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Jonah Babins from Discourse in Magic tackles magic’s hardest issues, theories, philosophies, discussion, and more to help you explore. He jumps into all sorts of magic, and resources, and most importantly actionable tips to help better the art and become a killer performer!

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In this solo episode, Jonah Babins reports back from the annual Mastermind Summit. Every year, Jonah takes the mastermind group to an epic, tropical destination to map out business growth, and this year they returned to a beautiful resort in Mexico. ... more

In this special episode, Jonah Babins shares a “meaty” excerpt from his recent business lecture delivered to the Chicago Magic Round Table. Recorded while Jonah was in the midst of a residency at the Chicago Magic Lounge (654 Club), this session skip... more

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This week, Discourse in Magic looks a little different. Instead of Jonah interviewing a guest, we’re sharing an episode where the tables were turned. Jonah recently sat down with Josh Norbido and Nick Kay—better known as The Magic Guys—on their popul... more

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In this episode, Jonah Babins breaks down a critical mistake magicians make when a lead finally lands in their inbox: treating the sales call like a logistics checklist. While knowing the venue and guest count is important, a truly professional sales... more

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Recent Guests

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Leah Orleans
Expert in branding and touring performer
Episode: Leah Orleans: Pushing Boundaries in Magic
Jonathan Levit
A magician and entertainer with a background in acting and TV hosting.
Episode: Magic and Mystery with Jonathan Levit
Rachel Wax
Talented magician and performer based in New York City
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Matt Pritchard
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Taylor Hughes
An amazing magician and storyteller passionate about storytelling through magic.
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Jonah Babins
Host of Discourse in Magic; balances touring, masterminds, and scalable marketing systems.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 174 ratings
  • Perhaps the best magician’s podcast

    Between Jonah’s guests and his show “business” advice, this is easily my favorite podcast for magicians and the best in my opinion. I’ve been listening for years.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    iPhoneHarris
    United States3 years ago
  • Excellent!

    Set aside some time and listen to the entire catalogue (with a notebook and pen). Thank me later.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    craigy_macp
    Canada4 years ago
  • Awesome hosts !

    Articulate, humorous, engaging. Highly recommend , even for non-magicians like myself !

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    zmednick
    Canada5 years ago
  • Phenomenal Podcast for Magicians

    I met Jonah a couple years ago while I was still in high school. He was a staff member of this leadership conference I attended, and probably the first magician I met in real life! He inspired me greatly with his wit, wisdom, and how personable he was. Fast forward to today, I’m still gleaning nuggets of wisdom from his fantastic podcast and using it to improve my craft. Highly recommended podcast for anyone who loves performing magic.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    matthew.ao
    Canada6 years ago
  • Best Resource in Magic!

    This is the first podcast review I have written, but I feel compelled… As a lover of magic and listener to the Discourse in Magic podcast for over one year, I have to say, in my personal opinion, this this the #1 resource we have in all of Magic. Really… paid/unpaid… it doesn’t matter. The amount of content and richness of each episode is unparalleled compared to everything else. Maybe, I just love Jonah’s interview style, but every single episode leaves you with something (or many things) to i... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Farleybt
    United States6 years ago

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Reviews highlight practical frameworks and real-world value for business-minded performers.
Many commend the host's preparation and thoughtful questions.
Audience notes high regard for interview quality and guest variety.
Listeners praise depth and actionable advice for magicians.

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Jamie Allan: Building Big Magic With Authenticity
Q: What advice do you have for not young magicians, but young illusionists who are trying to do a little more of this?
They don't have to be massive to play big. Some of the biggest tricks I've bought have been the least effective in evoking reactions. It's important to present illusions with authenticity.
The Art and Hustle of Modern Magic with Xavier Mortimer
Q: What was your transition from performing in Vegas to focusing on social media?
He recognized that social media was the future of magic and focused on creating engaging content.
The Art and Hustle of Modern Magic with Xavier Mortimer
Q: What brings you to America?
Xavier was called by Cirque du Soleil after performing well on France's Got Talent.
Jonah Babins: Magic’s Business Whisperer
Q: What does the coaching program entail?
He outlines the structure of his coaching program, focusing on leads, sales, and systems to help magicians grow their business effectively.
Jonah Babins: Magic’s Business Whisperer
Q: What is The Mastermind and how did you get into it?
Jonah explains that The Mastermind is a community helping magicians scale their business from lower to higher revenue levels and that it started during the pandemic when he noted a demand for guidance among magicians.

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A show focused on magic as a craft and business, featuring in-depth conversations with top magicians and practitioners about performance, marketing, pricing, and building sustainable careers. Episodes emphasize practical strategies for lead generation, client education, showcraft, and authentic storytelling, often blending actionable business frameworks with deep dives into the artistry of magic. A standout aspect is the seasoned host's emphasis on evidence-based marketing (video proof, testimonials) and scalable, repeatable systems for growth, which makes it particularly useful for magicians aiming to professionalize their practice.

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Recent guests on Discourse in Magic include:

1. Jamie Allan
2. Xavier Mortimer
3. Luke Oseland
4. Bill Herz
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6. Jonathan Levit
7. Rachel Wax
8. Matt Pritchard

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