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Freedom of Thought by Humanists International

Humanise Live
Humanists International
Freedom Of Religion Or Belief
Freedom Of Thought Report
United Nations
Universal Periodic Review
Human Rights Council
United Kingdom
Humanist Canada
Blasphemy Laws
Populism
Non-Religious
World Humanist Congress
United States
Democracy
Far-Right Extremism
Non-Religious / Atheism
Special Rapporteurs
Reform Of the UN / Efficiency

Freedom of Thought from Humanists International is a global news and interview podcast examining the state of freedom of belief, expression, and human rights worldwide.

Hosted by Gary McLelland and Leon Langdon, the podcast draws on Humanists International’s flagship Freedom of Thought Report to bring together researchers, human rights defenders, activists, and policy experts to unpack the realit... more

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To mark the end of Season One, Gary and Leon are joined by Harry, Fundraising and Communications Officer at Humanists International, who hosts a special listener Q&A. Questions came in from around t... more

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Gary joins from Guatemala, where he has been meeting with Humanistas Guatemala and learning about the growing influence of American evangelical Christianity and the fascinating tradition of Catholic... more

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This week's guest is Dr. Lucy Potter, postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Sociological Studies at the University of York. Her landmark three-year study — Freedom of Religion or Belief for All: ... more

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This week Gary and Leon zoom out from day-to-day advocacy to reflect on the wider global climate shaping freedom of thought. From rising populism and religious nationalism to legal battles and cultu... more

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Gary and Leon open with updates from New York and the closing days of the UN Human Rights Council — including concerns about efficiency measures cutting special rapporteur reporting, and urgent deba... more

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Leon returns from the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva with a concerning update: so-called efficiency measures are cutting special rapporteur reporting with a blunt, one-size-fits-all approach that... more

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This week, Leon reports live from Geneva at the UN Human Rights Council, where a special session on children in armed conflict brings the human cost of global conflict into sharp focus. Against that... more

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Welcome to Freedom of Thought, the podcast by Humanists International.

This week the roles reverse. Instead of interviewing a guest, Leon Langdon becomes the policymaker explaining how Humanists In... more

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Recent Guests

Janalee Morris
Executive Director of Humanist Canada
Humanist Canada
Episode: Humanism Has Answers - Inside Humanist Canada with Janalee Morris
Lucy Potter
Post-doctoral fellow in the Department of Sociological Studies, University of York
University of York; Researcher on non-religious asylum claims
Episode: How the UK Asylum System Is Failing the Non-Religious with Dr. Lucy Potter
Javan Lev Poblador
Membership Manager, Humanists International
Humanists International
Episode: Growing Humanism Worldwide - Membership, Grants and Community with Javan Lev Poblador
Lizzi Collinge
Labour MP for Morcombe and Lunsdale; Chair of the UK Parliamentary Humanist Group
UK Parliament
Episode: How Humanist Legislators Turn Values Into Progress with Lizzi Collinge MP & Heidi Nordby Lunde
Heidi Nordby Lunde
Director of Politics and Public Relations at the Norwegian Humanist Association; former Norwegian Parliament member
Norwegian Humanist Association
Episode: How Humanist Legislators Turn Values Into Progress with Lizzi Collinge MP & Heidi Nordby Lunde
Andrew Copson
Chief executive of Humanist UK; former president of Humanists International (2015-2025)
Humanist UK; Humanists International
Episode: Humanist Values Are Ideal For This Moment with Andrew Copson
Maggie Ardiente
American humanist leader, non-profit executive and advocate at the intersection of secularism, social justice and civil rights
Humanists International (President as of 2025)
Episode: Humanism As Resistance with Maggie Ardiente
Mubarak Bala
President of the Humanist Association of Nigeria, internationally recognized human rights activist
Humanist Association of Nigeria, European-based activist
Episode: Inside The 2025 Freedom Of Thought Report & Blasphemy Laws with Mubarak Bala

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Gary McLelland
Host of Freedom of Thought; Senior figure within Humanists International
Leon Langdon
Co-host of the show; Host of Freedom of Thought; policy-oriented presenter

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How the UK Asylum System Is Failing the Non-Religious with Dr. Lucy Potter
Q: What are the core findings from the three years of research?
Two main issues: the system is poorly equipped to assess non-religious claims, and non-religious refugees face distinct barriers due to policy gaps that fail to define non-religious identities and the specific risks faced by apostates.
How the UK Asylum System Is Failing the Non-Religious with Dr. Lucy Potter
Q: What drew you to study non-religious asylum claims, and what sparked the research?
A case in 2018 where a Pakistani humanist was denied asylum because the Home Office could not name ancient philosophers associated with humanist beliefs; this highlighted a fundamental misunderstanding of non-religious identities and sparked a broader research project.
Inside The 2025 Freedom Of Thought Report & Blasphemy Laws with Mubarak Bala
Q: Leon asks about the key mechanisms behind the Freedom of Thought Report and how it informs advocacy.
Mubarak and the hosts discuss the report's data collection, in-country input from members, and its use in UN and international forums to advocate for universal human rights.
Inside The 2025 Freedom Of Thought Report & Blasphemy Laws with Mubarak Bala
Q: Gary asks Mubarak to recount his current situation and activities after his release.
Mubarak describes living in Europe, continuing advocacy for freedom of belief, and coordinating support for humanists and minorities while reconnecting with Nigerian and Sahelian communities.
Humanists International Answer Your Questions
Q: Are you concerned about the direction of the UN and how changes are shaping engagement at international institutions?
The UN's direction depends on member states and civil society pressure; engagement remains essential, with strategic questions directed at UN reform, funding, and influence through associations and campaigns.

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A global-focused, rights-driven show explores freedom of belief, expression, and civil society across countries and regions. Through interviews with researchers, activists, policymakers, and leaders from Humanists International and partner organizations, episodes unpack findings from the flagship Freedom of Thought Report and connect them to current international law, UN processes, national legislatures, and NGO advocacy. Notable throughlines include practical advocacy tools, funding and governance for member networks, responses to blasphemy and coercive religious norms, and cross-border collaboration at events like world congresses. The program tends to feature voices shaping policy and civil society action, with a clear emphasis on real-w... more

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