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Excess Returns

Excess Returns
Artificial Intelligence
Inflation
S&P 500
China
Investment Strategies
Options Trading
Federal Reserve
Volatility
Gold
Emerging Markets
Value Investing
Private Credit
Private Equity
Market Dynamics
Spacex
Labor Market
Investing
United States
Risk Management
Diversification

Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.

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Kris Abdelmessih
Weekend professor/analyst discussions on Moontower and Panoptica
Moontower; Panoptica
Episode: The Game Was Rigged in Their Favor. 28% Went Bust Anyway | Kris Abdelmessih on How to Size Bets
Eric Pachman
Founder/lead researcher at Data 4 The People, data journalist and analyst
Data 4 The People
Episode: We Asked the Data Journalist Who Rebuilt the Jobs Report What the Headline Number Hides
Jack Raines
Author of Young Money, investor who discusses SPACs and personal finance
Young Money / Author
Episode: He Lost $157,000 in 3 Minutes | Jack Raines on the Lesson Winning Never Taught Him
Jason Hsu
Founder and Chief Investment Officer at Rayliant Global Advisors; former co-founder of Research Affiliates
Rayliant Global Advisors
Episode: The AI Gap Is Closing | Jason Hsu on China, Momentum Crashes and the S&P’s Seven-Stock Bet
Jenny Johnson
CEO of Franklin Templeton Investments
Franklin Templeton Investments
Episode: Franklin Templeton CEO Jenny Johnson on AI, Private Markets, and the Hidden Risks in Index Funds
Bob Pozen
Former Fidelity president; former MFS chairman; MIT lecturer
Fidelity, MFS, MIT
Episode: We Asked Fidelity's Ex-President What Made Peter Lynch Great — and Where Private Credit Risk Hides
Mike Contopoulos
Head of multi-asset macro investing, macro models, multi-sector strategies at Janus Henderson
Janus Henderson Investors
Episode: Everyone Hates Bonds. Why Two Bond Managers Say You're Hating the Wrong Ones
John Kerschner
Global head of Securitized Products, CLO, ABS, CMBS, MBS at Janus Henderson
Janus Henderson Investors
Episode: Everyone Hates Bonds. Why Two Bond Managers Say You're Hating the Wrong Ones
Dan Niles
Founder of Niles Investment Management
Niles Investment Management
Episode: Bearish Into November. Room to Run After: Why Dan Niles Is Watching Hyperscaler Credit Default Swaps

Hosts

Matt Zeigler
Host of Excess Returns; focus on macro, portfolios, and market structure
Jack Forehand
Host; leads discussions on macro, value, and systematized investing
Justin Carbonneau
Co-host; oversees research-driven investment discussions

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 187 ratings
  • Pick guests more carefully

    I very much enjoy your podcasts, topics and guests. However I feel you crossed the line with Tony Greer and let him move your Podcast into the political sphere. I am going to guess that’s not what your typical listeners want to hear. Still on board and looking forward to new and unique topics - but please stay away from extreme thinkers who spew garbage to churn their niche asset class.

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    Triple Gee
    United States8 months ago
  • Tony Greer

    Tony Greer= one star, hard to take investment advice from such a blow hard.

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    maybdihjlz
    United States8 months ago
  • Tony Greer's appearance

    This was by far the poorest show I've heard from an otherwise useful podcast series. Tony Greer spouts data-free opinions about directions of markets and the economy without any challenge from the host. I don't mind a contrarian, but I expect to hear a well-reasoned set of opinions backing up contrarian views. In this case nothing but tripe. And generally, great investors don't focus on politics, as they try to make money no matter who is running the show, but politics was a massive basis for ... more

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    Davechem 1
    United States8 months ago
  • Dichotomy

    This show has some of the best guests (thoughtful/apolitical/hard research based) and some of the worst guests (narrative based/psuedo-research based/politically biased). Too bad, it could easily be so much better.

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    Davidjschultz
    United States8 months ago
  • 4th turning 🌎

    I’m so glad you guys have finished with Grant Williams now. Squee

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    United States9 months ago

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High-quality guests and host questions drive clear explanations of complex topics.

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We Asked Fidelity's Ex-President What Made Peter Lynch Great — and Where Private Credit Risk Hides
Q: What are your thoughts on quarterly reporting versus annual reporting and earnings guidance?
Quarterly reporting is valuable for capturing fast-moving economic and corporate changes, and it helps prevent insider trading; at the same time, earnings guidance should be used sparingly or replaced with annual guidance or ranges to avoid over-precision that can mislead investors.
We Asked Fidelity's Ex-President What Made Peter Lynch Great — and Where Private Credit Risk Hides
Q: What's the one thing you believe about investing that most peers would disagree with you on?
Bonds are not the default safe haven; in inflationary times they often underperform, and for many investors, especially those with long horizons and bequest goals, a heavy tilt toward stocks can yield greater wealth over decades, with the right allocation and timing strategy.
He Lost $157,000 in 3 Minutes | Jack Raines on the Lesson Winning Never Taught Him
Q: What was your level of awareness of what this was when you started trading?
He describes a mix of reading, trial-and-error, and learning through observing memes and deal flow, eventually pulling data from filings and market moves to gauge risk and opportunity.
He Lost $157,000 in 3 Minutes | Jack Raines on the Lesson Winning Never Taught Him
Q: Did you know what a SPAC was when you bought the first one?
He explains that familiarity with SPACs grew as he studied the mechanics and observed how prices and warrants reacted to deal announcements, recognizing the narrative-driven upside and the math-driven downside.
Franklin Templeton CEO Jenny Johnson on AI, Private Markets, and the Hidden Risks in Index Funds
Q: How should individual investors think about private markets within their portfolios?
Private markets should be delivered through financial advisors with careful consideration of liquidity and risk tolerance; private market exposure can be scaled via 15% within mutual funds or alternatives like interval funds, balanced with liquidity needs and goals.

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What is Excess Returns about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful, data-driven discussion on macroeconomics, investing strategies, and the evolving tech landscape, with frequent focus on AI capex, market regimes, and how capital allocation shapes asset prices. Episodes commonly explore how AI spending, policy, and monetary dynamics influence returns, along with practical portfolio construction ideas, risk management, and the pros/cons of active versus passive approaches. Notable twists include a strong emphasis on narrative frameworks, historical analogies, and a mix of veteran investors and macro researchers offering both cautionary and opportunistic takes. It's likely to appeal to listeners who enjoy rigorous analysis, quantitative context, and long-horizon investing perspectives that blend... more

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1. Kris Abdelmessih
2. Eric Pachman
3. Jack Raines
4. Jason Hsu
5. Jenny Johnson
6. Bob Pozen
7. Mike Contopoulos
8. John Kerschner

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