron Casper
Chris Robison
Listener invited onto Inside Out; shares deeply personal experiences
Individual
Episode: A Conversation with Chris Robison
Rebecca Bibliotheca
Episode: Historic Livestream Tonight with Rebecca Bibliotheca!
Richard Bushman
A leading scholar, Harvard-trained historian, and award-winning author.
Columbia University
Episode: Richard Bushman Returns!
Ganesh Cherian
Author of 'Architect of Mormonism'
Episode: A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince

Hosts

Jim Bennett
Host of Inside Out; co-host known for critical, thoughtful engagement with church history and leadership.
Ian Wilks
Co-host on the outside of the church; focuses on bridging conversations and sharing personal experiences.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 204 ratings
  • Eye Roller

    I thought John Dehlin was the biggest LDS Church whiner until I started listening to this podcast. Bennett is the inside guy? Are you sure?

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    UtahCK
    United States4 months ago
  • Disappointed

    I’ve been listening consistently but the last episode about Elder Holland was stunningly bad and disappointing. To assert (without fact) that he basically gave his famous Book of Mormon talk, as a way to convince himself of the Book of Mormon’s truthfulness as weird and disappointing. To assert he gave talks that he didn’t believe in his own writing and spoke words. Why say things that are so wildly inflammatory and unsubstantiated?

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    VRM Trey
    United States5 months ago
  • Taking a Break

    I was thrilled when this podcast first started and eagerly looked forward to each new weekly episode. Finally—an honest and respectful space for real conversations about concerns in the church! I loved Ian’s story and have cheered for the guests who are trying to make things better, while also shedding tears for those who’ve been hurt by the organization. I’ve related to almost every guest you’ve had on.

    But Jim, I just can’t with the politics anymore. And before you judge me (because I know yo... more

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    3
    Ckreed
    United States7 months ago
  • Refreshing perspective

    “Change in an Unchanging Church” has a lot of important points and information that struck several chords for me.

    I also recently finished watching all 9 episodes of “An Inconvenient Faith” docuseries.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing all your research and knowledge. Thank you for the years of work and sacrifice to bring it to the rest of us.

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    5
    Smarty__Marty
    United States7 months ago
  • Refreshing perspective

    Just finished watching all 9 episodes of “An Inconvenient Faith” docuseries.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing all your research and knowledge. Thank you for the years of work and sacrifice to bring it to the rest of us.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Thoroughly Modern Marty
    United States8 months ago

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Guests and topics are diverse, with a focus on inclusivity and transparency.
Balanced dialogue and openness appreciated by listeners.
Listeners value thoughtful discussions on church issues and leadership.
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Q: Do you agree with the assessment that the church resists change due to fear or theological constraint, and how would you respond to the accusation that grassroots suggestions are not welcome?
The guests suggest that change often happens only when ideas gain traction at the grassroots; criticism framed as faithlessness is counterproductive, and there is a need for a transparent, living process where good ideas—whether from members or scholars—can be examined and refined rather than suppressed.
A Conversation with Byron Casper
Q: What lessons from your mission and upbringing do you carry into your current life and career?
Byron emphasizes authenticity, presence, and following one's own path; he discusses blending faith with personal beliefs, the value of being present, and leveraging discipline to build a legacy across golf, teaching, and entrepreneurship.
Ian Returns to Newbykipps
Q: Has your perspective on that story changed since you have left the church?
Yes, I've learned that that experience is not exclusive to the Mormon Church.
Richard Bushman Returns!
Q: Is there anything you'd like to share with the world about the Prophet Joseph Smith that you haven't yet shared?
There are layers and layers. It'll take many generations to get through to his true inner character.
A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince
Q: Was Joseph Smith a believer?
His journey reflects a complex narrative of faith intertwined with societal dynamics and personal experiences, suggesting he saw himself as a hero of his own story.

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This show fosters constructive dialogue between members who stay and those who leave, featuring two hosts with distinct perspectives on a single religious institution. Episodes frequently explore church history, leadership decisions, policy shifts, and issues around inclusion, transparency, and personal faith journeys. Guests range from historians and authors to advocates and former insiders, contributing nuanced takes on how institutional beliefs intersect with modern society, culture, and individual wellbeing. The format tends to blend personal storytelling with rigorous discussion, aiming to model respectful disagreement and bridge-building across divergent views. A standout quality is the deliberate effort to surface both insider and ou... more

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