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Jonah Babins from Discourse in Magic tackles magic’s hardest issues, theories, philosophies, discussion, and more to help you explore. He jumps into all sorts of magic, and resources, and most importantly actionable tips to help better the art and become a killer performer!

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In this solo episode, Jonah Babins pulls back the curtain on the eight-month hiatus of Discourse in Magic. Since August 2025, the podcast feed has been quiet, leading many listeners to reach out and check-in. Today, Jonah is back to explain his disap... more

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In this episode of Discourse in Magic, Jonah Babins dives into a powerful concept from his mastermind sessions: Weaponizing Your Show. The idea is simple—make your show book you more shows. Beyond just delivering a strong performance, Jonah shares fi... more

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In this solo episode of Discourse in Magic, Jonah Babins shares his raw and honest reflections on FISM 2025. From mind-blowing performances to marathon-length competitions, Jonah walks through the highs and lows of the world’s biggest and most presti... more

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In this episode of Discourse in Magic, Jonah sits down with Jamie Allan, a pioneering illusionist and producer known for blending large-scale magic with theatrical storytelling. From growing up in a showbiz family in the UK to launching Broadway-scal... more

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Jamie Allan
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Episode: Jamie Allan: Building Big Magic With Authenticity
Xavier Mortimer
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Luke Oseland
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Bill Herz
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Leah Orleans
Expert in branding and touring performer
Episode: Leah Orleans: Pushing Boundaries in Magic
Jonathan Levit
A magician and entertainer with a background in acting and TV hosting.
Episode: Magic and Mystery with Jonathan Levit
Rachel Wax
Talented magician and performer based in New York City
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Matt Pritchard
Known as the Science Magician, he creates and performs educational magic shows.
Episode: The Art and Science of Illusions with Matt Pritchard
Taylor Hughes
An amazing magician and storyteller passionate about storytelling through magic.
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Host

Jonah Babins
Host of Discourse in Magic; focuses on magic's hardest issues, theories, and actionable tips for performers.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 174 ratings
  • Perhaps the best magician’s podcast

    Between Jonah’s guests and his show “business” advice, this is easily my favorite podcast for magicians and the best in my opinion. I’ve been listening for years.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    iPhoneHarris
    United States3 years ago
  • Excellent!

    Set aside some time and listen to the entire catalogue (with a notebook and pen). Thank me later.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    craigy_macp
    Canada4 years ago
  • Awesome hosts !

    Articulate, humorous, engaging. Highly recommend , even for non-magicians like myself !

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    zmednick
    Canada5 years ago
  • Phenomenal Podcast for Magicians

    I met Jonah a couple years ago while I was still in high school. He was a staff member of this leadership conference I attended, and probably the first magician I met in real life! He inspired me greatly with his wit, wisdom, and how personable he was. Fast forward to today, I’m still gleaning nuggets of wisdom from his fantastic podcast and using it to improve my craft. Highly recommended podcast for anyone who loves performing magic.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    matthew.ao
    Canada5 years ago
  • Best Resource in Magic!

    This is the first podcast review I have written, but I feel compelled… As a lover of magic and listener to the Discourse in Magic podcast for over one year, I have to say, in my personal opinion, this this the #1 resource we have in all of Magic. Really… paid/unpaid… it doesn’t matter. The amount of content and richness of each episode is unparalleled compared to everything else. Maybe, I just love Jonah’s interview style, but every single episode leaves you with something (or many things) to i... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Farleybt
    United States5 years ago

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Guests are consistently engaging, with many comments highlighting valuable takeaways for performers.
Overall, listeners praise the host's preparation and questions, noting depth and practicality.
Some listeners offer constructive feedback on pacing or interview flow, but the overall sentiment is highly positive.
The show is considered a top resource in magic for both performers and industry professionals.

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Jamie Allan: Building Big Magic With Authenticity
Q: What advice do you have for not young magicians, but young illusionists who are trying to do a little more of this?
They don't have to be massive to play big. Some of the biggest tricks I've bought have been the least effective in evoking reactions. It's important to present illusions with authenticity.
The Art and Hustle of Modern Magic with Xavier Mortimer
Q: What was your transition from performing in Vegas to focusing on social media?
He recognized that social media was the future of magic and focused on creating engaging content.
The Art and Hustle of Modern Magic with Xavier Mortimer
Q: What brings you to America?
Xavier was called by Cirque du Soleil after performing well on France's Got Talent.
Jonah Babins: Magic’s Business Whisperer
Q: What does the coaching program entail?
He outlines the structure of his coaching program, focusing on leads, sales, and systems to help magicians grow their business effectively.
Jonah Babins: Magic’s Business Whisperer
Q: What is The Mastermind and how did you get into it?
Jonah explains that The Mastermind is a community helping magicians scale their business from lower to higher revenue levels and that it started during the pandemic when he noted a demand for guidance among magicians.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Discourse in Magic

What is Discourse in Magic about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A deep dive into magic as both an art and a business, with a focus on practical strategies for performers, show production, branding, and audience engagement. Episodes frequently cover how to maximize bookings, craft compelling stage presence, navigate conventions and festivals, and leverage storytelling and marketing to grow a magic career. Unique angles include creator-centric discussions, behind-the-scenes looks at production and touring, and actionable tips that listeners can apply to expand opportunities, grow their audience, and monetize their craft. The host's interviewing style is often described as insightful, well-prepared, and conversation-driven, with an emphasis on real-world lessons from high-profile guests across magic, enter... more

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1. Jamie Allan
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