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Caro & Katie discuss your questions about:

* Whether the “financial independence, retire early” movement is an effective way to Cordyceps-bug (visual below) cap... more

A quick heads-up: Around 1:34:00, we discuss postpartum psychosis, depression, filicide, and the Lindsay Clancy trial (no graphic descriptions). If that’s not something you’re up for today, take care and skip ahead to 1:40:00.

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The Democratic Party was facing an identity crisis when Donald Trump began his second term in January 2025. Just two months later, Democratic media Thinkboiz Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson published Abundance.

Their theory of the case: We could “solv... more

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Ezra Klein
Co-author of Abundance, NYT opinion writer
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Episode: How "Abundance" Lost the Left
Derek Thompson
Co-author of Abundance, The Atlantic
The Atlantic
Episode: How "Abundance" Lost the Left
Freya India
Writer and creator of the Substack Girls; author of the book being discussed.
Substack/Girls
Episode: Gen Z Women's New "Anti-Woke Voice"
Caroline Burke
Author of Yesteryear, novelist
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Episode: The Caro Episode
Erika Kirk
Widow of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and CEO of Turning Point USA
Turning Point USA
Episode: BONUS: Caro & Katie React to the Erika Kirk CBS Town Hall
Barry Weiss
A figure known for her commentary on societal issues and a narrator for various media discussions.
Episode: MAHA Moms & the Politics of “Wellness”
Isabel Brown
Content creator and Turning Point USA influencer
Turning Point USA
Episode: How "Reactionary Feminism" Infiltrated the Mainstream

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Katie
Co-host and primary moderator; drives discussion and analysis.
Caro
Co-host; guides conversations and contributes historical/critical context.

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 4.2k ratings
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    Someone name dropped this podcast in an Instagram comment, and I can’t believe it had never been suggested for me given all my crossover subscribes. This one checks all the boxes: well-researched, nuanced discussion, thoughtful critiques on capitalism, and two female voices in a male dominated industry. So much more. Can’t say how many times I have repeated “let women be terrible/scam people/do crime” Would buy that merch for everyone in my life. Take all my money. I subscribed so fast to this p... more

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    Notavegetarian
    United States9 days ago
  • Thank you!

    Love this podcast, found it through an instagram post about the beauty industry. Also love that you continually reference two other podcasts that I love: Maintenance Phase and If Books Could Kill. The cynicism underlying everything you talk about is cut (only slightly) by the chemistry between you two.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ms. 5thTeacher
    United States10 days ago
  • True Feminists

    Love it !!!!

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    lenageoras
    United States14 days ago
  • Love

    These two are so smart and so funny. I love this podcast 💓

    Apple Podcasts
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    Ssseann
    United States15 days ago
  • Diabolical Fun

    Well researched information presented in an easily accessible way. Presented by two frequently high and horny, cool aunt types (complimentary)

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    United Kingdom15 days ago

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Fans highlight the show's humor and chemistry as a major draw, alongside rigorous cultural critique.

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Q&A: Creative Process, Conspiracy Theories, Careers Under Capitalism, & the Cop in Your Head
Q: Would life be different if you didn't have constant listener feedback?
They debate how feedback shapes topic choice and presentation, with Katie arguing that the instinct to explore and question is not largely altered by audience response, while Caroline contends that the emotional through-line and ending of a piece can be influenced by how audiences react and what they emphasize.
Q&A: Creative Process, Conspiracy Theories, Careers Under Capitalism, & the Cop in Your Head
Q: What conspiracy theory that you believe in?
They itemize several conspiratorial ideas, ranging from government doubt about aliens to skepticism around Epstein narratives, but balance is kept by noting that they don't treat these beliefs as verified facts and acknowledge the complexity and potential for misinformation.
The Caro Episode
Q: How do you approach the tension between your public persona and the book's themes?
Caroline argues for separating art from the artist as a default stance, noting that readers bring their own interpretations and that the book's political and social commentary can stand apart from who she is as a person.
The Caro Episode
Q: How did the publishing journey for Yesteryear unfold, especially the auction and foreign rights?
She describes a rapid market reaction after the first pages convinced her agent it would sell, followed by a multi-country auction and decision to turn down an initial preempt offer to pursue potentially higher returns, with a strong emphasis on choosing the right agent and timing.
The Caro Episode
Q: What gives you the right to write Natalie's story the way you did?
Caroline explains that Natalie's voice emerged through a long process of finding what the character needed to say, emphasizing that fiction can explore complex truths about power, gender, and ambition without obligating the author to mirror personal beliefs.

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