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Buyers and Builders

PrivateEquityGuy
Entrepreneurship
Private Equity
Acquisitions
Investing
Investment Strategies
Business Acquisition
Capitalpad
Mergers and Acquisitions
E-Commerce
Holding Companies
Search Funds
Self-Funded Search
Investment Banking
Small Business Acquisitions
Micro Acquisition
Exits
Investment
Saas
Real Estate
Business Growth

The Buyers and Builders podcast with PrivateEquityGuy is a place where you can find meaningful conversations about holding companies, buying and building businesses, entrepreneurship, investing, and more. Be sure to follow the podcast, so you never miss an episode!

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What does it actually take to build a world-class roll-up?

After spending a day at the RollUpEurope Serial Acquirers Summit with some of Europe’s most active serial acquirers, we break down the operating playbooks behind groups that have completed h... more

My guests today are Deiya and Dean Pernas, founders of Pernas Research, who have compounded capital at roughly 30% annually over the past nine years.

We explore their private equity-like approach to public markets: understanding businesses from the ... more

My guest today is Sam Allsopp, co-founder of Neal Roofing and Waterproofing, a home services company he started with Andrew Neal in 2020 and has since grown from zero to roughly $50 million in annual revenue—all organically.

What makes Sam’s story i... more

My guest today is Felix Jander, co-founder of Arsipa, a buy-and-build company focused on occupational health and safety.

Felix and Stefan began exploring the idea during COVID, studying roughly 60 niche industries before choosing a fragmented market... more

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Recent Guests

Luis Reyes
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Episode: I Met Roll-Up and Serial Acquisition Outliers. Here’s What I Learned
Deiya Pernas
Co-founder of Pernas Research, private markets investor
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Episode: A Private Equity Approach to Public Markets | Deiya and Dean Pernas Interview
Dean Pernas
Co-founder of Pernas Research, private markets investor
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Episode: A Private Equity Approach to Public Markets | Deiya and Dean Pernas Interview
Sam Allsopp
Co-founder and managing partner of Neal Roofing
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Episode: How to Scale a Services Business Like a Tech Company | Sam Allsopp Interview
Felix Jander
Co-founder of Arsipa
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Episode: The Roll-Up Playbook: From Zero to $100M Revenue | Felix Jander Interview
Justin Escajeda
Owner of 12 trade businesses around Pittsburgh; acquisition entrepreneur who built a diversified portfolio
Self-employed entrepreneur / Portfolio owner
Episode: The Anti-Private Equity Playbook: Buy Great Businesses and Don’t Change Them | Justin Escajeda
Gregory Geronemus
Managing Partner at FoodBridge Partners
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Eric Tan
CEO of Catcha Digital
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Episode: Inside a Public 14-Acquisition Compounder | Eric Tan and Patrick Grove
Chris Rolls
Founder of PieLAB Capital
PieLAB Capital
Episode: 13 Acquisitions and Why Permanent Capital Beats Private Equity | Chris Rolls of PieLab Capital

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Mick
Host of Buyers and Builders
PrivateEquityGuy
Host of Buyers and Builders

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 65 ratings
  • On of My Favorite Pods

    Mikk interviews some really interesting players in the M&A and PE space!

    Apple Podcasts
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    United States2 years ago
  • HoldCo distillery

    Wow - cracking content. Real examples. The kind of stuff you would ask your rich uncle if you had one. Keep up the great work.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Euro bound
    Australia3 years ago

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A Private Equity Approach to Public Markets | Deiya and Dean Pernas Interview
Q: How do you decide when to exit a private position if the thesis remains intact but market conditions change?
Exit decisions hinge on thesis breaks or if the price becomes too stretched relative to intrinsic value. Even with a favorable thesis, you avoid holding a company at sky-high valuations and weigh opportunity costs against other investments in the public space; updating priors with new information is essential.
A Private Equity Approach to Public Markets | Deiya and Dean Pernas Interview
Q: Could you give a specific example of a recent clear opportunity you identified, where the trajectory was underappreciated by the market?
Capstone Energy served as a prime example: a company emerging from a pre-pack bankruptcy, with debt relief and in-house IP, benefited from an energy demand surge driven by AI and aging infrastructure, and careful operational improvements (Six Sigma, cost cuts) unlocked margin expansion and a clear path to value as management executed on the plan.
A $6.5M Estimate in 23 Minutes: How AI Is Rewiring SMBs | David Flickinger Interview
Q: Can you walk us through the difference between asking ChatGPT a question versus having an AI system that lives inside the business?
Having an AI inside the business means the AI is connected to the company's systems and data (CRM, ERP, pricing, documents), providing context-rich, relevant responses. This contrasts with chatbots that work in isolation and often give confident but out-of-context answers unless fed a lot of ad-hoc data.
90+ Acquisitions, 30% Revenue CAGR, 35% Book Value Growth | Brett Kelly Interview
Q: Do you need to be a former accountant to join your firm or to fit your hiring model?
No; they prioritize values and a rigorous 17-step hiring process, and they discourage bringing preconceived habits from other firms, focusing instead on cultural fit and long-term potential.
90+ Acquisitions, 30% Revenue CAGR, 35% Book Value Growth | Brett Kelly Interview
Q: Why did you choose to go public, and how do you see public listing fitting your model?
He believed listing would attract talent, legitimize the model, and help build a global, high-integrity platform that could partner with top firms, despite being a private-equity-style growth strategy.

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What is Buyers and Builders about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The series centers on holding companies, acquisitions, and long-horizon value creation in entrepreneurship and investing. Episodes typically feature operators, private-equity professionals, and serial acquirers who share practical playbooks for sourcing deals, building scalable platforms, and integrating acquisitions with a long-term mindset. A standout trait is the emphasis on governance, talent, and culture as levers for durable growth, often complemented by tactical frameworks, real-world anecdotes, and occasional AI or technology-enabled strategies. Listeners get actionable insights on deal structure, integration, and portfolio management, with a clear bias toward operator-led value creation and next-phase growth within fragmented indus... more

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2. Deiya Pernas
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4. Sam Allsopp
5. Felix Jander
6. Justin Escajeda
7. Gregory Geronemus
8. Eric Tan

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