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How Do They Afford That?

Michael Thompson and Canna Campbell
Financial Planning
Budgeting
Financial Literacy
Investing
Superannuation
Debt Management
Personal Finance
Financial Goals
Financial Education
Side Hustles
Investment Strategies
Cost Of Living
Mental Health
Savings
Debt
Financial Independence
Chatgpt
Credit Cards
Childcare
Mindful Spending

How Do They Afford That: the podcast that peeks into the financial lives of everyday Australians. Every week Canna Campbell - a financial planner for almost 20 years - and Fear & Greed's Michael Thompson share the simple hacks, habits and ideas that can make your money work harder for you.

New episode every Wednesday!

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You start with good intentions - a new budget, or a goal to save more - and before you know it you're drowning in new accounts, apps and budgeting systems. Join Canna Campbell - a financial planner for 20 years - and Fear & Greed's Michael Thompson a... more

Why do some people seem to get ahead easily, while others feel like they’re constantly on the back foot? Join Canna Campbell - a financial planner for 20 years - and Fear & Greed's Michael Thompson as they look at the role of financial luck... and ju... more

If you lost your job tomorrow, how long could you comfortably last? A week? A month? Six months? Join Canna Campbell - a financial planner for 20 years - and Fear & Greed's Michael Thompson as they walk through a guide to financial resilience - not f... more

Most people aren’t bad with money. They just approach it in a certain way. And once you understand how you approach money, things start to make sense. Join Canna Campbell - a financial planner for 20 years - and Fear & Greed's Michael Thompson as the... more

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Recent Guests

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Jason Jones
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Episode: Choosing between competing money goals
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Episode: You wouldn't judge an inheritance - so why judge the Bank of Mum & Dad?
Stephen Fenech
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Karen Eley
Financial advisor and wealth coach
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Sean Aylmer
Colleague from the Fear & Greed Business News Podcast
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Episode: Budget Battle | Car sharing vs meal boxes
Tim Bennett
Insurance expert and representative from Finder
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Tom Campbell
Canna's partner
Episode: Money & relationships: Canna + Tom pt 2

Hosts

Michael Thompson
Host of the show and writer for Fear & Greed; co-host on multiple formats.
Canna Campbell
Financial planner and founder of Sugarmama TV; frequent speaker on personal finance and financial education.

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 369 ratings
  • Relatable, no b.s, extremely useful info that helps you feel hopeful about money woes

    I always get something new and insightful that I had either not thought of or ‘forgotten’ when it comes to the principles of money. There seems to be a ‘stigma’ of shame around having financial struggles and likely drives denial ie more avoidance/spending = more $$ hardship. Makes no sense

    The roles of the hosts is a good contrast - Michael, ‘devils advocate’ represents the uninformed when it comes to everyday finances for everyday people. Canaṉ, the expert guide who’s straight talking common s... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tim N E.
    Australia3 months ago
  • Bullying in action

    I’ve given up on this podcast after the episode on financial goals in 2026 - I can’t listen to Canna’s bullying of Michael any longer. She has always been demeaning and unnecessarily argumentative with him, but in this episode she labels his thinking ‘pathetic’ and says she needs to ‘shut it down’. Is this how she speaks to her financial planning clients? God help them. I don’t need this toxic energy in my life - unsubscribed.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Darragh43
    Australia4 months ago
  • Someone save Michael

    Love the straight forward advice but the way Canna talks to Michael is hard to listen to and I’ve stopped listening because I can’t bare it.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Alvas99
    Australia4 months ago
  • Good information but lots of insults to the co-host

    The more I listen the more I am struggling with the constant disrespect towards Michael. Michael is constantly getting run down, insulted, told his savings hacks, suggestions and ideas are rubbish etc and it’s really hard to listen to. For those of us living in the real world through multiple financial crisis that don’t have the luxury of millions of dollars like Canna, I appreciate all of Michael’s real life, relatable, every day tips and tricks. It is far more relatable than, for example, tell... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Nic8449
    New Zealand6 months ago
  • Finance with a side of Humour

    “This show answers the questions we’re all secretly asking. I love how approachable and entertaining the hosts are while also making finance practical and easy to understand in its short and sharp format. It’s helped me rethink spending, saving, and how I talk about money at home.”

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SharnaMaree
    Australia8 months ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Finance with a side of Humour — approachable and practical finance content
Relatable, no b.s, extremely useful info that helps you feel hopeful about money woes
E.g., listeners appreciate practical, actionable money guidance and enjoy the host dynamic; some critique the banter and perceived hostility

Chart Rankings

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#38
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#200
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Spotify
#37
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Apple Podcasts
#2
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Apple Podcasts
#19
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#154
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Talking Points

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The kids' money blueprint
Q: What can I do to best set ourselves up for my two-year-old's future needs?
Start saving early for childhood needs, focus on financial education, and create a balance between short-term and long-term planning.
FIRE 2.0: more 'Financial Independence', less 'Retire Early'
Q: How do we build towards financial independence?
Start by building enough passive income to cover your living expenses, which can come from various sources.
FIRE 2.0: more 'Financial Independence', less 'Retire Early'
Q: Is there a particular brand of FIRE that you identify with?
Canna mentioned she identifies with a hybrid between Coast and Barista FIRE due to changes after having children.
How an abundance mindset can change your bank balance
Q: What are some red flags that you could be heading down the path of a scarcity mindset?
Common signs include phrases like 'I can't afford' or 'it's too hard', focusing on what's missing instead of what is possible.
How an abundance mindset can change your bank balance
Q: Does abundance thinking actually translate into more income or better financial opportunities?
Abundance can lead to better financial decisions and greater health, opportunities, and connections in the long run.

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This show blends practical personal-finance advice with relatable, everyday money stories from Australian hosts. Across episodes, topics range from debt management, budgeting routines, and saving strategies to more ambitious ideas like property investing, financial independence, and side hustles. The tone balances straightforward guidance with accessible humor, often featuring host contrasts that spark practical, real-world discussions. The format tends to mix actionable tips with personal anecdotes, making complex concepts feel achievable for a wide audience. A notable strength is the duo's emphasis on consistent habits, clear budgeting, and mindset shifts, which can be especially appealing to listeners seeking steady, long-term financial ... more

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