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Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

Jim Bennett
The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints
Mental Health
Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints
Suicide
The Book Of Mormon
Kirtland Temple
Michael Maddox
Faith Crisis
Depression
Elder Holland
LGBTQ Rights
Joseph Smith
Bob Bennett
Bullying
Stigma
Elder Poelman's Talk
CES Letter
Ex-Mormon Community
Music
Near-Death Experience

The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.

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Ian Wilks
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Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 192 ratings
  • Eye Roller

    I thought John Dehlin was the biggest LDS Church whiner until I started listening to this podcast. Bennett is the inside guy? Are you sure?

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    UtahCK
    United States23 days ago
  • Disappointed

    I’ve been listening consistently but the last episode about Elder Holland was stunningly bad and disappointing. To assert (without fact) that he basically gave his famous Book of Mormon talk, as a way to convince himself of the Book of Mormon’s truthfulness as weird and disappointing. To assert he gave talks that he didn’t believe in his own writing and spoke words. Why say things that are so wildly inflammatory and unsubstantiated?

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    VRM Trey
    United States2 months ago
  • Taking a Break

    I was thrilled when this podcast first started and eagerly looked forward to each new weekly episode. Finally—an honest and respectful space for real conversations about concerns in the church! I loved Ian’s story and have cheered for the guests who are trying to make things better, while also shedding tears for those who’ve been hurt by the organization. I’ve related to almost every guest you’ve had on.

    But Jim, I just can’t with the politics anymore. And before you judge me (because I know yo... more

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    Ckreed
    United States4 months ago
  • Refreshing perspective

    “Change in an Unchanging Church” has a lot of important points and information that struck several chords for me.

    I also recently finished watching all 9 episodes of “An Inconvenient Faith” docuseries.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing all your research and knowledge. Thank you for the years of work and sacrifice to bring it to the rest of us.

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    Smarty__Marty
    United States4 months ago
  • Refreshing perspective

    Just finished watching all 9 episodes of “An Inconvenient Faith” docuseries.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing all your research and knowledge. Thank you for the years of work and sacrifice to bring it to the rest of us.

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    Thoroughly Modern Marty
    United States5 months ago

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Listeners appreciate the thoughtful insights and personal stories shared by various guests, enhancing the relatability of the content.
Overall, the open dialogue encourages hope and understanding, making it a valuable resource for those grappling with faith and identity challenges.
While many enjoy the candid discussions, some have expressed concerns about the political biases of the hosts, indicating a desire for more varied viewpoints.
The podcast provides a balanced and respectful space for discussions, bridging the gap between members and former members of the church.

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There are layers and layers. It'll take many generations to get through to his true inner character.
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Q: Was Joseph Smith a believer?
His journey reflects a complex narrative of faith intertwined with societal dynamics and personal experiences, suggesting he saw himself as a hero of his own story.
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Q: What does it mean to be a Christian or a Mormon in today's world?
It provokes reflections on individual heritage, cultural identity and the evolving nature of religious affiliation.
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Q: How do we preserve the uniqueness of the church while transitioning to a more mainstream identity?
We must engage in constructive dialogue about inclusivity and identity that honors both tradition and modern realities.
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Q: What triggered your doubts and questions about the church?
The major jumping off point was reading David Whitmer's pamphlet, which contradicted what I had been taught about Mormonism, especially regarding the nature of God and changes in revelations.

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A unique and thoughtful exploration of faith dynamics occurs through engaging discussions focused on the experiences of individuals navigating their beliefs, particularly within the context of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Conversations often feature guests who provide personal narratives, historical insights, and critiques of church policies, thereby fostering a platform for respectful dialogue between members and those who have distanced themselves from the church. Noteworthy is the show's emphasis on understanding diverse perspectives, addressing contemporary challenges, and fostering empathy within the faith community, making it a valuable resource for listeners seeking to deepen their understandings of faith, spiritu... more

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