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EMDR Therapy
EMDR
Trauma
Ketamine
Artificial Intelligence
Psychotherapy
Online Therapy
Psychosis
Psychedelics
EMDR Asia
Grief
Intensives
Bilateral Stimulation IO
Pediatric EMDR
CBT
Covid-19
Dissociation
History Of Trauma Models
Play Therapy
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders (dsm-5)

With more than 60 years combined experience in EMDR therapy, co-founders of EMDR Professional Training, Curtis Rouanzoin, PhD, and Michelle Gottlieb, PsyD, address subjects for the EMDR therapy clinician in practice and for psychotherapists interested in becoming trained in EMDR therapy. EMDR Professional Training provides Basic and Advanced EMDR therapy training to mental health professionals inc... more

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What is an adaptation in EMDR therapy and when should it be used?  Or should you stick to the Standard Protocol without fail? In this episode Curt and Michelle discuss adaptations, attunement, and most of all, adherence to the Stand... more

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What is an adaptation in EMDR therapy and when should it be used?  Or should you stick to the Standard Protocol without fail? In this episode Curt and Michelle discuss adaptations, attunement, and most of all, adherence to the Stand... more

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Are the effects of EMDR therapy actually valid?  Are clients just saying they feel different as a result of EMDR therapy, or is there a real change?  In this episode, Curt and Michelle address the measures of validity for EMDR thera... more

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Are the effects of EMDR therapy actually valid?  Are clients just saying they feel different as a result of EMDR therapy, or is there a real change?  In this episode, Curt and Michelle address the measures of validity for EMDR thera... more

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Recent Guests

Chris Schamber
LCSW practicing in California with background in CBT and EMDR
LA County Department of Mental Health; Academy of CBT
Episode: EMDR Chat #43 What about CBT and EMDR Therapy?
Michelle Gottlieb
Co-host and guest presenter on EMDR Asia experiences
EMDR Professional Training
Episode: EMDR Chat #42 What about EMDR Therapy in Asia and Around the World?
Wendy Byrd
EMDR therapist and clinician discussing psychedelic-assisted therapy
Connected Heart Therapy / wendybyrd.com
Episode: EMDR Chat #41 What about Psychedelics and EMDR Therapy? Part 2
Holly Forman-Patel
Trainer and clinician specializing in EMDR with children
EMDR National Association (mentioned) / EMDR Professional Training
Episode: EMDR Chat #38 What about EMDR Therapy with kids?
Amy Ikerd
Clinician with 20+ years of practice, Midwest-based, facilitator for EMDR Professional Training
EMDR Professional Training (facilitator); Indianapolis, Indiana
Episode: EMDR Chat #37 What about Intensives in EMDR Therapy?
Mary Eason
Psychologist specializing in EMDR therapy and psychosis
Private practice in Fullerton
Episode: EMDR Chat #36 What about EMDR Therapy for Psychosis?
Lori Cao
Trainer for EMDR Professional Training; expert on EMDR therapy with couples
EMDR Professional Training
Episode: EMDR Chat #33 What about using EMDR Therapy with Couples?

Hosts

Curtis Rouanzoin
Host of EMDR Chat
Michelle Gottlieb
Co-host and guest presenter on EMDR Asia experiences

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 18 ratings
  • Glad

    So glad I found this podcast, it is educational and enjoyable learning.

    Please remember To include basic details in your explanations, for people that are newly trained; provide complete examples from beginning to end on how to use the protocols in each situation. Ie; psychotic disorders, or specific symptoms Or situations, especially those that are not always complex trauma.

    I do a lot of reading, but listening to specific cases, and how to handle them has been very helpful.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    vixckiel
    United States10 months ago
  • Great podcast

    Hi, Michelle and Curt! Your podcast does a fantastic job of reviewing important topics and expanding. Can you do an episode about bipolar disorder and EMDR, and another about sleep disorders?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kim F.S.
    United States2 years ago
  • Content is solid though has room to improve

    Short time of episodes makes easy bites for listeners though I think this might be part of the challenge hosts are having. Hosts are knowledgeable, experienced, and interesting. Improved communication between hosts to not speak over one another (more organization of when each is to speak or who is asking the next question) would be helpful. Even more importantly, must stop speaking over the guests! Perhaps this challenge comes from the shorter episode length and trying to manage that timeline, b... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    DanielHauff
    United States2 years ago
  • Also…What About

    Thank you for addressing the clinical topics that are prominent when working with survivors of trauma. I would love to see… What About Disordered Eating?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kim F.S.
    United States3 years ago
  • Great Podcasts

    Michelle and Curt: In the two parts addressing dissociation, you overviewed and commented on what I hoped! You have a way of making the information so accessible. Thank you for knowing what is going to be helpful. It feels like another way you have chosen to stay true to guiding us EMDR therapists.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kim F.S.
    United States4 years ago

Listeners Say

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The show is educational and enjoyable; hosts are knowledgeable and practical.
Would like more coverage on topics like disordered eating and trauma-focused approaches.
Short episode lengths are easy to consume but can miss depth; improve host-guest dialogue and listening.
Listeners want more case-based examples and detailed protocols.

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EMDR Chat #44: What about the impact of AI on our clients' lives?
Q: And I guess I'd like to start with, first of all, when you looked into this and you did this in-depth work, what were some of the biggest concerns that you found?
Wendy Byrd outlines top concerns around AI biases, the risk of chatbot-like advice in therapy, and the danger of AI lacking embodied human experience, urging clinicians to differentiate AI outputs from genuine clinical interaction.
EMDR Chat #38 What about EMDR Therapy with kids?
Q: What's a memorable success story with a child?
They recount a case where a child's nightmares were targeted over a few sessions; after treatment, the nightmares stopped and the child started laughing, illustrating rapid, meaningful change.
EMDR Chat #38 What about EMDR Therapy with kids?
Q: What modifications are most important when working with children compared to adults?
The guests describe breaking the process into small bite-sized pieces, using tangible visuals and toys, and involving caregivers to maintain safety and engagement during reprocessing.
EMDR Chat #38 What about EMDR Therapy with kids?
Q: So how did you begin to adapt EMDR, the standard protocol, to children?
Holly explains that adapting EMDR for kids starts with a strong foundation in play therapy and using developmentally appropriate, concrete tools to support standard protocol rather than abandoning it.
EMDR Chat #36 What about EMDR Therapy for Psychosis?
Q: Did that answer your question?
Absolutely. The hosts reiterate client-centered, individualized approaches and the value of training and consultation for clinicians working with psychosis.

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What is EMDR Chat about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on EMDR therapy practice, training, and integration with other modalities and emerging topics in mental health. Episodes repeatedly cover clinical workflows, safety, and ethics, with deep dives into topics like psychedelics, AI in therapy, pediatric adaptations, intensive treatment formats, and differential diagnosis in trauma. A notable strength is practical, clinician-facing guidance, including training resources, real-world case discussions, and clear cautions about maintaining fidelity to EMDR protocols. The format tends to feature experienced clinicians sharing actionable insights, occasional international perspectives, and opportunities for listeners to access discounts or training resources. Potential listeners will ... more

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4. Holly Forman-Patel
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