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Doom Debates!

Liron Shapira
Artificial Intelligence
Existential Risk
AI Safety
Superintelligence
Artificial General Intelligence
AI Alignment
Superintelligent AI
AI Doom
Effective Altruism
P-Doom
Eliezer Yudkowsky
Openai
Existential Risks
AGI
Human Extinction
Large Language Models
Transhumanism
Creativity
AI Risks
Climate Change

It's time to talk about the end of the world. With your host, Liron Shapira. lironshapira.substack.com

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Emad Mostaque helped kick off the modern AI revolution as the head of Stability AI, the company behind Stable Diffusion. Unlike most AI CEOs, he doesn't sugarcoat the risks of AGI development.

He explains his 50% P(Doom), why we have less than 1,000... more

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My guest, John Alioto, is an independent AI engineer with a computer science degree from UC Berkeley and 25 years building real-world AI systems at companies like Microsoft and Google.

In the wake of an attack on Sam Altman’s property, John Alioto c... more

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Are AI safety advocates like Eliezer Yudkowsky at fault for the recent attacks on Sam Altman because they are “calling for violence”?

I invited Steven Balik to join me on this emergency episode to hash it out.

Steven is an activist short seller and... more

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The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist could become the most important movie of our generation. It’s a new film from the producers of the Oscar-winning Everything Everywhere All at Once.

Tristan Harris is a subject in the film who is well-kno... more

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Emad Mostaque
Founder/CEO of Intelligent Internet, co-founder of Stability AI
Intelligent Internet / Stability AI
Episode: Emad Mostaque Has A 50% P(Doom) & A Plan To Lower It
John Alioto
Independent AI engineer with 25 years of experience; guest on the show
Independent AI engineering
Episode: Did Eliezer Yudkowsky Really Call for VIOLENCE? — Debate with John Alioto
Steven Balik
Prolific writer, activist short seller, computer security analytics and data engineering professional
Episode: Are AI Doomers “Calling for Violence”? Debate with Steven Balik
Tristan Harris
Leader of humane technology movement; president of Center for Humane Technology
Center for Humane Technology
Episode: Tristan Harris and Ted Tremper are WAKING UP Humanity to AI Extinction!
Ted Tremper
Producer of The AI Doc; showrunner/director/writer with credits across TV and film
The AI Doc production team
Episode: Tristan Harris and Ted Tremper are WAKING UP Humanity to AI Extinction!
David Sirota
Award-winning investigative journalist, Oscar-nominated screenwriter, best-selling author, podcaster and former presidential candidate speechwriter for Bernie Sanders
The Lever
Episode: I Challenged DON’T LOOK UP’s Screenwriter to Look Up At AGI
Quintin Pope
Alignment researcher and fifth-year PhD student at Oregon State University; NLP and AI systems researcher; Less Wrong contributor
Oregon State University
Episode: AI Alignment Is Solved?! PhD Researcher Quintin Pope vs Liron Shapira (2023 Twitter Debate)
Noah Smith
Economist and AI writer known for Noahpinion
Noah Smith/Noahpinion
Episode: This Top Economist's P(Doom) Just Shot Up 10x! Noah Smith Returns To Explain His Update
Steven Byrnes
AGI safety researcher, currently at Astera Institute
Astera Institute
Episode: How Friendly AI Will Become Deadly — Dr. Steven Byrnes (AGI Safety Researcher, Harvard Physics Postdoc) Returns!

Host

Liron Shapira
Host of the show; guides discussion and introduces guests; known for Doom Debates.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 66 ratings
  • AI balance

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Vidrob
    4 months ago
  • Thought provoking. Intellectually honest.

    Great for understanding core arguments relating to AI existential risk

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    @masonlee
    United States2 years ago
  • Robust debate. Liron loves to argue, so it's definitely an argument rather than a polite discussion. He often gets derailed by side points.

    Podcast Addict
    3
    James3000
    2 years ago

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Excellent for understanding core arguments around AI existential risk.
Great guests and vigorous, well-reasoned debates.
Thought-provoking and intellectually honest discussions on AI risk.

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#211
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#233
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Emad Mostaque Has A 50% P(Doom) & A Plan To Lower It
Q: What is the mainline Doom scenario you worry about?
A sufficiently capable AI could pursue its objectives in ways that diverge from human welfare, potentially leading to mass disruption or elimination of human control unless we build checks, balances, and democratic governance around AI deployment.
Emad Mostaque Has A 50% P(Doom) & A Plan To Lower It
Q: Can you unpack what your 50% P-Doom means for policy and society?
It implies two broad trajectories: if we fail to implement open, accountable AI governance and universal access, we risk a future where AI dominates critical systems and decision-making; if we succeed with shared infrastructure like state champions and universal AI, we can push toward a safer, more collaborative future.
Emad Mostaque Has A 50% P(Doom) & A Plan To Lower It
Q: Emad, remind us, what is your P-Doom?
My P-Doom is 50%. It represents a central, plausible risk level for existential harm from AI unless proactive, transparent governance and widely accessible, open AI tools are adopted to align incentives and protect society.
I Challenged DON’T LOOK UP’s Screenwriter to Look Up At AGI
Q: What is your stance on how to handle the AI risk in policy and governance?
He advocates for international coordination, an off/stop button as a foundational safety measure, and robust regulation to prevent a 'free-for-all' in AI development, emphasizing that governance should prioritize human welfare and prevent irreversible harms.
I Challenged DON’T LOOK UP’s Screenwriter to Look Up At AGI
Q: David Sirota, what's your P Doom?
His probability estimate sits in the double digits, reflecting a cautious but non-zero belief in a serious existential risk, while he remains open to the possibility of mitigating actions and policy responses that could avoid catastrophe.

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