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Welcome to "Divergent Dialogues," a podcast where your hosts, Caitlin and Teena—both Accredited Mental Health Social Workers and Neurodivergent-affirming therapists—draw upon their extensive professional expertise and lived experiences. Divergent Dialogues provides quality education from the heart about Neurodivergent life from a practice, research and lived experience lens. For more information a... more

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After 2.5 years and 51 episodes, we’re wrapping up Divergent Dialogues.

This final conversation reflects on how the podcast began, what it has meant to create this space, and why this ending feels right. We share our thoughts on growth, changing com... more

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In this episode, we’re joined by Sheldon Gay for a thoughtful conversation about Black neurodivergent experiences, giftedness, identity, and intersectionality.

Together, we explore how systems like education and mental health can misunderstand or ov... more

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This conversation forms part of a creative research contribution to Neurodiversity: Towards a Critical Turn in Neurodiversity Studies. It explores podcasting as a neurodivergent way of doing research — one that values voice, connection, and shared me... more

Caitlin and Teena are joined by Laetitia Andrac (CEO/co-founder of Understanding Zoe) for a grounded, hope-filled conversation about AI, ethics, and easing the invisible work carried by neurodivergent families.

Together, we explore how AI can suppor... more

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Sheldon Gay
Entrepreneur, speaker and host of the I Must Be Buggin podcast; leading advocate for gifted and neurodivergent people, especially in melanated and marginalized communities
Self-employed; I Must Be Buggin podcast
Episode: Episode #47 Curiosity Over Assumptions Conversations on Black Neurodivergent Experiences with Sheldon Gay
Laetitia Andrac
CEO and co-founder of Understanding Zoe, AI-powered neuroaffirming support platform
Understanding Zoe
Episode: Episode #46 Freeing Up Time for What Matters: Reducing the Hidden Load for Neurodivergent Families
Michael Coles
Autistic Advocate; Speaker; Host of The Deep Dive Podcast
The Deep Dive Podcast
Episode: Episode #45 Holding Space for Yourself and Your Kids with Michael Coles
Vera Shive
Senior Clinical Psychologist and Board Approved Supervisor; specializes in trauma healing with neurodivergent clients
Based in Sydney, Australia
Episode: Episode #44 Unmasking Healing: Navigating Trauma and Neurodivergence
Annie Kotowicz
Autistic author, author of What I Mean When I Say I'm Autistic
NeuroBeautiful/Author
Episode: Episode #43 Unmasking the Self: Internalised Ableism, Diagnosis, and Embracing Autism with Annie Kotowicz
Cammy Griffin
Organizer of the Neurodivergent Minds Conference
Neurodivergent Minds Conference
Episode: Episode #42 Neurodiversity Affirming Practice Research with Cammy Griffin
Margaret Price
Lawyer, autism advocate, Professor and former divorce attorney
Dr. Margaret Price (Pegi) – Professor and Academic Program Director, MPA
Episode: Episode #41 Navigating Divorce & Neurodivergent Parenting Plans with Dr. Margaret Pegi Price
Gordon Smith
Licensed clinical mental health counselor, coach, and creative
giftedandgrowing.org
Episode: Episode #40 Mirroring & Meaning: Embracing Giftedness Through Connection, Safety, and Self with Gordon Smith
Jessica Fox
Autistic doctoral researcher
Queensland University of Technology
Episode: Episode #39 Autistic Women’s Experiences of Domestic and Sexual Violence with Jessica Fox

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Caitlin Hughes
Host of the show, Accredited Mental Health Social Worker
Teena Mogler
Co-host and co-creator of Divergent Dialogues, Neurodivergent-affirming therapist

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 15 ratings
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    This podcast makes me feel seen as a multiply neurodivergent woman.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MeghanDancer
    United States2 years ago

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Listeners feel seen and understood in their neurodivergent experiences.
Discussions are grounded in empathy and professional insight.
Content blends lived experience with practical, actionable guidance.

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Episode #39 Autistic Women’s Experiences of Domestic and Sexual Violence with Jessica Fox
Q: What should practitioners keep in mind when working with autistic survivors of trauma?
Approach should be humble and collaborative, recognizing the complexity of each person's trauma and autism; avoid universalizing statements, and tailor explanations and supports to the individual's context, using lived experience to bridge understanding.
Episode #39 Autistic Women’s Experiences of Domestic and Sexual Violence with Jessica Fox
Q: Can you tell us more about the Whisper Network and how autistic women are affected by it?
The Whisper Network is an informal system where women warn each other about unsafe people; autistic women often get left out, which makes it harder for them to receive those protective tips and support, increasing vulnerability in social and professional circles.
Episode #45 Holding Space for Yourself and Your Kids with Michael Coles
Q: What does neurodivergent affirming parenting look like in your home on a day-to-day basis?
They describe balancing needs, using visual supports, predictable routines, and avoiding over-distraction while ensuring children feel understood and respected.
Episode #46 Freeing Up Time for What Matters: Reducing the Hidden Load for Neurodivergent Families
Q: What ethical principles or design commitments are non-negotiable when creating AI tools for neurodivergent children and their families?
Prioritize data privacy and security, embed lived experience, ensure AI acts as an extension rather than a replacement for human care, and maintain human-centered communication that honors neurodivergent perspectives.
Episode #46 Freeing Up Time for What Matters: Reducing the Hidden Load for Neurodivergent Families
Q: From your perspective, what does and doesn't work when AI is introduced into neurodivergent support systems, and where are the biggest risks of harm if it's not neuroaffirming?
AI can offer significant benefits when anchored in neuroaffirming design and lived experience, but risks arise if it perpetuates bias, replaces human connection, or mishandles sensitive data; careful governance, clear use cases, and ongoing evaluation are essential.

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What is Divergent Dialogues about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two hosts who are Accredited Mental Health Social Workers and neurodivergent-affirming therapists guide conversations at the intersection of practice, research, and lived experience in neurodivergent life. Episodes span autism, giftedness, trauma, parenting, school and legal systems, and the role of technology and AI in support, often featuring clinicians, researchers, and advocates who bring practical guidance and personal perspective. Notable threads include trauma-informed care, neurodiversity-affirming practice, caregiver burnout and daily life planning, and efforts to make resources and communities accessible and inclusive. The show is likely to appeal to professionals, caregivers, and neurodivergent individuals seeking grounded, empat... more

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2. Laetitia Andrac
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4. Vera Shive
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7. Margaret Price
8. Gordon Smith

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