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News and investment research brought to you weekly covering major market trends and new research insights. With topics ranging from climate impact on investment portfolios, corporate actions, trending investment topics, and emerging sustainability issues, hosts Mike Disabato and Bentley Kaplan of MSCI ESG Research walk through the latest news and research that is top of mind for the week.

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The carbon markets could be made or broken in 2027. That’s when CORSIA, the Carbon Offsetting and Reduction Scheme for International Aviation, enters its mandatory phase. The scheme has been running since 2021, and its second voluntary phase ends thi... more

AI will disrupt companies across almost every sector, but not equally. We look at how much of a company’s workforce cost AI could automate, what makes a business model resilient to it, and whether markets have already priced in the difference.

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Climate adaptation is already a trillion-dollar market, and it's set to keep growing — but most companies aren't labelling it as one. We map where the real opportunity sits, how to tell durable demand from a good story, and why backing adaptation doe... more

AT&T filed many weather-related 8-Ks before it finally named hurricanes as a business risk in its annual report. It isn't an outlier: more than 80% of companies acknowledge physical climate risk is material, but fewer than a third lay out the details... more

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Recent Guests

Liz Houston
MSCI R&D professional and co-author of research on how markets have priced AI disruption
MSCI
Episode: AI Disruption: The Market’s Verdict
Matthew Lee
Serial guest on the show, researching adaptation economy through company reports
MSCI (via research)
Episode: BYO Umbrella: The Trillion-Dollar Adaptation Opportunity
Jasmina Buresch
Expert on physical climate risk and co-author of a research study on disclosure of climate risks
MSCI ESG Research
Episode: The Gap Between Climate Shock and Recognition
Jeremy Porter
Co-author mentioned in passing
MSCI ESG Research
Episode: The Gap Between Climate Shock and Recognition
John Ponder
Senior Corporate Governance Analyst at MSCI
MSCI
Episode: Riding Shotgun: Mega IPOs and Founder Control
Tanguy Sene
MSCI colleague; based in MSCI's Paris office
MSCI
Episode: Can AI Really Extract Emissions Data?
Eric Usher
Head of UNEP FI, UNEP Finance Initiative
UNEP Finance Initiative
Episode: Sustainable Finance Summit Pt. 2: Eric Usher and Brian Kernohan
Brian Kernahan
Chief Sustainability Officer
Manulife Investment Management
Episode: Sustainable Finance Summit Pt. 2: Eric Usher and Brian Kernohan
Dr. Sarah Kapnick
Ex-Chief Scientist of NOAA; Global Head of Climate Advisory at JPMorgan
JPMorgan; NOAA
Episode: Sustainable Finance Summit Pt.1: Sarah Kapnick and John E. Morton

Hosts

Mike Disabato
Host of Sustainability Now
Bentley Kaplan
Co-host, Host of Sustainability Now
Gabriela de la Serna
Host of Sustainability Now

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 511 ratings
  • Nir

    Great podcast. Only thing I would change- make it longer! There’s so much to cover 🌍

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Grindtoahalt
    Israel3 years ago
  • Great to help keep up with the fast evolving space of sustainability

    Recommend

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RParki
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Social Score of D for Intro Music Perforating my Ear Drums

    Great podcast, but do some EQ on the intro music please - bass and treble is way louder than the episode itself.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    The Bergus
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Great for investigating ESG data field

    Very well detailed podcast dedicated to specific topics with case studies. It helps to understand how and when devil is in details in the ESG data and scores.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    enriqwerty
    Italy4 years ago
  • Great information

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Ted
    4 years ago

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High-quality, research-driven episodes with practical takeaways for investors
Engaging and insightful on ESG data and market implications
Fresh, accessible explanations of complex frameworks make ESG approachable for newcomers
Occasional audio quality issues in guest segments are noted by a portion of listeners

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AI Disruption: The Market’s Verdict
Q: So what makes a difference? That's where the idea of AI resilience comes in. So I asked Liz, what an AI resealing company actually looks like.
Houston says resilience depends on characteristics such as physical assets, regulatory and licensing protections, network effects, and customer switching costs, which can help a company retain the value created by AI.
AI Disruption: The Market’s Verdict
Q: What does automation potential actually mean here? And how did Liz and her colleagues go about measuring it?
Houston explains that the researchers broke occupations into tasks, assessed which tasks AI could perform today, and used occupation-level pay estimates to calculate the share of a company's employee costs that could be automated.
Riding Shotgun: Mega IPOs and Founder Control
Q: Do multi-class structures actually impact performance post-IPO, and if so, how is that measured?
MSCI analyzed a dataset of US IPOs since 2011, comparing total shareholder returns to the MSCI USA index. They found that skewed (multi-class) companies generally underperformed the benchmark more than non-skewed ones, with deeper losses during downturns and a notable gap in upside potential, suggesting governance structure can materially influence performance.
Riding Shotgun: Mega IPOs and Founder Control
Q: What is Control Skew and why does it matter for investors?
Control Skew occurs when voting power is disproportionate to economic ownership, typically through multi-class share structures or voting mechanisms that keep founders or insiders in control. This can lead to governance that doesn't align with the financial risk investors take, potentially affecting capital allocation and long-term returns.
Can AI Really Extract Emissions Data?
Q: What should cash-strapped investors consider before using AI-collected emissions numbers in reporting?
He emphasizes understanding the differences in scope definitions, accounting bases, and whether the data truly reflects the entire company footprint versus parts of it, plus the need to document and own any judgments made.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Sustainability Now

What is Sustainability Now about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on ESG investing, climate risk, and sustainability trends shaping markets. Episodes typically feature senior researchers, climate scientists, biodiversity experts, and governance specialists from MSCI, WWF, Fidelity, and partner organizations, who translate complex data and frameworks into actionable insights for investors and corporate leaders. A standout pattern is the emphasis on practical risk frameworks (TCFD, TNFD, biodiversity data, transition risk) and real-world examples—from housing partnerships to nature finance—that connect macro climate policy to portfolio outcomes. The format often blends research findings with case studies and governance considerations, making it useful for listeners who want to understand ho... more

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